EHPs......

[upallnight]

FKNA DUDE

that much is true for sure

a bird in the hand....

all the pre-orders i've done have been delayed.

[thebigeast]

i talked to 4frnt the other day, ive been 4 told 3 to weeks before my order is ready to ship

[thebigeast]

i am drunk, 3 to 4 weeks b4 they will ship

[Phill]

How well can these turn? I am 6'3" 185. would I get owned by the trees?

[marshalolson]

that depends on if you suck or not.

[Phill]

I dont suck. Quite the opposite. But I ski in wa and there are a lot of trees there. I really am stoked on the 193's though, I just want to be sure that I can muscle them through the trees if I have to.

[Z]

that depends on if you suck or not.

Phill...

You don't suck, do you?

[Vicious]

I dont suck. Quite the opposite. But I ski in wa and there are a lot of trees there. I really am stoked on the 193's though, I just want to be sure that I can muscle them through the trees if I have to.

Do you at least swallow??

[Particle]

How well can these turn? I am 6'3" 185. would I get owned by the trees?

You know that old saying about how if you have to ask how expensive something is, you probably can't afford it?
Yeah. And don't forget to swallow.

[Phill]

Wow are you guys going as assholes for halloween or something.

I was only asking if someone who had experience skiing these could tell me thier opinion of how well it turned

[freeskisquaw]

Wow are you guys going as assholes for halloween or something.

I was only asking if someone who had experience skiing these could tell me thier opinion of how well it turned

Well, I'm going to be skiing them and im about 5'9", 140ish. So I assume that you'll be fine. PM me and I'll try to hook you up with a pair.

[Professor]

Wow are you guys going as assholes for halloween or something.

I was only asking if someone who had experience skiing these could tell me thier opinion of how well it turned

I think you may want to run a search and see what has already been said about these. I think Particle and I are the only people that have skied them. That being said, I dont plan on skiing a bunch of trees on these. Yes they are easier to ski than other boards I have, but they are not a turny little tree ski by any means. At first glance, I kind of agree with Particle on the "if you have to ask" thing

[cpj.slc]

I really want to get a pair of these, so if anyone has a hook up and wants to help me out that would be great.

[Z]

Zach,

I apologize but I can't give you an exact date. These skis had to be sent back overseas to be repressed and all I have been told is a couple weeks. The best I can tell you is the middle of November. Please know that we are doing everything in our power to get them to you as soon as we can....

[upallnight]

Zach,

I apologize but I can't give you an exact date. These skis had to be sent back overseas to be repressed and all I have been told is a couple weeks. The best I can tell you is the middle of November. Please know that we are doing everything in our power to get them to you as soon as we can....

oh well, we can wait. i think it's a good thing that they're re-pressing all of them.

and EHP 193 with the camber of a regular ski is not terribly appealing.

[freshies]

Mine came and are now on the way back to 4frnt.

Here is the kicker, both skis had stickers on the tails that read "made in Tunisia".

WTF?

you all are suckers, buying into the hype....send them back so they can be "fixed"??!! WTF? sounds like they got some major production problems, i mean, where was the quality control (mmm, ok, we shipped 'em all out with camber??).

[thebigeast]

I really want to get a pair of these, so if anyone has a hook up and wants to help me out that would be great.

pm freeskisquaw, he helped me get them for a bit of a deal

[Z]

you all are suckers, buying into the hype....send them back so they can be "fixed"??!! WTF? sounds like they got some major production problems, i mean, where was the quality control (mmm, ok, we shipped 'em all out with camber??).

Your mom is a sucker. Trust me.

[upallnight]

you all are suckers, buying into the hype....

you bought spats, no? you bought into the hype -- you didn't ski them before riding 'em.

the dimensions of the EHP 193 are intriguing, as is their camber (or lack thereof) and flex profile. expecting 4frnt to deliver a product as described is not really 'buying to the hype'. i think it's cool that they are fixing the problem.

sounds like a few shipped before they caught it. for the record, it sounds like mine & Z's never shipped, and all will be fixed before we lay hands on them.

kind of par for the course, esp with some smaller companies. my dps, bros, and ehps are all delayed due to production issues.

i WAS going to let you try 'em when you're in jackson, but now...

[kidwoo]

you all are suckers, buying into the hype....send them back so they can be "fixed"??!! WTF? sounds like they got some major production problems, i mean, where was the quality control (mmm, ok, we shipped 'em all out with camber??).

thank god this kind of thing is only isolated to the ski industry

[Z]

you bought spats, no? you bought into the hype -- you didn't ski them before riding 'em.

the dimensions of the EHP 193 are intriguing, as is their camber (or lack thereof) and flex profile. expecting 4frnt to deliver a product as described is not really 'buying to the hype'. i think it's cool that they are fixing the problem.

sounds like a few shipped before they caught it. for the record, it sounds like mine & Z's never shipped, and all will be fixed before we lay hands on them.

kind of par for the course, esp with some smaller companies. my dps, bros, and ehps are all delayed due to production issues.

i WAS going to let you try 'em when you're in jackson, but now...

I was told earlier that mine (and yours?) were not part of the first shipment. I think we're just waiting for the first shipment to get shipped back (fixed) before we get ours. Who knows....

[freshies]

you bought spats, no? you bought into the hype -- you didn't ski them before riding 'em.

the dimensions of the EHP 193 are intriguing, as is their camber (or lack thereof) and flex profile. expecting 4frnt to deliver a product as described is not really 'buying to the hype'. i think it's cool that they are fixing the problem.

sounds like a few shipped before they caught it. for the record, it sounds like mine & Z's never shipped, and all will be fixed before we lay hands on them.

kind of par for the course, esp with some smaller companies. my dps, bros, and ehps are all delayed due to production issues.

i WAS going to let you try 'em when you're in jackson, but now...

i waited a year or two on the spats, and rode them before i bought 'em. but, yeah, i know what you are getting at....

hey, didn't mean to come across so harsh, props for those guys starting their company and trying new designs, etc - its just that i have been around this block before with new gear companys (skis, bikes, surf boards. etc) - and i always got hosed when i stepped up and supported these companies before they got their shit dialed.....so maybe that was my old bitterness coming out.

i look forward to trying those bad boys in JH this winter

[upallnight]

i waited a year or two on the spats, and rode them before i bought 'em. but, yeah, i know what you are getting at....

hey, didn't mean to come across so harsh, props for those guys starting their company and trying new designs, etc - its just that i have been around this block before with new gear companys (skis, bikes, surf boards. etc) - and i always got hosed when i stepped up and supported these companies before they got their shit dialed.....so maybe that was my old bitterness coming out.

i look forward to trying those bad boys in JH this winter

point taken. spats were out for a number of years before you got on yours (you first skied them last year or late the prior season, no?)...and even 'production' spats (some) have their problems. pretty much all volant skis had some delam issues. (my spats have been good, and i'm thankful for that.)

anyhoo....the EHP 193 has been skied by folks last year, although it hasn't been a production ski until this year. we'll see what happens. 4frnt has a pretty solid reputation for building decent product. at the price i paid, it was worth the gamble.

no stores in JH carry them; you'll have to go over the pass to idaho!

[thebigeast]

where are my EHPS damn it FKNA, any one get theirs back yet? i need them NOW!!

[azzure]

Mine arrived and I sent them back for a full refund immediately. Not only were the skis not pressed flat, but there was a 1” size chip out of the sidewall (yup there is wood in there) that someone tried to cover up with epoxy. Long story short, I wasn’t very impressed but let’s hope it was an isolated experience.