Tahoe '24/'25 - This Thread Shall Not Be Privatized!!

[SnowMachine]

had a fun day yesterday at dsr. took some backroads to avoid the I80 traffic.

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I took a look over there when I was headed into SB and figured it was the pro move. Glad you got the goods.

[SnowMachine]

Disney was tracked out by 9. Not sure exactly when the started loading lifts but Jerome was loading at 830 although nobody seemed to catch on. I bailed around noon when the hike uphill to the end of the singles line coming back from the west side of Disney got too long. They had an employee out on DPR trying to direct traffic to available parking (not sure if there was any.)

Interesting contrast in snow depending on aspect. East--a little heavy, no bottom if you stayed away from the bumps. West, shallower but wind buffed enough to not hit bottom. North--lighter, more hitting bottom. Light dry powder is not always the best. (Just usually.)

It was really quickly sun affected, too. We hiked Summit and got that north facing snow just after lunch. It was a lot of fun, but it was heavy.

The stuff in the shade was still fun today. Almost chalky. Lots of scraped off sections, but no real surprises. The groomers were soft and fun. Even the bumps were nice and soft.

[~mikey b]

Sunrise Bowl was great at sunrise

[J. Barron DeJong]

They had an employee out on DPR trying to direct traffic to available parking (not sure if there was any.)

There was no parking. Left Glenshire a little after 9:00 with the kid. Traffic was backed up way down old 40 when we got there. By the time we made it to the turn-off towards Judah side they weren’t letting anyone head down the road, not even to drop off.

[old goat]

BTW--whoever picked the music at the SB lodge Saturday morning should get a grammy--they were playing old dead blues guys, some of them died before I was born (ie really old).

So the Palisades parking reservation system has moved the traffic jam to Donner Pass Rd. Great.

[Hart Gremlin]

Great day up at PT-Olympic Valley on Saturday. I spent most of the day lapping West Face as it seems I lost my phone over there. Navy Blue rubber case, light blue plastic. It could be a lost cause till spring due to the depth of the snow. Goodtimes! The folks at lost and found seem to handle this regularly...If found please take to tram building.

[TahoeJ]

So the Palisades parking reservation system has moved the traffic jam to Donner Pass Rd. Great.

Shout out to everyone who was saying the parking reservations improved traffic last year. Yeah, because we didn't get any real snow until after the major holiday weeks...

Meanwhile, check out Josh D doing Josh D things...

[parkmeister]

I took a look over there when I was headed into SB and figured it was the pro move. Glad you got the goods.

i could see SB across the way and although i already knew the deal, it was shocking to see how fast the powder disappeared. it looked like straight up mogul fields everywhere on the mtn by 10:00am ??????

it was a good, make that really good day at dsr. i even got freshies on the drive up!

[Dark Energy]

Had fun in the snow, rain and the sun the past two weeks.
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Got to ski with my kids, including the dentist in training, in some nice pow at SB pre-blackout.
Skied in the rain a few days at OV. Too wet to take out the phone, but my objective report is that KT is fantastic regardless of the atmospheric conditions.

Ended up on Shasta (Green Butte) for a powder day. Started with it snowing heavily, but then the Lemurians uncovered the hill for a picture about 2:00 p.m., before they decided to cover it back up. Nice vibe with less than 10 skiers/split boarders starting from Bunny Flats.

Buddy told me it was mayhem in the parking lot at 8:30 a.m., at SB on Saturday. So trekked over to that secret spot on the westshore named after the fateful river crossed by Julius Ceasar. Wow, earning turns is very popular. Can only describe the top 200 vert. foot mogul field as "packed powder" by the time I got up there. Started from 89, and other than maybe the snow from the day prior, there was minimal coverage from lake level up to about 6,700 ft. Equisiqute timber bashing and class III willow action. That said, above 7,200 ft., it was fast pow on top of a supportable rain crust. Even in the late afternoon was able to ski without crossing tracks going far skier's right, but I did end up in some heinous willows.

Made turns off the side of Lincoln and Judah Sunday, including the $ run. Some soft patches still to be found in the shade, but overall the side-country was schralped.

[skier666]

Great weekend SKIING at PTOV. Ice on the steeps.

The drive up on Friday night was going 'oh so well' until I hit Baxter...then 80 closed for 3 hours. Good thing Dad is prepared with a full tank, snacks and a personal hotspot lol.

Saturday - got in KT line at 8:20am. Big debate with a buddy of mine was where we line up for Peak to Peak instead? Hmmmmm...we weren't that far back in singles line so stayed put. I rolled East Face (tracked) to East Face Cliffs down toward Oly Lady (untracked). Hitting bottom but also pretty deep. I got a bit worried at the roll over after a strong turn that the whole face may rip, so pulled away for a second but all was good. 2nd lap we b-lined to Peak to Peak and skied right side of Chute 75 to line up for Headwall. Chute 75 was scary icy in spots. Most of the Slot, Headwall Face slid down to the ice so I hippy skied a powder ribbon right of the Slot and took it to Red Dog (typical reverse commute style). They only had the glade gate open but only a handful of tracks under the lift on the spines. Ultimately, the spines were bullet underneath but if untracked you could slarve some pow turns and it became manageable. Rest of the day was spent on KT and Red Dog...even the trees to Far East were good cold smoke fun (given the crowds on the upper mountain).

Sunday - poked around the sunny aspects in the early AM with some quality turns on McConkey's shoulder, Nose, Alternates, etc. Red Dog upper gate was now open and the steep shot between Resort and Red Dog was ridiculously good. Played around there for most of my half day with a top to bottom Headwall lap into Cornice Bowl (wintry untracked pockets) with my youngest.

Left parking lot at 12:55pm, driveway in SF at 4:45pm

[TahoeBC]

On top of high pressure and east winds now we have to deal with snow spiders

[climberevan]

House/cat sitter wanted 16 Feb-4 Mar near Carson City (at the bottom of Hwy 50).

We'll be out of town for a few weeks and would love for someone nice to look after our cat. She needs almost nothing (just some playtime and water fills every few days), as her food is automated. She goes outside to poop.

The house is 2br + office and fairly nice with a fantastic kitchen & ridiculous sound system with a projector & 110" screen. There are really great running/MTB trails 1/4 mile away and a small granite crag less than a mile away. Skiing is obviously the main draw in the winter; Heavenly is 35 mins, Rose is 50 mins from the door.

If this is of interest to anyone, send me a PM. There is also abundant flat space to park a van or whatever. We travel often so this could be a recurring gig. We know about Trusted Housesitters, but I'd rather help a mag if I can. To be clear I'm not proposing paying anyone, just offering a sweet pad in a great location.

[lepistoir]

Look folks, ski areas are going to be less about having fun on snow and more about real estate, local control, and labor struggles, simply because big investment groups have focused their wealth extraction apparatus on our mountains. It's spreading from Epic/Park City to Alterra and will be in Tahoe before too long. Get used to it.
https://x.com/liftblog/status/1876667392463650836?s=46

[hercule33]

Look folks, ski areas are going to be less about having fun on snow and more about real estate, local control, and labor struggles, simply because big investment groups have focused their wealth extraction apparatus on our mountains. It's spreading from Epic/Park City to Alterra and will be in Tahoe before too long. Get used to it.
https://x.com/liftblog/status/1876667392463650836?s=46

Lol, a few days of high pressure and we are talking about wealth extraction. People in all industries are tired of being underpaid when the social contract was broken 40 years ago (wages have not kept up with productivity) and now they are fighting back. The problem for the wealthy (including the investors in the ski industry) is that the problem has gotten so bad that the workers now have a lot of power because they have so little to lose relative to the gains. Ditto ski patrollers at Park City.

[frorider]

Some decent fresh pow turns this morning at Luther. Glad I brought a jacket, it was a cold ass wind.

[fomofo]

Look folks, ski areas are going to be less about having fun on snow and more about real estate, local control, and labor struggles, simply because big investment groups have focused their wealth extraction apparatus on our mountains. It's spreading from Epic/Park City to Alterra and will be in Tahoe before too long. Get used to it.
https://x.com/liftblog/status/1876667392463650836?s=46

There's always mellow backcountry, tele and cross country. When the aggravation outweighs the fun it's time to get far away from the madding crowd anyway.

On a different note, here's an interesting article on Tahoe area peak names...

https://tahoequarterly.com/outdoors/...brave-pioneers

[jackstraw]

I didn't know Squaw Peak was renamed also. Was wondering if that was going to happen.

[~mikey b]

walked up Judah this morning

the wind is off the hook

[jackstraw]

Yeah, look at the EC and temps. Roaring back there

[old goat]

I didn't know Squaw Peak was renamed also. Was wondering if that was going to happen.

I'm still trying to get used to Palisades and Khyv Peak and now I have to get used to Gulf of America. WTF.

[Mokomahonah]

Interesting article, but exchuse me it's Tinker knob, not Tinker's.

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[jackstraw]

I'm still trying to get used to Palisades and Khyv Peak and now I have to get used to Gulf of America. WTF.

Dump is going to bring back all the derogatory and misogynistic names.

Being a stoopid non-racist white guy I never saw and don't understand how "squaw" which means "women" became derogatory. I'm not questioning that it isn't, I just don't understand how it came about and when. Anyway....

I skiing Palisades fri, sat, sun. Looking forward to first turns of the year. Maybe make some kickturns down KT-22. Never knew that story... awesome, yet...umm...is that name going to get changed too?

[powdork]

It’s more specific to ‘woman’ and usually carried a derogatory or slur meaning. In early days in Massachusetts it didn’t necessarily have a negative connotation. But then we went west and apparently they got sensitive about all the genocide

you could google 'why is squaw offensive’ and become less stoopid.


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[~mikey b]

walked to the top of the country club late this morning on my light skis then swapped out and rolled around on my battle rig for the afternoon

I like being able to walk up the ski area and ride chairs and ski outta bounds and everything

[jackstraw]

It’s more specific to ‘woman’ and usually carried a derogatory or slur meaning. In early days in Massachusetts it didn’t necessarily have a negative connotation. But then we went west and apparently they got sensitive about all the genocide

you could google 'why is squaw offensive’ and become less stoopid.


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Yeah, maybe you're better at googling shit, but I'm not seeing a lot of concrete evidence of it being used in a derogatory way. Again. I'm not questioning that is wasn't used, but searching doesn't give specific evidence like other clearly racist words used with all nationalities. Regardless, the bottom line is if one Native American women is offended by it then it shouldn't be used.

I worked with Native Americans in Taos. Taos Pueblo has been there for a long long time, predating everyone else and it's still there. Not that this means jack shit, but I'd never heard the word squaw used by anyone and there was a lot of racism in Taos. The Spaniards were quite racist against the Native Americans. Shockingly they were racist against Mexicans as well. And of course the white Gringos. I was known as "güero" by the Spaniards and was once called "gring" which apparently was supposed to upset me, but it was deserved because I was fucking off at work. I've been called a "mick" and my favorite is "potao head".