You fascist liberal commies

[Rush baby]

Fear and Loathing! Coolest movie ever!

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Fear and Loathing! Coolest movie ever!

[Squirrel99]

1. Have you forgotten that there were many Democrats who supported the Iraq invasion?
2. Could it be possible that there are other terrorist organizations affiliated with Al Queda residing in Iraq?
3. Is it not a good thing that there have been NO attacks in the U.S. Since 2001?
4. Is it possible that the only reason most people in America think the war is unjustified is because of the relentless negative, biased, propaganded spewed by the liberal media and holywood kooks?

yawn. I don't even know where to start.

what the neocons need to understand is that it IS American to be open to different points of view. enough of this "Liberals are commies" or "anti-Americans" - the only thing the Right knows how to do is to smear people and drive wedges among the population in an attempt polarize the country. Nobody on either side wants our country attacked by terrorists so get over it.

first off, there are places we can still agree. As for taxes, a flat percentage tax on income across the board would make sense to me. But we need to figure out how to address the growing divide between the top 5% and the rest of the country. Inflation & weakening dollar are cripling us. Bush has sold almost all our debt to China - we are losing the strong middle class. It's increasingly more difficult for families to make a living. I agree- taxes need to be addressed but the big picture should also be understood.

immigration- I see two sides to this story. First, English should be the official language and people should be expected to learn it. But we should also teach second languages to all students- as it is important to succeed in a world economy with that skill set. On the other side of immigration, there are many industries that rely on hard working immigrants (many hotels, restaurants). It is very difficult to find people who would be willing to take on certain jobs. Without an eased immigration policy, tourism in particular would be hurt- and from a hospitality perspective - service impacted. It's a very difficult topic to please so the only way to accomplish a 'policy' would be cooperation (something the Right has been unwilling to do since 2000).

But moving on to your "Iraq" points -
1. Democrats were not given the full intelligence reports. The White House and Congressional Republicans held back information in addition to holding secret committee meetings. There is strong evidence now that Cheney was cherry picking to "cook the intel" from the CIA. I don't care if you don't believe me- this information is readily out there. Try Google. Why is it that Cheney's top secret Energy meeting is confidential? The war is all about oil - which is why Bush/Cheney will start to remove troops as soon as the oil-sharing revenues bill passes the Iraqi Congress when they return the end of summer (Hence Cheney's recent visit to Iraq). It's about controlling the oil and keeping it off the market, not producing.

2. Iraq creating new breed of jihadists, says CIA. There were no terrorists there before, but there are now...nice training ground for urban assaults with our troops printed as bright targets. they can polish their skills before coming to the US.

3. We've been lucky there have not been any more attacks, Iraq has caused more problems than it will be worth in the long run. Killing 600,000 innocent Iraqi's will only cause future hatred and planned attacks.

4. Myth: Media is not "liberal" as all major networks are owned by corporations: News Corp, General Electric, Disney, Viacom, Time-Warner, Clear Channel and AT&T. These are companies with conservative corp and extensively donate to the Republican party. Saying the media is "liberal" is just an excuse for not wanting to hear the truth as you'd rather hear news as opinion, not fact.

On to Osama Bin Forgotten ... as Bush has been quoted "I don't know where he is, I really don't spend all that much time on it" How do you feel about that? I for one am pissed off. My dad lost friends in the WTC and to have Bush make jokes about it pisses me off.

Bush Family & Saudi Arabia - why were the Saudi's given the ONLY air traffic clearance right after 9/11? Why Iraq? Saddam was evil, but it was the Saudi's who attacked us on 9/11. Do you ever ask yourself why we are letting Afghanistan slipping away? Because our military is overextended in Iraq fighting a corporate oil war under the guise of "terrorism"

The Bush Crime Family has more impeachable offenses than any other administration in history- they make Nixon look clean.

-stacking states with Federal Prosectors to steal elections
-outing of active CIA agent
-falsifying intelligence
-unwarranted wire tapping
-perjury under oath
-shredding of official government records
-emailing on separate "non-authorized" server

List is endless, too bad the Dems are too spineless.

By the way, I'm an independant voter. And now i'm going to look at some stoke. Next time, take it to the Padded Room.

And yes, it's cool to be stoked for snow in New York

[rideit]

Just for clarification, I am NO mensa candidate....I was kidding, but those dolts, once again, have no sense of the absurd.

Well, I have to give rushtard credit, folks are actually biting on this thread!

Nothing else to do in May, I guess...gotta go pack a bike for another great adventure!
Toodles!

East Coast, here I come!

[grrrr]

This thread reminds me of the ones I used to post.

Cast your bait out there, drink a couple beers, do whatever you were doing......
Then you get bored...you think to yourself "oh yeah, I have BAIT out there"!!

Time to check the lines!!! Log on to TGR.

I think rushbaby is actually a lefty trying to sound like a conservative to score more hits. He has the idiocy down too pat to be genuine.

[Squirrel99]

Just for clarification, I am NO mensa candidate....I was kidding, but those dolts, once again, have no sense of the absurd.

Well, I have to give rushtard credit, folks are actually biting on this thread!

I'm bored Waiting for 666 to post his TR from waarshington.

enjoy your east coast trip

[Rush baby]

Just for clarification, I am NO mensa candidate....I was kidding, but those dolts, once again, have no sense of the absurd.

Well, I have to give rushtard credit, folks are actually biting on this thread!

Nothing else to do in May, I guess...gotta go pack a bike for another great adventure!
Toodles!

East Coast, here I come!

So, Squirrel hits one out of the ball park and now it's ok to post here. I get it now.

[Rush baby]

yawn. I don't even know where to start.

what the neocons need to understand is that it IS American to be open to different points of view. enough of this "Liberals are commies" or "anti-Americans" - the only thing the Right knows how to do is to smear people and drive wedges among the population in an attempt polarize the country. Nobody on either side wants our country attacked by terrorists so get over it.

Is that why the Democrats put the troop pull out timeline in the bill, or was that just to satisfy the left? Playing politics with the troops. That's cool.

first off, there are places we can still agree. As for taxes, a flat percentage tax on income across the board would make sense to me. But we need to figure out how to address the growing divide between the top 5% and the rest of the country. Inflation & weakening dollar are cripling us. Bush has sold almost all our debt to China - we are losing the strong middle class. It's increasingly more difficult for families to make a living. I agree- taxes need to be addressed but the big picture should also be understood.

Invest in Asian ETFs. Flat tax would be cool. Here in MN, we had a 2 billion surplus, and they STILL tried to hike the property tax, income tax, and gas tax.

immigration- I see two sides to this story. First, English should be the official language and people should be expected to learn it. But we should also teach second languages to all students- as it is important to succeed in a world economy with that skill set. On the other side of immigration, there are many industries that rely on hard working immigrants (many hotels, restaurants). It is very difficult to find people who would be willing to take on certain jobs. Without an eased immigration policy, tourism in particular would be hurt- and from a hospitality perspective - service impacted. It's a very difficult topic to please so the only way to accomplish a 'policy' would be cooperation (something the Right has been unwilling to do since 2000).

The guest worker program w/out amnesty sounds like a fair compromise to me. What's wrong with it?

But moving on to your "Iraq" points -
1. Democrats were not given the full intelligence reports. The White House and Congressional Republicans held back information in addition to holding secret committee meetings. There is strong evidence now that Cheney was cherry picking to "cook the intel" from the CIA. I don't care if you don't believe me- this information is readily out there. Try Google. Why is it that Cheney's top secret Energy meeting is confidential? The war is all about oil - which is why Bush/Cheney will start to remove troops as soon as the oil-sharing revenues bill passes the Iraqi Congress when they return the end of summer (Hence Cheney's recent visit to Iraq). It's about controlling the oil and keeping it off the market, not producing.

Sounds like Mr. Moore propaganda.



2. Iraq creating new breed of jihadists, says CIA. There were no terrorists there before, but there are now...nice training ground for urban assaults with our troops printed as bright targets. they can polish their skills before coming to the US.

3. We've been lucky there have not been any more attacks, Iraq has caused more problems than it will be worth in the long run. Killing 600,000 innocent Iraqi's will only cause future hatred and planned attacks.

4. Myth: Media is not "liberal" as all major networks are owned by corporations: News Corp, General Electric, Disney, Viacom, Time-Warner, Clear Channel and AT&T. These are companies with conservative corp and extensively donate to the Republican party. Saying the media is "liberal" is just an excuse for not wanting to hear the truth as you'd rather hear news as opinion, not fact.

Here's a fact - 7000 people rallied against a tax hike at the MN capital. The local media apparently didn't think it was worth reporting, but thought a few hundred people protest against the Iraq war was worth it. Just the tip of the iceberg on that.

On to Osama Bin Forgotten ... as Bush has been quoted "I don't know where he is, I really don't spend all that much time on it" How do you feel about that? I for one am pissed off. My dad lost friends in the WTC and to have Bush make jokes about it pisses me off.

I am not a full supporter of Bush. I disagree with many of his policies.

Bush Family & Saudi Arabia - why were the Saudi's given the ONLY air traffic clearance right after 9/11? Why Iraq? Saddam was evil, but it was the Saudi's who attacked us on 9/11. Do you ever ask yourself why we are letting Afghanistan slipping away? Because our military is overextended in Iraq fighting a corporate oil war under the guise of "terrorism"

The Bush Crime Family has more impeachable offenses than any other administration in history- they make Nixon look clean.

-stacking states with Federal Prosectors to steal elections
-outing of active CIA agent
-falsifying intelligence
-unwarranted wire tapping
-perjury under oath
-shredding of official government records
-emailing on separate "non-authorized" server

List is endless, too bad the Dems are too spineless.

By the way, I'm an independant voter. And now i'm going to look at some stoke. Next time, take it to the Padded Room.

And yes, it's cool to be stoked for snow in New York

_OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO_

[rideit]

Squirrel, did you ever get my message that I rode with your buddy kyle (SLC) at Targhee?
Dude can rip on the tele-planks!

[Rush baby]

And speaking of smear campaigns, what do you think Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, Bill Maher, George Carlin, Mike Moore, Al Frankin, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and dozens of other holywood bandwagen kooks make a healthy living doing?

Fox is all we have. And they are discussing a fairness Doctrine?

WTF!?

[Rush baby]

I think rushbaby is actually a lefty trying to sound like a conservative to score more hits. He has the idiocy down too pat to be genuine.

How long did it take you to formulate that one?

[Steepdeepnlong]

_OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO_

Wait a minute. That's the best you can do? You bitch and moan for two fu**ing days that nobody responds to your questions. Then when someone does (and quite intelligently I must say - way to rip it Squirrel) all you got is _OOOOOOOOOO_?

That's weak. You're exposed. Sign off bitch.

[Yonder_River]

And speaking of smear campaigns, what do you think Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, Bill Maher, George Carlin, Mike Moore, Al Frankin, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and dozens of other holywood bandwagen kooks make a healthy living doing?

Fox is all we have. And they are discussing a fairness Doctrine?

WTF!?

Uhh, Fox pretends to be real, objective news. They pose as media.

That's not even comparable to, let's see, who'd you list there...some comedians, a guy who makes documentaries, and some publicity hound reverends.

[Rush baby]

Wait a minute. That's the best you can do? You bitch and moan for two fu**ing days that nobody responds to your questions. Then when someone does (and quite intelligently I must say - way to rip it Squirrel) all you got is _OOOOOOOOOO_?

That's weak. You're exposed. Sign off bitch.

It was filler text so I could send the message with the bold text in between his comments. Look closer bitch.

[Rush baby]

Wait a minute. That's the best you can do? You bitch and moan for two fu**ing days that nobody responds to your questions. Then when someone does (and quite intelligently I must say - way to rip it Squirrel) all you got is _OOOOOOOOOO_?

That's weak. You're exposed. Sign off bitch.

Besides, well the hell have been? Sitting on the sidelines like a little pussy, waiting for someone else to challenge me?

You're the loser. Sign off bitch.

[philippeR]

It was filler text so I could send the message with the bold text in between his comments. Look closer bitch.

I am not a full supporter of Bush. I disagree with many of his policies.

and

Sounds like Mr. Moore propaganda.

are your best shots, as far as a thorough rebuttal's concerned ?

Mad debating skills you got there, Rush...
You've convinced me, I've changed my mind.

[Rush baby]

Uhh, Fox pretends to be real, objective news. They pose as media.

That's not even comparable to, let's see, who'd you list there...some comedians, a guy who makes documentaries, and some publicity hound reverends.

Hey dipshit, do you have any idea how much of an impact those sources of media have on mush-headed liberals like you. Do you even know what the fairness Doctrine is? Without googling it?

Did I forget to mention the New York Time? And the counless other liberal newspapers out there? Oh, and I also forgot, Tom Brokaw, Dan Rather, and the other handfull of liberal biased network news channels. And don't forget the cable news networks.

Go rent a couple more Mike Moore movies a sit the fuck out.

[Rush baby]

I am not a full supporter of Bush. I disagree with many of his policies.

and

Sounds like Mr. Moore propaganda.

are your best shots, as far as a thorough rebuttal's concerned ?

Mad debating skills you got there, Rush...
You've convinced me, I've changed my mind.

It was like 12:30 am and I was tired.

Still tired and need to jump on a flight this morning.

BTW, why don't you weigh in? Instead of waiting for someone else and cheering. Otherwise please resign your membership to the peanut gallery.

[philippeR]

It was like 12:30 am and I was tired.

Still tired and need to jump on a flight this morning.

BTW, why don't you weigh in? Instead of waiting for someone else and cheering. Otherwise please resign your membership to the peanut gallery.

Because, Rush, that's the last thing you need, weight on the other side...

[irul&ublo]

Yes, I do ski.

snowblades don't count beeyotch...

[Stew Pid]

Time for me to post in here in defence of my buddy Rushy.

Just cause you're not smart doesnt mean you're not a good decider.

[irul&ublo]

If Rush Baby posts any more drivel, I'm gonna go NOOKULUR!!!!!

[freshies]

Hey dipshit, do you have any idea how much of an impact those sources of media have on mush-headed liberals like you.

yet those sources of media you like (Fox, Rush, etc) don't have the same effect on "mush-headed" conservatives like you...right?

dude, wake up and smell the coffee, blindly supporting one side or the other is the true sign of a "mush-headed" lib or conserv, the later of which you appear to be.