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[DBdude]

I’m not sure one religious sect is more crazy than any other. It’s all about local groups. I have some friends who are 7th day and they’re not all hardcore about it. I didn’t even know that about them for years. My daughter is good friends with their kids. It’s fine.

My friend had snakes and speaking in tongues and women wearing scarves over their hair


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[riser4]

My friend had snakes and speaking in tongues and women wearing scarves over their hair


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Sounds Pentecostal to me.

[yeahman]

My daughter went with her best friend to all the friend's religious ed classes all through middle school and even some high school. Just because they wanted to hang out together and bestie's hyper-religious parents made their kid do the classes. My kid also went to church with them sometimes (Catholic). Anyway, the whole experience had zero impact on my daughter's beliefs. She was just along for the ride. Both her and her friend recognize that friend's parents are kind of nutso.

[Buzzworthy]

I went to church youth group weekly because my girlfriend was there and had no qualms about making out around back of the church. I didn’t pay attention to what they were saying but the group atmosphere with other friends was nice when growing up as an awkward teenager.

[fastfred]

Fred Christianity does not have a lot to offer unless you consider community

You don’t need an archaic myth that the Roman’s took over to learn to love thy neighbor and do good works

Like any organized power structure religion has created just as much evil as good and teaching that to a kid is important - even a 13 year old

Some where some time Danno’s daughter is going to be exposed to the phrase “Christ killer” and you narrow point of view on religion and culture would be a disservice to the young woman

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Was totally shit faced when I posted that post on friday night. But my feelings are what I wrote. These days I try to keep a pretty open mind about everyone's different beliefs in life whether political, religious, or just general thoughts about life. I see the positives of organized religion I also see the wacked stuff too.

As for a kid, let me give ya'll advice on raising kids, since I don't fucking have any. But you need to let kids do their thing, just like adults as long as they are not harming themselves or harming anyone else you need to leave them be.

My parents forced me to goto church, I hated it, knew it was a joke at age 12. Fought against it and played along and learned alot. I don't think I've been to any church in thirty years. My point is, I wasn't allowed to do shit that I wanted to do at times, so by 17, I moved out looked like a clown for the next ten years, nose rings, dyed hair, multiple earrings in each ear, and shitty tattoos. Maybe if they just let me do my thing when I was twelve I wouldn't have traveled down that road.

Fast forward, twelve step meetings, being told your going to die, all the fun stuff in life as you get old, friends who want to kill themselves, so I've started finding myself more spiritual. I see the good parts. I dig Joel Osteen and read his stuff daily, sure he's a piece of shit shyster of a billionaire but he gives me what I need.

[Mazderati]

Thirteen years old with agency. I'm guessing the response would be different if those words came out of your kid's mouth.

Feel good background noise vs normalized indoctrination. Tomato, tomato.

[XXX-er]

SO I went to my sons baptising into some wierd church (Soveriegn Grace ), i showed up and somebody ( I think his future BIL )sitting next to me had to prod me to keep me awake cuz I was somewhat messed up from a dance party down town until like 3 am with some med students who were blowing off steam

but that morning I noticed the very attractive young woman sitting next to my son whom i had never seen before I think its now 15 yrs later she is my daughter in law and she is awesume, my grand kids are all normal & awesume

that church that was so off the charts nobody wanted to attend it and so it no longer exists

junior is less hard core but still somewhat religious so I think it was good for him

one of those med students at the dance party is now my MD and she is great

so 20 years later it all worked out fine eh

[bennymac]

Just make sure your kid takes some world/ancient history classes at some point(or history of religion) and then they’ll see that all the stories in the Bible are just copies of previous myths and fables from as far back as we’ve been telling stories. Jesus was probably just a charismatic schizophrenic.

But yes there can be real benefits to the community aspect of it all - plus it likely applies the brakes on some risk taking behaviors that teenagers (and their poorly developed frontal lobes) are not yet mature enough to approach in a healthy way. Rebellion in their early 20s is a lot “safer” than when they’re 16. And easier on the parents as well.

[Buzzworthy]

plus it likely applies the brakes on some risk taking behaviors that teenagers (and their poorly developed frontal lobes) are not yet mature enough to approach in a healthy way.

Like my first blowjob behind the church at youth group?

[byates1]

Giving?

[bennymac]

Literally laughed out loud at that comment Buzz.

Yeah I went to Bible camp a bunch of times. Fell in “love” everytime. Learned some things from girls that I wasn’t supposed to. Got exposed to heavy metal music too. Fond memories.

Can still picture this girl named “Star” walking out onto the beach in her bikini and the camp counselor/Bible study leader beside me uncharacteristically whispering “holy shit”. She was a 10.

[Buzzworthy]

I’m thinking the moral of this story is guys love a good church group and girls learn how close they actually are to an OnlyFans career.

Danno pull the plug pronto!

[DBdude]

Sounds Pentecostal to me.

not much difference between seventh day adventists

[PNWbrit]

Like my first blowjob behind the church at youth group?

Hope he enjoyed it!

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Not sure where to post this, but the Tammy thread seems most appropriate, could use a little advice.

When my kiddo is with her ex, she has been attending a youth church group. I am pretty anti-religious (not to mention a secular jew), so this makes me pretty uncomfortable. But a) I cannot really stop her from going when she's with her mom (and she's 13 so pretty soon it's going to be hard for me to stop her even when she's with me), b) she really likes it so trying to "counter" it is fraught with difficulty, and c) she gets a great sense of "community" from it which is something I can understand, as community is very important to me.

Another problem I have is I don't know what the church is teaching her and what their philosophy is. Are they against gay marriage? Abortion? Where do they fit with my values? Through the youth group they are certainly "marketing" themselves to my daughter, but I don't know what they are trying to instill in her (other than the basics of "jesus christ died for our sins, etc").

How do I deal with this? How do I find out more about the church's teachings? I have googled the hell out of it, to no avail (they have a lot of youtube videos so I could watch them but that sounds like a lot of wasted time). Do I contact the pastor and ask to talk to him? Just say fuck it and let the chips fall where they may? Any suggestions?

Go attend a service and listen to their message and closely observe the parishioners


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[TahoeJ]

not much difference between seventh day adventists

Interesting- I had no idea. I think the women I know are probably doing some California toned down version that isn’t so extreme? You wouldn’t even guess they’re religious.

[byates1]

Read up on 7th day. Complete delusional insanity. They hide it bc they know how wacked out it is.

[teleee]

Read up on 7th day. Complete delusional insanity. They hide it bc they know how wacked out it is.

So like bitcoin?


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[Norseman]

golf clap

[Buzzworthy]

So like bitcoin?


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I applaud you.

[skaredshtles]

So like bitcoin?


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I chukkled.

[byates1]

BTC value, unlike the net worth of all the divorcees here, has gone straight up.

[byates1]

I chukkled.

So you're saying you missed BTC.

[Mustonen]

SDA aren’t that much weirder than any other fundamentalist group. They believe in a 10,000 year old earth and have their own prophetess from whom they primarily derive their health message (vegetarianism before it was cool, kosher ish treatment of meats if you DO eat meat, exercise, no alcohol or caffeine, etc.)

As a rule, they don’t believe in speaking in tongues or snake things or big public miracles or ornate ceremonies (a la Catholics).

On the crazy scale I’d place them at less crazy/concerning than Mormons.

[Buzzworthy]

So you're saying you missed BTC.

He’s saying it was a good joke nothing more. Quit poking the bear.