going nordic = going ghay?

[plugboots]

Any favorites for 20 degree weather jackets? I got a Dhaehlie Power Jacket for X-mas, but the fit is pretty restricting even on my relatively thin build. It's a combo of softshell and some light chest insulation.

That's prolly exactly what I'd wear for 20º, with a non-cotton t-shirt and a lightweight fleece under. Colder than that, I just wear a thicker fleece. Maybe wear a vest over till you're warmed up, or a thin nylon jacket over, until you warm up?

[romeo tango]

at 20F, the homeboys in Anchorage skate in t-shirts
if you want to look fabulous, wear something skin-tight
otherwise, I got nothin'

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[andy m]

Jessie finishes third in the Tour de Ski! She is still first overall in World Cup standings.

[buttahflake]

I’ve been watching Tour de Ski all week, incredible skiing on display in the beautiful Dolomites.
Today was firm and fast, things are starting to really click again. Such a crazy hard sport, when the balance and the timing come together, that feels nice. The Rossi’s are especially good when it’s firm.




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[romeo tango]

dorked a bit at Marshall Lake XC trail system outside Grand Forks BC.
Wide, cat-groomed trails with lots of up and down.

[Peruvian]

We went mid-weight today.

[buttahflake]

Nice g! Perfect winter day in Vermont. The addition of the snowmaking at Woodstock Nordic is making a huge difference. The cutoff between northern Vermont and southern Vermont is stark, way less snow south of Killington.
Lots of folks out today enjoying near perfect weather and conditions.

[buttahflake]

It’s nice having an actual winter!
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[buttahflake]

The addiction is real
From today in Woodstock VT

[plugboots]

1/200th of the kms.

[Thaleia]

Question for the home waxing people who wax every outing or so and tailor it to the expected temperature - what are you using? Traditional wax with an iron, rub on or..?

Any recommendations?

[teledad]

Used to iron/scrape/brush glide wax every time. But the spray on wax is so easy - that’s all I use now unless I’m going for a long skate (over [emoji638] hours). The iron in wax seems to last a bit longer.

Kick wax is still the same stuff I’ve been using for decades. I don’t bother with klister - if it’s warm I skate or use skin skis.

[romeo tango]

for kick and glide, lots of purple swix this season
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[brutah]

Great question!

I’ve been waxing every couple of outings or more if temps change drastically. I don’t really care to much but it certainly sucks when the wax is wrong skate skiing.

I was actually wondering as I waxed my skis last time if people base grind their skate skis?
Mine have a few minor scratches and no base structure so I was wondering…..


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[bobz]

Skate skis and tips'n'tails on stride skis, I try to hot wax every other outing or so.

For kick wax, I prep the skis' kick zones by rubbing in some green special and then ironing that in. Rubbing & corking the blue extra or whatever the day calls for goes on nicely when the mid-ski base has been prepped in advance with a cold kick wax. As with teledad, if it isn't a blue or a maybe-blue-maybe-purple (and ends up being purple) kind of day, I'll use something other than kick-wax stride skis (I have all sorts of klister in a drawer purchased decades ago that I never use).

[buttahflake]

Yes grinding skate skis makes a huge difference. The stickers on the tops of my skis indicate different grinds for different conditions. I’m lucky one of the best Nordic techs in the country is ten miles away from my garage!
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[Thaleia]

Thanks guys. Time to up my xc wax game. I've been using the same can of generic rub on paste for longer than I want to admit.

EDIT - One hopefully last question - on wax less skis with a fish scale glide zone is there any purpose to waxing that area? On my last outing it was warmer and snow was sticking really bad underfoot.

[John_B]

Thanks guys. Time to up my xc wax game. I've been using the same can of generic rub on paste for longer than I want to admit.

I've been using Vauhti liquid wax this year and have been pretty pleased with it. It has a wider listed temp range than Swix CH wax and there is no scraping involved just hitting the bases with a nylon brush after waiting 10-20 minutes for the wax to dry. I'm sure it isn't the best possible glide but damn is it convenient.

[plugboots]

Thanks guys. Time to up my xc wax game. I've been using the same can of generic rub on paste for longer than I want to admit.

EDIT - One hopefully last question - on wax less skis with a fish scale glide zone is there any purpose to waxing that area? On my last outing it was warmer and snow was sticking really bad underfoot.

We put on one of those liquid waxes in that area

[buttahflake]

Cold Cold Cold, we haven’t had a consistently cold winter in a long time, just wish it would snow more!
Single digits in Vermont today.

[Meconium]

Rode endurance wax last long and typically quick. Mix with

[XXX-er]

Question for the home waxing people who wax every outing or so and tailor it to the expected temperature - what are you using? Traditional wax with an iron, rub on or..?

Any recommendations?

all your bases are belong to us



just the waxes according to how they are rated according to the temp of snow,

but serioulsy what you can do is look at your bases, the condition of your bases will tell you, if the bases ( even black p-tex) get whitish its time to wax, so on a skate ski i would expect that on the inside area under the boot to get whitish 1st, in hard icy conditons the wax will be worn out of that area under the boot first

a new ski that has not been waxed much will show that whitish base sooner than a ski that has been waxed a lot so you need to wax new skis > old skis

so you don't need to wax every time but look at your bases and decide

having wanked about with shitty irons clothes irons its worth your while to get a half decent waxing iron,

you don't nee a toko t-12 with digital readout but it is nice IME

[buttahflake]

Cold and Blue
Had a nice breakthrough today, I’ve been watching a shit-ton of skate skiing on YouTube.



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[Meconium]

Link the skate video that helped you the most. Nordic ski lab is sometimes okay but it bugs me

[buttahflake]

This very old video does a very good job of explaining V2, landing on a flat ski and a bent knee, standing and getting tall before loading up for the push off.

https://youtu.be/M0zO1mJt1dY?si=D7aamzISBeFowoeR