Ukraine

[KQ]

Elon Musk posted on X today that General John F. Kelly is a traitor for posting that the US must stand by Ukraine

[RTsucks]

"If anyone ever hits a man it was Pelosi who did it you twat. I had a relative who sucked hitler's dick. I've got the picture and jerk off to it. Only thing that gets me through the day" - Cono Este

[MultiVerse]

Elon Musk posted on X today that General John F. Kelly is a traitor for posting that the US must stand by Ukraine

"Why is a White House official, that's not even elected, why is that person belittling the Polish foreign minister? It's not appropriate. It's not right. We need more discipline in the White House." -- GOP Rep. Don Bacon

[Harry]

Elon Musk posted on X today that General John F. Kelly is a traitor for posting that the US must stand by Ukraine

^^ Fuck musk.

This needs to be remembered:

”On November 9, 2010, Kelly's 29-year-old son, First Lieutenant Robert Michael Kelly, was killed in action when he stepped on a land mine while leading a platoon of Marines on a patrol in Sangin, Afghanistan.
The younger Kelly was a former enlisted Marine and was on his third combat tour, his first combat tour. At the time of his death, Robert Kelly was with Lima Company, 3rd Battalion, 5th Marines.
Robert Kelly's death made John Kelly the highest-ranking American military officer to lose a child in Iraq or Afghanistan.

[xyz]

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Stop with your hyperbole and converse like an adult. English is our official language now.

What’s your solution to the Ukraine conflict? Besides orange man is bad.

[J. Barron DeJong]

To not fucking knee-cap the good guys, so that they are in the strongest possible negotiating position when they decide they are ready.

[RTsucks]

There is only one solution. Ukraine wins. Putin doesn't recognize Ukraine as a real nation, one with a history independent of russia. It's binary. Because of putin. And now america apparently.

[xyz]

To not fucking knee-cap the good guys, so that they are in the strongest possible negotiating position when they decide they are ready.

Ok. So what are you suggesting to do that, specifically.

[Cisco Kid]

Bomb the shit out of what RUS needs to supply the front and fight the war, duh.

[J. Barron DeJong]

Ok. So what are you suggesting to do that, specifically.

Give Ukraine all the support they ask for. Let them decide when, and on what terms, to negotiate an end to the war.

[xyz]

Give Ukraine all the support they ask for. Let them decide when, and on what terms, to negotiate an end to the war.

So the same support as the last first few years under Biden?

[Rideski]

I wonder if elmo will go the way of mcafee

[jono]

I wonder if elmo will go the way of mcafee

Trump could shoot Musk in the middle of 5th Avenue and nothing would fundamentally change.

[J. Barron DeJong]

Now that Ukraines capacity to fight is being hindered, Russia is no longer interested in a ceasefire. Who could have predicted....:

On Kremlin TV, Putin intimate Solov'yov says Russia so encouraged by Trump taking their side no longer see need for ceasefire. "No, there won’t be any ceasefire. Our idea of peace is everything happening as we see fit” Then plays a clip of Vance slamming Ukraine. Vance is "our man" he says.

https://bsky.app/profile/denisedwhee.../3lk2wjkodis2r

[jono]

Who would ever imagine that saying we'd resume intelligence sharing when Russia agrees to talks might mean Russia never agreed to anything?

Kakistocracy gonna kak? Or agent Krasnov hard at work?

[J. Barron DeJong]

So the same support as the last first few years under Biden?

Sure, or more if there's more to offer.

[LongShortLong]

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So the same support as the last first few years under Biden?

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More. And with massive future commitments. Russia doesn&#39;t care about words, they respect force. Show force or lose.</p>
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Stop playing financial games and actually send $100B in aid this year, and the next, and the next. Send more sooner if you want it to end sooner. Surely 100B annually for a few years is a wise defense expenditure to take Russia off the playing field for a few decades. And no limits on usage. If Ukraine needs to sack Moscow to make it end, let them.</p>

[xyz]

Sure, or more if there's more to offer.

Biden level support and sanctions got us to where we are now; Russia advancing the front line and a million dead. So in your world they more, right? The critical path for Ukraine is troops. So by more are you in favour of western troops on the ground?

[Meconium]

Yes

[Harry]

Biden level support and sanctions got us to where we are now; Russia advancing the front line and a million dead. So in your world they more, right? The critical path for Ukraine is troops. So by more are you in favour of western troops on the ground?

In what world is Russia winning? (Three) years ago Russian troops were within (ten) miles of Kiev, now they are hundreds of miles away.

And as far as anything recent, in the past (twelve) months the front has been essentially stationary, Russia has only moved the front by 0.57 percent of Ukrainian territory in the past 12 months.

Russia is not winning. Trump is a coward and a traitor.

[Cono Este]

Peace talks today.

Try not to let it ruin your day?

[Bunion 2020]

Trump could shoot Musk in the middle of 5th Avenue and nothing would fundamentally change.

I don't believe that and we must test the hypothesis.

[xyz]

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Do you include yourself in that support? If you’re asking others to the front line isn’t it fair that you join as well? You’re just as qualified to fight as the kid being snatched off the street and sent to the front.


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[The Nuclear Option]

Biden level support and sanctions got us to where we are now; Russia advancing the front line and a million dead. So in your world they more, right? The critical path for Ukraine is troops. So by more are you in favour of western troops on the ground?

OK Neville

[J. Barron DeJong]

Do you include yourself in that support? If you&rsquo;re asking others to the front line isn&rsquo;t it fair that you join as well? You&rsquo;re just as qualified to fight as the kid being snatched off the street and sent to the front. Sent from my iPhone using [emoji638]][emoji640][emoji640]][emoji640][emoji638][emoji638][emoji638]]TGR Forums

You are acting like we are forcing this war on Ukraine, that we are making them take our weapons and use them to fight.
They are asking for weapons! They are asking us to help them fight for their countrys survival!