Recco?

[summit]

Life link has 3 different sizes at the moment,Proline,Plus and Rando, 15L,30L and 60(?)L.

People are buying 600$ skis every year but considers a 500$ "backpack" too expensive buy every 10 years. Go figure.

www.life-link.com
No 60L there.

The size I need is 40-50L with fairly specific fit and features. (currently fulfilled by a 42L Osprey which is *perfect* cost me $90)

$500 backpack? hahahhhahahah

30L is $825...
15L is $790

will this 60L cost $900?

its also $80-$100 every time the device accidently triggers.

The most I've ever paid for skis was $350.

I don't see myself paying $900 for ski equipment that doesn't match my needs exactly.

You can buy completely customized built packs for $250.

ABS would be better designing modular systems you can add to your current pack (I believe this is in the works actually). You can check out the running ABS thread on the TTips avie forum for more (similar) opinion and information.

[Meathelmet]

$500 backpack? hahahhhahahah

As i said.

ABS would be better designing modular systems you can add to your current pack (I believe this is in the works actually).

One german avalanche instructor spoke that the existing prototypes didnt work because the attachment to the regular backpack or the regular backpack itself was not strong enough to handle the forces of avalanche.

And here´s is the link to the bigger backpack. 45L,but it was made by Deuter not life link. My bad.

http://www.abssystem.com/



And the price is 680$ or something.

[AltaPowderDaze]

bump since the topic seems to be making its way back around.

[Free Range Lobster]

I don't see myself paying $900 for ski equipment that doesn't match my needs exactly.

This begs the question, what is your life worth?

[cj001f]

This begs the question, what is your life worth?

$900 is the USFS Avy school Phase 1 & 2. A much wiser investment.

[Free Range Lobster]

$900 is the USFS Avy school Phase 1 & 2. A much wiser investment.

And then all that money you save on lift tickets can get you the ABS system.

[AltaPowderDaze]

Basically a corpse finder.

Not a beacon alternative.

Cheap.

But it can't hurt to have them.

can't hurt to have them...but i still wouldn't count on them. good news none the less:

Recco Records Live Avy Recovery in German BC

January 10, 2006
Hinterstein, Germany (Ski Press)-On New Year’s Eve, a 29-year old German woman who was caught in an avalanche and trapped under 1.5 meters of snow was pinpointed with the RECCO avalanche rescue system and recovered alive after being completely buried for 45 minutes.

The woman and her partner had been snowshoeing to a backcountry cabin when the slide hit, swept her 150 meters downhill and trapped her under 1.5 meters of debris in a narrow, hard-to-reach gully. The backcountry traveler caught in the slide was not wearing a transceiver even though the avalanche danger in the surrounding mountains was rated considerable on the international scale that day.

Luckily her partner was not caught and placed a cell phone call to police, who then deployed Mountain Rescue of Hinterstein. Two rescuers equipped with an avalanche dog and a RECCO detector were immediately transported to the accident scene by helicopter, ahead of a rapidly approaching storm and descending darkness.

After a 15-minute search, the buried woman was located with the RECCO detector, pinpointed with probes and subsequently dug out alive and conscious. Three hours after the slide, she was transported by military rescue helicopter to a nearby hospital where she has since recovered from the ordeal.

Even though RECCO has been globally adopted by ski resorts and is utilized often as a method of off-piste avalanche rescue, this successful recovery occurred far removed from the nearest ski slope. A convergence of factors including cell phone coverage in the incident area, a rapid air-based rescue response and a buried victim who was detectable by the avalanche rescue system, which is able to pinpoint RECCO reflectors integrated into commercially available ski wear, boots and protection gear.

[fez]

but it was still a 45 minute burial. how many people survive that long buried?

[AltaPowderDaze]

but it was still a 45 minute burial. how many people survive that long buried?

not many. within a resort the response time would be quicker and hopefully there would be a real chance for 5-10min recco recoveries, provided they have an air pocket.

[cj001f]

Looks like about 33% of burial victims survive ~45 minutes.

[Toby]

but it was still a 45 minute burial. how many people survive that long buried?

Well, she did. If I was her I'd be _very_ happy with my $20 investment.

[flip]

can't hurt to have them...but i still wouldn't count on them. good news none the less:

45 minutes under snow with no avalung? Damn. Girl lucked out with some kind of huge air-pocket....

[ptavv]

As far as I can tell it doesn't say boo about whether she had an avalung or not... Just saying.

[AltaPowderDaze]

it leaves out a lot of details. it didn't mention if she had recco reflectors or not. it did say that she was found by use of the recco receiver.

[flip]

As far as I can tell it doesn't say boo about whether she had an avalung or not... Just saying.

She was out snowshoeing and didn't have a beacon. Why would she have had an avalung?

Maybe she's amphibious and absorbs oxygen through her skin?

[telecincy44]

Does anybody know if the RECCO system could interfere with a standard beacon?(i.e. the tracker)

[AltaPowderDaze]

Does anybody know if the RECCO system could interfere with a standard beacon?(i.e. the tracker)

it will not. there was some concern about cell phones and beacons but i don't believe that was related to the diode in the phone, which is similar to the diode in the recco device. the last round of tests by bca determined cell phones to be acceptable also.

[hutash]

I thought cell phones could interfer with beacons if they are on. Most of what I have heard is to travel with cell phones off. It would seem helpful if you could just call the victim and ask him where he is buried, seems like it would save a lot of time and bother.

[AltaPowderDaze]

I thought cell phones could interfer with beacons if they are on. Most of what I have heard is to travel with cell phones off.

off is a good idea but on has its virtues as well. it looks like as long as you keep the phone and beacon 8" away from each other there are no negative effects. i haven't noticed anything in practice. http://www.bcaccess.com/home_menu/Ne...larifyCell.php