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    20 thousand. trillion tons......

    Just heard on the discovery channel that everyday in Alaska, 20 thousand trillion tons of ice move across Alaska. That number is hard to understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by montanaskier View Post
    That number is hard to understand.
    It's just 20 quadrillion...what's so hard about that?

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    ohhhhhhh....like my bank account.....got it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizarro-Squatch View Post
    It's just 20 quadrillion...what's so hard about that?
    Hmmm... Would be fun to see that number written out;

    20,000,000,000,000 tons ? That is a great weight!!!

    or 40,000,000,000,000,000 pounds? Wow, a lot of zeros... a very GW of ice moving across Alaska.
    If some of the best times of my life were skiing the UP in -40 wind chill with nothing but jeans, cotton long johns and a wine flask to keep warm while sleeping in the back of my dad's van... does that make me old school?

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    Quote Originally Posted by timvwcom View Post
    Hmmm... Would be fun to see that number written out;

    20,000,000,000,000 tons ? That is a great weight!!!

    or 40,000,000,000,000,000 pounds? Wow, a lot of zeros... a very GW of ice moving across Alaska.
    You fucked up I think, 20,000 low.

    20,000,000,000,000,000 is the number I believe. A lot of ice

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    Quote Originally Posted by filthyfrenchbum View Post
    You fucked up I think, 20,000 low.

    20,000,000,000,000,000 is the number I believe. A lot of ice
    20(quad),000(tri),000(bil),000(mil),000(thou),000. ..

    You is right!!! Thanks... Buy hey, I was only 1,000 times low (000).

    so would be this in pounds;
    40,000,000,000,000,000,000... or 40 quintillion pounds? Eh?

    WTF??? Just checked at websters.com...

    quin·til·lion /kwɪnˈtɪlyən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kwin-til-yuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, plural -lions, (as after a numeral) -lion, adjective
    –noun
    1. a cardinal number represented in the U.S. by 1 followed by 18 zeros, and in Great Britain by 1 followed by 30 zeros.
    –adjective
    2. amounting to one quintillion in number.
    I know they've got money and weight messed up there... but what gives them the right to have a different counting system???
    If some of the best times of my life were skiing the UP in -40 wind chill with nothing but jeans, cotton long johns and a wine flask to keep warm while sleeping in the back of my dad's van... does that make me old school?

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    Quote Originally Posted by filthyfrenchbum View Post
    You fucked up I think, 20,000 low.

    20,000,000,000,000,000 is the number I believe. A lot of ice
    this is how we lose space shuttles.
    40,000,000,000,000,000,000 lbs
    20,000 trillion tons = 1 shit ton
    let your tracks be lost in the dark and snow

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    Quote Originally Posted by gorms View Post
    this is how we lose space shuttles.
    40,000,000,000,000,000,000 lbs
    20,000 trillion tons = 1 shit ton
    You had to go and say it? FYI I didn't lose my space shuttle... I just can't find it right now!!!
    If some of the best times of my life were skiing the UP in -40 wind chill with nothing but jeans, cotton long johns and a wine flask to keep warm while sleeping in the back of my dad's van... does that make me old school?

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    1 ft^3 of ice = ~65 lbs
    1 cy of ice = ~1755 lbs
    1 sqmi = ~30 million sqyd = ~ 30 million tons per 3 feet thick
    Alaska only has 570,374 sqmi of area

    Lets say it's 3000 feet thick so
    1 sqmi @ 3000' = 30 billion tons ice

    20,000,000,000,000,000
    -----------------------
    30,000,000,000

    equals ~670,000 Square miles of ice, 3000 feet deep. And that would cover all of Alaska and a good part of BC.

    I think you need to get your ears cleaned.
    I've concluded that DJSapp was never DJSapp, and Not DJSapp is also not DJSapp, so that means he's telling the truth now and he was lying before.

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    If you're going to get all technical on it, I'd suggest that the ice can probably cover the lakes and the bays that make up the remaining 86k square miles of what is technically Alaska. That leaves only 3k or so square miles to ice for Canada and I suspect most of that would go to the Yukon with the longest border with AK.

    Of course, we're both making lots of assumptions which only reinforces the fact that if your calculations are correct he heard wrong.
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    I get 7,357,962 square miles
    [40,000,000,000,000,000,000/(5280*5280*3000*65)]


    --maybe he could of heard wrong....but it was cool to think about that much ice moving

    math is tough at this hour though--I hope it is right
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    Quote Originally Posted by gorms View Post
    this is how we lose space shuttles.
    40,000,000,000,000,000,000 lbs
    20,000 trillion tons = 1 shit ton
    Thank you.
    I know I understand now.
    1 lost shuttle = a shit ton of trouble.

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    always possible i heard it wrong, but the wife and I both heard that #(does not mean it is right). It was on Fearless Planet on the Disc. Channel. A LOT of ice regardless.
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    I saw that last night too. Dont know what the number was 2 or 20 or whatever, but it was definitely x thousand trillion tons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gorms View Post
    I get 7,357,962 square miles
    [40,000,000,000,000,000,000/(5280*5280*3000*65)]


    --maybe he could of heard wrong....but it was cool to think about that much ice moving

    math is tough at this hour though--I hope it is right
    Try again with your math this morning, your answer is dimensionless

    [40e18 lbs/(5280ft*5280ft*3000ft*65lb/ft^3)] = 7,357,000 nothings
    I've concluded that DJSapp was never DJSapp, and Not DJSapp is also not DJSapp, so that means he's telling the truth now and he was lying before.

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    Ah, metric system...
    1 ton = 1000 kgs = 1000 liters = 1 cubic meter.

    That's still a shitload of ice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJSapp
    [40e18 lbs/(5280ft*5280ft*3000ft*65lb/ft^3)] = 7,357,000 nothings
    Except it is [40e18lbs/(5280ft/mile*5280ft/mile*3000ft*65lb/ft^3)] = 7,357,000 miles^2....right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gorms View Post
    Except it is [40e18lbs/(5280ft/mile*5280ft/mile*3000ft*65lb/ft^3)] = 7,357,000 miles^2....right?

    Where's the treadmill in that pic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by montanaskier View Post
    Just heard on the discovery channel that everyday in Alaska, 20 thousand trillion tons of ice move across Alaska.

    That only happens when AKPM jumps into the sea.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gorms View Post
    Except it is [40e18lbs/(5280ft/mile*5280ft/mile*3000ft*65lb/ft^3)] = 7,357,000 miles^2....right?

    Quote Originally Posted by cantunamunch View Post
    Where's the treadmill in that pic?
    What the hell did you do to my shuttle???
    If some of the best times of my life were skiing the UP in -40 wind chill with nothing but jeans, cotton long johns and a wine flask to keep warm while sleeping in the back of my dad's van... does that make me old school?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gorms View Post
    Except it is [40e18lbs/(5280ft/mile*5280ft/mile*3000ft*65lb/ft^3)] = 7,357,000 miles^2....right?

    edit: I'm a moron

    Last edited by DJSapp; 11-29-2007 at 12:46 PM.
    I've concluded that DJSapp was never DJSapp, and Not DJSapp is also not DJSapp, so that means he's telling the truth now and he was lying before.

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    Ahh unit conversions --if this isn't right I have a lot of work to recheck

    lb/(ft/mi*ft/mi*ft*lb/ft^3 )-->lb/(lb/mi^2)
    lb/(lb/mi^2) = lb * mi^2/lb = mi^2
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    Oops, sorry gorm, I'm f'd up, our numbers do agree within rounding.

    Quote Originally Posted by djsapp
    1 sqmi = ~30 million sqyd = ~ 30 million tons per 3 feet thick
    BZZT!!!

    1 sqmi = ~ 3 million sqyd, therefore 6.7 million sqmi, 3000 ft thick with a bunch of rounding done by me.

    Fun fact: the surface of the earth is 197,000,000 sqmi.

    The 20,000 trillion number may have been the amount of ice on the planet, as far as alaska, I don't buy it.
    I've concluded that DJSapp was never DJSapp, and Not DJSapp is also not DJSapp, so that means he's telling the truth now and he was lying before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philippeR View Post
    Ah, metric system...
    1 ton = 1000 kgs = 1000 liters = 1 cubic meter.

    That's still a shitload of ice.
    It's always amusing watching Americans and Brits try to figure out big numbers and measurements.

    American: "So, we've concluded that we are 100 quintrillion dollars in debt."

    Britmerican: "That jibes with our data: 100 gillintons, give or take a wick-be-tralling or two."

    American: "Let's move on to the weight of that big rock over there."

    Britmerican: "The one near the lorry?"

    American: "His name is Laurie? How tall do you think that guy is, btw?"

    Britmerican: "I'd say the rock weighs about 10 stone, a guilder, two ricklebrakes, and a half-bushel of acorns. And I'd guess Mr. Laurie to be 1 rod, seven leagues tall...maybe a rod, seven leagues, and a grain."

    American: "I figure the rock at 16 cubits minus a half-ricklebrake. Laurie at three furlongs minus a dram."

    Britamerican: "Could be. Care for a lemon squash?"

    American: "Boy howdy, do I! It'll go great with these deep-fried cheesecakeburgers."
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