weight loss and skiing

**INDY GS** · 10-05-2006, 11:38 AM

I didn't say it was unhealthy, I said I FELT unhealthy. The last time I had a body composition analysis done, I weighed in at 191, had a BMI of 24.5 and body fat of 10.8% Which by my nutritionists statements is very healthy for an adult male in his late 20s early 30s. She said under 9% Body Fat she would consider to be too low.

And remember i live in Indiana, one of, if not the leader in obeasity rates.

**fridge** · 10-05-2006, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by SnowTigress

Is it just me or does this guy have an erection?

I'm about 6'3, 220. I don't look real overweight, but I've always been too pudgy for my liking. I can't ever seem to eat right, maybe I should see a nutritionist to get me on the right track.

**skideeppow** · 10-05-2006, 12:49 PM

I weighed about 218, 511 after ski season. Got down to 190 this summer by riding around 200 miles a week.
Been lifting and doing plyos for winter last three weeks and put back about 15 lbs in muscle.
Having the weight and strength makes for faster and more powerfull skiing.

**The AD** · 10-05-2006, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by skideeppow

Been lifting and doing plyos for winter last three weeks and put back about 15 lbs in muscle.

Impossible.

**Grange** · 10-05-2006, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by fridge

Is it just me or does this guy have an erection?

Isn't that why they call it good morning?

Earlier in the summer I weighed almost 170 and my body fat was up to 14%. At 5'6" that was too heavy. I had quit doing cardio on a regular basis and just stuck to weight lifting. I was still fitting into 30X30 pants, but a belt wasn't necessary anymore. I decided to stop eating chips and cereal cold turkey and start doing cardio on a regular basis again. I thought it woud be difficult, but actually it was quite easy.

Now I weight between 157 and 160. I easily fit into my pants again and a belt is once again necessary for a couple of pair. Instead of chips for lunch it's either cottage cheese or a salad and instead of cereal for breakfast it's 2 eggs and 2 strips of bacon. I'm actually about the weight I want to be regardless of what the BMI says. With the way I look and feel now I'd bet my body fat has dropped a couple of points.

**skideeppow** · 10-05-2006, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by The AD

Impossible.

ok i am lying, there miight be some fat in there, bit not much.

**MakersTeleMark** · 10-05-2006, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by Grange

instead of cereal for breakfast it's 2 eggs and 2 strips of bacon. I'm actually about the weight I want to be regardless of what the BMI says. With the way I look and feel now I'd bet my body fat has dropped a couple of points.

The tribute of your success is obvious.

+ 10.

**altagirl** · 10-05-2006, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by fridge

I'm about 6'3, 220. I don't look real overweight, but I've always been too pudgy for my liking. I can't ever seem to eat right, maybe I should see a nutritionist to get me on the right track.

Define "can't seem to eat right". Like you dont know what you should be eating to acheive your goals or you just don't have the motivation to actually eat right?

**gh444** · 10-05-2006, 05:55 PM

it makes me laugh the perception of what is considered healthy. i've been everywhere from 6'2" 195lbs to 266lbs in the last four years. the only unhealthy levels were under 200lbs and over 260lbs. my BMI has always been considered obese. just as any athlete over 200lbs would be considered. Ali in his day would have been considered obese by the BMI scale.
And the mighter than thou attitude that people get when they talk about other's diets is absurd. unless you're a nutritionist (who knows what questions to ask first) then what qualifies you to give advice?

be the weight that makes you feel the best........if you're too heavy then you already know it, if you're healthy then you already know it. track your changes in weight in the mirror rather than on a scale.

my 2c,

-aaron

**freshies** · 10-05-2006, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by fat yeti

I am just wondering how wieght loss has effected your skiing. This year the fat yeti has slimmed down a bit from 5' 8" 198 to about 173. We had a contest at work who could losss the most weight, the pot is $300 and if all goes well i shoudl win, at least I hope. I hope to loose more weight by the time the bird open's I hope to weigh around 155 to 160 at that point. I have been working out but running, mt biking, stationary bike and the eliptical. Im wondering how this weight loss will effect my ability to ski the bid daddies that I own, i hope the muscle I have gained will make up for the weight I have lost. Any imput would be great and any other work out suggestion for ski tranning for the up comming season would be great as well. Thanks

I am 5'8 (almost 5'9!) and weigh between 155-160 and can ski those just fine....and I actually gain a bit of weight every winter b/c I bike less and drink more

I usually slim down again the spring/summer/fall from all the riding....

**Arty50** · 10-05-2006, 07:33 PM

I was 220 for years and got down to 199 about 5-6 years ago. A desk job later and I was up to 240. I've since come back down to around 225-230 and have noticed huge improvements in my skiing with just that little bit of loss. Mainly, I'm a lot more nimble which is a huge asset when playing around in rocky techy sections. When you're overweight, your body works against you. Balance is a lot harder to come by, and all that mass doesn't change directions as easily.

**LaramieSkiBum** · 10-05-2006, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by BallsDeep

I gotta say that looks like a shitty way to do good mornings. I do them with the weight out in front of you, back straight, knees slightly bent. Kills in the mornings, seems much safer on the back and you can start out with 45's+....

oh, and hold your hands one over, one under, and swap them each time. Prevents you from trying to use your arms and isolates the hams....

**Cono Este** · 10-05-2006, 08:14 PM

When I used to swim, I was about 175, at 6'3". I quit swimming and started working at a brewery. Needless to say, all that hefeweizen put me up to 220. Then after about 5 yrs of hellish work I weighed 260!! Needless to say I tore my mensicus. I blame the weight. Anyway, so I changed my diet and dropped 40 pounds in a yr. Definetly a difference on the skis, your joints just dont hold up as well when your overweight.

I put on a little since the kids came and I moved, but have been hitting the gym hard the last 2 months. I haver a big frame, so I expect to add alot of muscle, lots of squat etc.., and not drop too much more weight.

There I did it, confession of a slightly overweight man. I feel better now.

**Grange** · 10-05-2006, 08:28 PM

175 at 6'3" and you have a big frame? Reminds me of John Travolta. He was thin as a rail during his Saturday Night Fever days and now he's kind of fat.

**Cono Este** · 10-05-2006, 08:32 PM

lol, exactly. Chest hair and all.

I was swimming about 15k a day and living off 5 bucks a day. That will do it. My doctor said my muscles were canabalizing themselves. Wish I was better educated in nutrition when i was an athlete. Its key.

**grskier** · 10-05-2006, 09:37 PM

@197 and 5'8", I'm a fat ass... I know it.

I just hate jogging, don't want to spend the money on the gym, and lift every other day. I get away with it for the most part, as I do a crapload of core stuff, but still have a suv tire as a spare.

**fridge** · 10-05-2006, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by altagirl

Define "can't seem to eat right". Like you dont know what you should be eating to acheive your goals or you just don't have the motivation to actually eat right?

Both. I need some sort of plan to follow that I know will work, but I also have no willpower.

I'm also very good at coming up with excuses for not working out. I work from 7-3:30, then coach football from 4-6:30, then normally end up out for beer and wings which doesn't leave me much time for anything else other than getting fatter.

**The AD** · 10-05-2006, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by fridge

I work from 7-3:30, then coach football from 4-6:30, then normally end up out for beer and wings which doesn't leave me much time for anything else other than getting fatter.

You know the solution: workout before you go to work. Yeah, it sucks, but working out in the morning is actually the best way to avoid making excuses.

**pointedem** · 10-05-2006, 10:27 PM

Put it this way:

Every pro skier I know, or for that matter every skier I know that I consider to be execellent is ripped. Not much body fat and limber, lean muscles.

The higher your power to weight ratio, the better skier you are going to be. Excess fat works against you, no two ways about that.

Different topic, but gets me everytime:

Anyone else have a friend that is the fucking Lance Armstrong of hiking and will be waiting for me on the top smoking a rollie/ marb reb/ ect? I shake my head every time.

**Tin Woodsman** · 10-06-2006, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by pointedem

Put it this way:

Different topic, but gets me everytime:

Anyone else have a friend that is the fucking Lance Armstrong of hiking and will be waiting for me on the top smoking a rollie/ marb reb/ ect? I shake my head every time.

I know "that guy". F'ing a-hole.

FWIW (not a whole lot), I gained about 10 lbs. last summer during one of the most egregiously sedentary periods of my life. My skiing paid for it in the form of a dramatic loss of power and stamina. Whereas before I would be able to power out of the back seat upon landing a jump, last year I wasn't able to recover.

Not this year. Not only does it plain suck, it's downright dangerous on the ACLs.

**altagirl** · 10-06-2006, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by The AD

You know the solution: workout before you go to work. Yeah, it sucks, but working out in the morning is actually the best way to avoid making excuses.

Yep. You get used to getting up and working out in the morning and feel better once you get past that initial shock. I put my alarm on my phone on for 5am and keep it on the other side of the house so I have to get out of bed and move my butt to go turn it off. Have your clothes laid out so you can get dressed in the dark and GO.

Also key: Go to bed and picture yourself jumping out of bed in the morning and hitting the gym. If you fall asleep thinking "yeah right", I know I'm just going to hit snooze, you will.

Don't get me wrong, going to a nutritionist is a great idea. But you probably already know that beer and wings every night aren't helping you any, and that you need to exercise regularly, and eating something with protein after your workout will help too.

Having a precise plan is great if you're into it. But chances are, you're using that and wanting to meet with a nutritionist as your excuse to not start doing anything. And a lot of people get hung up on not wanting to or being able to stick to a strict plan. But you don't really NEED either one to make some positive changes and get started.

(and apparently I'm the internet nutritionist that gonehuckin hates.)

**Ireallyliketoski2** · 10-06-2006, 10:14 AM

BMI is meaningless for people with high muscle density.

Basically it breaks down like this, you can either eat whatever you want and ski dynafits or watch your caloric intake and ski freerides.

**FreshPow** · 10-06-2006, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by altagirl

How is this possible? Do you just not eat? Are you on the Trackhead, skinning 20,000ft every day plan? Do you weigh 300lbs normally? Are you a skeleton at the end of the season?

I know this happens to me as well...I just attribute it to water loss because I usually just gain it back when I get home.

**altagirl** · 10-06-2006, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by FreshPow

I know this happens to me as well...I just attribute it to water loss because I usually just gain it back when I get home.

Yeah. I've never weighed myself after skiing, but I know I lose a couple pounds after just an hour or so at the gym, so that makes sense.

Odd sidebar, but we went to Moab for 3 days, I ate only about half the calories I burned riding and when we got home I had gained 4 lbs. Which I lost again the next day, so I guess it was my body retaining water from the salty foods I'm inclined to eat while I'm exercising so much.

Anyway, I can see losing 5-10lbs of water weight. I just read that and went... how in the hell do you lose 10lbs a week? (I was thinking more... linear) But if you're gaining a lot of it right back once you replenish yourself after the activity, it's not like you'd have lost 200lbs by the end of the season.

**Cono Este** · 10-06-2006, 11:01 AM

The easiest change to make in your diet, is to go on an all water diet for fluids. No soda, redbull, whatever. You drink most of your junk calories. I lost serious weight once just doing that.