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    Asked this in a padded room thread but it seems like I should ask in here too. Just moved in with the GF and she has a Peloton bike, so now have access to the bike and app. What should I start on? Any tips? My goals aren't specific, just want to get more fit.
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    My chain is loud. I haven't ever had this issue before, and I don't know how to fix it. I cleaned it, bought different lubes, checked the stretch, small differences have been noted but nothing has fixed the issue.

    I'll be the first to admit I'm bad at maintenance, but I have lubed this chain more than any of the others (almost every ride even!) and of course it's the one with issues. Its one of those new AXS drive trains on a high pivot bike, Sram chain has a flat top, is black. Still shifts smooth, but I considered that the shop guy used the wrong tool to measure the chain stretch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danno View Post
    Asked this in a padded room thread but it seems like I should ask in here too. Just moved in with the GF and she has a Peloton bike, so now have access to the bike and app. What should I start on? Any tips? My goals aren't specific, just want to get more fit.
    The power zone rides are really good IME. I tend to do a mix of the endurance rides with the max rides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukonrider View Post
    My chain is loud. I haven't ever had this issue before, and I don't know how to fix it. I cleaned it, bought different lubes, checked the stretch, small differences have been noted but nothing has fixed the issue.

    I'll be the first to admit I'm bad at maintenance, but I have lubed this chain more than any of the others (almost every ride even!) and of course it's the one with issues. Its one of those new AXS drive trains on a high pivot bike, Sram chain has a flat top, is black. Still shifts smooth, but I considered that the shop guy used the wrong tool to measure the chain stretch?
    High pivot bikes are generally noisier. Is the noise squeaking? Clicking? General chain rumbling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukonrider View Post
    My chain is loud. I haven't ever had this issue before, and I don't know how to fix it. I cleaned it, bought different lubes, checked the stretch, small differences have been noted but nothing has fixed the issue.

    I'll be the first to admit I'm bad at maintenance, but I have lubed this chain more than any of the others (almost every ride even!) and of course it's the one with issues. Its one of those new AXS drive trains on a high pivot bike, Sram chain has a flat top, is black. Still shifts smooth, but I considered that the shop guy used the wrong tool to measure the chain stretch?
    Unless it's super wet where you ride, lubing every ride sounds excessive. That's probably attracting more grit and making your drivetrain noisy.

    I would clean the chain thoroughly, lube it again, and wipe off excess lube.

    Regarding chain wear, tools like Pedro's Chain Checker Plus II are going to be most accurate because they isolate pin and roller wear. Handy to have one so you can check it yourself.

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    A general chain grumbling, worse under power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukonrider View Post
    A general chain grumbling, worse under power.
    Might need to replace your idler pulley; those definitely wear out, sometimes quickly.

    Worn chainring could also be a culprit.

    Could be dirt and grit in the chain. Pop the chain off and soak it in mineral spirits or kerosene. Dry, then relube.

    Unless you're using a heavier wet lube, I'd definitely be lubing that thing every ride. Particularly for the high pivot, I'll sometimes lube twice a ride if it's a longer ride.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Danno View Post
    Asked this in a padded room thread but it seems like I should ask in here too. Just moved in with the GF and she has a Peloton bike, so now have access to the bike and app. What should I start on? Any tips? My goals aren&#39;t specific, just want to get more fit.
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    I don&#39;t have Peloton, but if I remember correctly from some of my athletes the &quot;Matt Wilpers - Endurance Rides&quot; are some of the better ones for general Zone 2 riding.&nbsp;</p>
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    Was gonna suggest worn chainring if it&#39;s grinding, especially more under power.

    Quote Originally Posted by toast2266 View Post
    Might need to replace your idler pulley; those definitely wear out, sometimes quickly. Worn chainring could also be a culprit. Could be dirt and grit in the chain. Pop the chain off and soak it in mineral spirits or kerosene. Dry, then relube. Unless you&#39;re using a heavier wet lube, I&#39;d definitely be lubing that thing every ride. Particularly for the high pivot, I&#39;ll sometimes lube twice a ride if it&#39;s a longer ride. Sent from my SM-S901U using Tapatalk
    For real? This is crazy to me but I&#39;ve never owned a high pivot. I&#39;ve only had to lube mid ride once or twice in my life and it was due to mud. Generally get 50ish trail miles on a lube at least.
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    I will say the high pivot def gets loud much faster than any of my non high pivot bikes, hence my switch to lubing before every ride (unless I forget). The drivetrain has about 700 miles on it, so I would guess chain ring isn't worn enough, but who knows. Going to do a shop clean of the chain and get a checker

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    Quote Originally Posted by beaterdit View Post
    For real? This is crazy to me but I've never owned a high pivot. I've only had to lube mid ride once or twice in my life and it was due to mud. Generally get 50ish trail miles on a lube at least.
    Depends on the lube, of course. I usually go with something pretty light (normally dumond light) which doesn't last particularly long. But I'd say the high pivot gets dry almost twice as fast as regular bikes. It starts to feel like it wants lube after 2500 - 3000 vert of climbing. Some of that is probably that a slightly dry chain is much more noticeable with the idler. Starts to feel pretty draggy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukonrider View Post
    I will say the high pivot def gets loud much faster than any of my non high pivot bikes, hence my switch to lubing before every ride (unless I forget). The drivetrain has about 700 miles on it, so I would guess chain ring isn&#39;t worn enough, but who knows. Going to do a shop clean of the chain and get a checker
    Chainring def shouldn&#39;t be worn out and neither should your chain. Might be the pulley? Def get the Park CC 4.2 chain checker. Dont&#39; get the old one with the pins, it&#39;s innacurate and the pins can bend making it more innacurate.

    Quote Originally Posted by toast2266 View Post
    Depends on the lube, of course. I usually go with something pretty light (normally dumond light) which doesn&#39;t last particularly long. But I&#39;d say the high pivot gets dry almost twice as fast as regular bikes. It starts to feel like it wants lube after 2500 - 3000 vert of climbing. Some of that is probably that a slightly dry chain is much more noticeable with the idler. Starts to feel pretty draggy. Sent from my SM-S901U using Tapatalk
    I can see that it wold be much more noticable. I wouldnt like the extra maintanance but I guess the ride is worth it? Don&#39;t even wanna try lest I be tempted to buy hahaha. I guess I run a medium lube, SCC Slick, like it a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beaterdit View Post

    I can see that it wold be much more noticable. I wouldnt like the extra maintanance but I guess the ride is worth it? Don't even wanna try lest I be tempted to buy hahaha. I guess I run a medium lube, SCC Slick, like it a lot.
    Personally, I wouldn't bother with a high pivot for any bike that's not mostly downhill oriented. Meaning a dh bike, or an enduro bike that sees a lot of shuttle and lift use. They eat chunder impressively well, but the extra weight, complexity, drag, and maintenance doesn't really pencil out on any bike that's not a proper sled, at least for me.

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    Gotcha, good to know. I don't need any more maintenance in my life but have been curious.I watch Dale Stone's videos sometimes, he's totally sold and believes it's better than more travel. Like he runs a shorter travel bike now, and is faster on it?IDK, really happy with my current bike and don't really feel the need to change anything.
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    My son just got a new to him Evil Offering with a We Are One wheelset that needs a little TLC in sports. Two spokes on the rear wheel are loose, I assume I need to pull the tire and tape to get at the nipples? Would I be worth using some lock-tite on the offending spokes while I'm in there? I've never messed around with the WAO stuff before. I usually don't like thread lock on my spokes, but these super stiff rims look like they might be able to use it + the spokes have a flat spot to stop them from winding up if you
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    No, definitely no loctite on nipples. As long as the spokes are intact/not broken/not bent, you can leave the tire and tape on. If it was my wheel, I'd start by checking tension on several other spokes, bringing the loose ones up to that tension, then putting it in the truing stand to true it. If the spoke have a flat spot, it sounds like they're bladed so you'll need a bladed spoke holder in addition to the usual nipple key.

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    Whelp, I pulled the wheel off and looked at it and it's using a i9 straight pull hub, and the loose spokes are broken at the head, so I have to track those down. Always something new.
    At least they use a normal spoke wrench.....
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    I-nine is great to work with, they should have replacement spokes on their site, or just call em up.


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    And DEFINITELY no locktite on I9 system wheels.
    They are aluminum spokes and you need to use boiled linseed oil on the threads.
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    I used to petro lube before every ride but with squirt I lube AFTER every 3 rides






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    As your main bike, rocky mountains, some short overnights and some rides of a little more distance, a race or 2, so basically all around bike would you pick a SB130 ( don't think i can swing the new SB140) or a Hightower?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandbox View Post
    As your main bike, rocky mountains, some short overnights and some rides of a little more distance, a race or 2, so basically all around bike would you pick a SB130 ( don't think i can swing the new SB140) or a Hightower?
    I haven’t ridden the SB130 but the HT is not light nor does it feel super efficient. What it is, is very comfortable and versatile with lots of traction. Between the two I would probably pick the SB130 based purely on the range of rides you listed, but if I had dentist money I’d be giving that new Pivot Trailcat series a serious hard look.
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    Switch infinity goes up and down really well ime but having said that I like VPP of the santa cruz more so IME IMO you should demo
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    Well, digging into the i9 wheel issue some more, the previous owner replaced the OG rim tape with gorilla tape at some point, and should have done another layer or two.. anyways the sealant got into the rim and corroded all the spoke heads into to nothing-ness. Ugh, if it had been regular spokes it would have been $24 worth on new nipples and an hour or two of time. These fuckers are $7 a piece.</p>
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