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    The star at the Truckee rally was the Elvis impersonator with the sign "The is only one King in America" on one side and "Thank you very much" on the other.Meanwhile the military parade did nicely show off the military's past--including the Abrams tanks, which the Russians destroyed with drones in Ukraine.

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    A couple people (security guards? peacekeepers&#39 stopped a mass shooting at the SLC parade - they shot a guy who had an assault rifle thankfully and unfortunately they also shot an innocent bystander who died. I was going to go to this rally and bring a daughter or two to show how we as a family dont tolerate totalitarianism until I read the assassinations in MN. I delayed my daughters inevitable US mass shooting experience by a bit! Good job Dad! wtf

    Instead of rallying for peace on Saturday and yes before the shooting I started the process of getting a EU passport Ive put off for decades. For months I have had a weird feeling about the direction we are heading and/or pointing to. I hope Im very wrong and don't need to blow this popsicle stand. History shows the people who don't have options when shit hits the fan get screwed, so ya gotta plan ahead, right?

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    Good for you, I had that EU passport until Brexit. Now that we are retired, moving would be easy imo, but sadly the wife isn't there yet. I guess we are waiting for shit to really hit the fan.

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    Never in U.S. history has the public chosen leadership this malevolent. The moral clarity of their decision is crystalline, particularly knowing how Trump will regard his slim margin as a “mandate” to do his worst. We’ve learned something about America that we didn’t know, or perhaps didn’t believe, and it’ll forever color our individual judgments of who and what we are.

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    I applied for my Irish one a few months ago, it should come though in August if all goes as expected. Definitely never a bad thing to have options. All of a sudden it just seemed unwise to keep putting it off, also after decades of delay.


    Hadnt read about the SLC deal, wif?

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    How difficult was the Irish bureaucratic process?

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    I would def be applying for whatever passport options are available. It’s always good to have options and even just for travelling, the US passport isn’t as good as many others for visa free access these days and will prob get worse if DJT keeps banning countries

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    It's pretty straightforward, you need legit birth certificates but that's the hardest part, just making sure you have the correct documents. But I didn't have a problem getting my grandfather's birth certificate from Ireland it didn't take that long, maybe 6 weeks or so. Getting my Dad's and mine from Boston was dead simple. Once you send it all in they said it would take 9 months at that point.

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    I've joked that maybe my grandparents just made a mistake. "America? Yeah we tried it for a couple generations but decided we'd rather be back here."

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    Once you get it, can your kids then use you as their in? What about spouses? Any idea?

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    He, Arturo, was also part of the “peace keeping unit”. I’m at a complete loss for words as to how there were “peace keepers” who weren’t 100% vetted were allowed and possibly encouraged by the organizers to carry guns. Not a big fan of the cops, but SLCPD. Did a good job during the BLM protests. Allowed protesting and reacted once anarchists (don’t even get me started on how the American black clad anarchist movement has zero understanding of what anarchy actually stands for, traditionally it was a labor movement) started their bs. Whoever in the rally organization signed off on this, might also be in some serious trouble. Total malfeasance and incompetence, led to the death of a sympathizer.


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    California is the largest sanctuary state in America.

    What does that mean?

    The Governor has ordered every single police department and sheriffs office to shield criminal illegal aliens from removal.

    In a normal state, when an illegal alien is arrested, they are run through a federal database. If it hits that they are illegal or deportable, ICE asks the police or sheriffs to turn them over to ICE when their incarceration is complete.

    In California, when ICE lodges this “detainer” it is refused and the criminal alien is released back onto the street to endlessly reoffend.

    California has more criminal aliens than any other state in the US, by far. And each and every one of them can victimize Americans freely knowing they will never by turned over by authorities to ICE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cisco Kid View Post
    My guess is that whoever choreographed the parade and it was highly choreographed didnt want it to look too much like a commie parade
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    June 15, 2025 (Sunday)

    Yesterday began with the horrific news that a gunman had shot two Minnesota lawmakers and their spouses in what Minnesota governor Tim Walz said appeared to be a “politically motivated assassination.” State representative Melissa Hortman, who was the top Democrat in the Minnesota House, and her husband, Mark, both died in the attack at their home in Brooklyn Park, a city near Minneapolis. The gunman also shot Democratic Minnesota state senator John Hoffman nine times and his wife, Yvette, eight at their home in Champlin. The hospital reports they are in stable condition after surgery.

    Law enforcement officers encountered the suspected gunman, 57-year-old Vance Boelter, coming out of Hortman’s house. He was dressed as a police officer. Officers exchanged gunfire with him before he fled, leaving behind his vehicle, which looked much like a police car. In it was a list of dozens of people he wanted to kill. They were mostly Democrats or people connected to abortion rights efforts. Law enforcement officers captured Boelter tonight.

    MAGA Republicans are working hard to identify Boelter with what Senator Mike Lee (R-UT) called “Marxism” and Senator Bernie Moreno (R-OH) called “the extreme left,” but as investigative journalist Phil Williams of NewsChannel 5 Nashville notes, public databases show Boelter was in the past a registered Republican. His evangelical religion and his anti-LGBTQ and anti-abortion stances reflect MAGA positions. Boelter’s roommate told reporters that Boelter was a “strong” supporter of President Trump.

    Senator Chris Murphy (D-CT) noted that MAGA has been “bathed in political violence” for the last five years. Trump’s pardoning of the January 6 rioters, including those convicted of extreme violence, “became a clear endorsement of violence committed in his name.” Trump has encouraged violence and cozied up to brutal dictators, while MAGA has fetishized guns. When he celebrates violence, unhinged people listen. Murphy points out that while people of all political persuasions commit violence, no Democratic leader encourages violence as a political norm the way Trump and MAGA have done, citing “a straight line from Jan 6 to the pardons to the assault on Sen[ator] Padilla to Minnesota.”

    After the shootings, Andrew Solender of Axios reported that lawmakers of both parties are concerned about their own safety as political violence increases. The Minnesota attacks happened just days after Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem’s security guard shoved Senator Alex Padilla (D-CA) to the ground and handcuffed him after he asked a question. This assault sparked apparent fury among the Democrats on Capitol Hill as they challenged their Republican colleagues—largely unsuccessfully—to speak up against the assault on a senator.

    The entire Minnesota delegation to the U.S. Congress issued a joint statement on politically motivated shootings. Democrats and Republicans together wrote: “Today we speak with one voice to express our outrage, grief, and condemnation of this horrible attack on public servants. There is no place in our democracy for politically-motivated violence. We are praying for John and Yvette’s recovery and we grieve the loss of Melissa and Mark with their family, colleagues, and Minnesotans across the state. We are grateful for law enforcement’s swift response to the situation and continued efforts.”

    After that start to the day, the country turned to the “No Kings” protests. In a dramatic rejection of Trump’s consolidation of power, at least five million Americans turned out for peaceful protests across the country. Cities turned out huge numbers of protesters at more than 2,000 planned events, and small towns, including those in Republican-dominated states, also boasted rallies. The mood was festive as people held signs with anti-Trump and pro-American images and slogans and sang Woody Guthrie’s famous American anthem, “This Land Is Your Land.” American flags were everywhere.

    In contrast to the huge turnout for the protests, the military parade in Washington, D.C., was a bust. Although Trump had claimed it would be a celebration of the 250th anniversary of the American Army, it was also his 79th birthday and was widely interpreted primarily as a celebration of that occasion. Trump has wanted a parade since 2017, when he viewed the traditional Bastille Day military parade in Paris. At the time, he told reporters: “It was one of the greatest parades I’ve ever seen…. We’re going to have to try to top it.”

    But organizers had had only two months to arrange for the parade, and the result was badly organized, with relatively few people turning out, especially after forecasts of storms that evening. Far from the crisp marching of the military parades that Trump seemed to want to top, the U.S. soldiers appeared to shuffle, leading to a social media debate over whether they had been ordered to march in an “at ease march” instead of a more rigorous step, or whether they were silently protesting. Photographers recorded empty bleachers and thin crowds. Few Republican lawmakers attended, but cameras caught Trump looking miserable and Secretary of State Marco Rubio yawning.

    The contrast between the protests and the military parade suggested an important shift in political culture. The momentum and the joy, as well as the American flags, were on the side of those protesting Trump’s growing authoritarianism. Trump looked weak and discouraged, and the crowds were clearly on the side of the protesters. Today, social media, including a Russian account, got into the act of making fun of Trump's military parade.

    At the Philadelphia Inquirer, Will Bunch noted that “the flag is mightier than the tank.”

    The rejection Trump faced yesterday, podcaster Jack Hopkins noted, “was a big tub of rock salt poured on his wounds of lifelong insecurity.” That profound injury to Trump’s sense of self braced observers for a lashing out of epic proportions as he tries to demonstrate that he is, in fact, powerful.

    We got that anger and fear in a social media post at 8:43 p.m. tonight. In a post almost certainly not written by Trump, his account backed off on Trump’s recent retreat from mass deportations. Instead, the account said “ICE Officers are herewith ordered, by notice of this TRUTH, to do all in their power to achieve the very important goal of delivering the single largest Mass Deportation Program in History.”

    The account then declared war on Democrats. The day after a gunman shot two Democratic lawmakers and their spouses in their homes, Trump’s account posted:

    “[W]e must expand efforts to detain and deport Illegal Aliens in America’s largest Cities, such as Los Angeles, Chicago, and New York, where Millions upon Millions of Illegal Aliens reside. These, and other such Cities, are the core of the Democrat Power Center, where they use Illegal Aliens to expand their Voter Base, cheat in Elections, and grow the Welfare State, robbing good paying Jobs and Benefits from Hardworking American Citizens. These Radical Left Democrats are sick of mind, hate our Country, and actually want to destroy our Inner Cities—And they are doing a good job of it! There is something wrong with them. That is why they believe in Open Borders, Transgender for Everybody, and Men playing in Women’s Sports—And that is why I want ICE, Border Patrol, and our Great and Patriotic Law Enforcement Officers, to FOCUS on our crime ridden and deadly Inner Cities, and those places where Sanctuary Cities play such a big role. You don’t hear about Sanctuary Cities in our Heartland!”

    The post promised ICE that “REAL Americans are cheering you on every day” and urged them to “reverse the tide of Mass Destruction Migration that has turned once Idyllic Towns into scenes of Third World Dystopia.” It doubled down on the neo-Nazi idea of “REMIGRATION” and concluded: “To ICE, FBI, DEA, ATF, the Patriots at Pentagon and the State Department, you have my unwavering support. Now go, GET THE JOB DONE! DJT”

    Will Trump’s demands swing people behind him? Americans have already turned against Trump’s handling of immigration and deportations by significant margins. G. Elliott Morris of Strength in Numbers summarized the polls from June 9–13. Answering the question “Do you approve of the way the president is handling…immigration?” respondents for YouGov/Economist were the only ones to produce a majority—of just four points—saying yes. For AP-NORC, Quinnipiac, and Washington Post/GMU, the answer was no by as much as 15 points. On every other question dealing with immigration, more people opposed Trump’s policies than supported them by as much as 16 points.

    Trump’s other policies are underwater—meaning more people oppose them than approve of them—as well. Only 27% of registered voters support the Republicans’ budget reconciliation bill, while 53% oppose it. As for Trump himself, a Quinnipiac Poll from June 11 showed that 38% of registered voters approve of the way he is handling the job of the presidency, while 54% disapprove. Only 30% of registered voters approved “strongly” of the way he is handling the job, while 49% strongly disapprove.

    While Trump and his loyalists are trying to project an image of invincibility, their actual power seems to be faltering.

    Ten years ago tomorrow, on June 16, 2015, Trump rode down the escalator at Trump Tower to a lobby filled with extras, to announce he was running for president. One reporter called his speech, in which he claimed that Mexico was sending criminals and rapists to the United States, "eccentric."
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkiCougar View Post
    California is the largest sanctuary state in America. What does that mean? The Governor has ordered every single police department and sheriffs office to shield criminal illegal aliens from removal.
    Are you suggesting the Governor is enforcing state law (Senate Bill 54), or that he is going above and beyond?

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    Is anyone surprised his beautiful parade was overshadowed by news of other things going on in the world? No one took it seriously except the unfortunate military folks, who were required to perform for the empty suit Commander in Chief. Wouldn’t you love to be a fly on the wall to hear how proud they were to be dancing for this fool amid actual problems they could be addressing in the US and the world?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcski View Post
    Once you get it, can your kids then use you as their in? What about spouses? Any idea?

    Its not automatic as far as the kids and spouse, theres residency requirements etc., but theoretically it helps. But when I get it done it allows us to establish a beachhead there as far as bank accounts, a place to live (whether buy or rent) etc. which makes the other stuff much easier to accomplish. In theory.

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    Pathetic. I cant leave this mess to my grand kids kids. But YVMV.
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    You could have entered a raffle and won a house in Ireland like this fine lady.

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    From Alt National Parks page:

    We’re honored to announce a final count of 13.14 million in attendance across 2,300+ No Kings protests nationwide. It took a little longer to finalize due to the sheer scale, but the turnout was historic!

    So far, 71 MAGA agitators have been arrested, with 62 additional investigations still underway. We’re actively reviewing online threats and working on escalating where needed. If you see something, say something.
    When you see something that is not right, not just, not fair, you have a moral obligation to say something. To do something." Rep. John Lewis


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    Quote Originally Posted by KQ View Post
    From Alt National Parks page: We’re honored to announce a final count of 13.14 million in attendance across 2,300+ No Kings protests nationwide. It took a little longer to finalize due to the sheer scale, but the turnout was historic! So far, 71 MAGA agitators have been arrested, with 62 additional investigations still underway. We’re actively reviewing online threats and working on escalating where needed. If you see something, say something.
    3.8% of the entire population - that's impressive...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cisco Kid View Post
    Pathetic. I cant leave this mess to my grand kids kids. But YVMV.
    Ihave no plans to go anywhere. And no grandkids either btw. I think it would be stupid to simply leave options on the table when no one knows what the fuck is gonna happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skaredshtles View Post
    3.8% of the entire population - that's impressive...
    It's wrong. Please do not rely on the alt parks account.

    Beat estimates are 4-6 million. Which is still impressive.

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    This Saturday June 14

    Four to six million is a severe undercount. Elevan or more might be a stretch, but hard to believe based on all the crowd sizes across the country it sure looked like easily surpassed six mil

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