Zipfit Grand Fuckin’ Teton Liner

[Judo Chop!]

Obviously there will be a hit to the long term durability, but that's not the point of this new liner. As long as the price point isn't $600+ dollars it won't matter to me. I have never retired a foam liner due to the toe box wearing out... it's always the heel hold that fails first.

100%

they told me not next season, but 2025.
not sure exactly what that means. but my guess is only for pros & bros next season.

[GoldenBC]

Some shops are getting it next year. But not many at all.

The entire liner is made from a different material. No neoprene, as that was very heavy.

There is very little cork in it to start. It is meant for the fit found in 1000g lv boots, or fat feet in normal boots I guess.

[DoubleBogey]

Some shops are getting it next year. But not many at all.

Is your shop getting in on the party?

[GoldenBC]

To be seen. We hope.

[ZipFit_Jeff]

As I've alluded to, we are working on a lightweight touring innerboot.

We are still in the development and testing phase. We will launch this lightweight touring innerboot when we can stand behind the durability and longevity. We are not planning on having any available for '24/'25.

I hope that is as clear as can be. We share your enthusiasm for this project and we want to make it as great as we know it can be.

Cheers,
Jeff

[Johnny Utah]

I’m sure there are a few here that would happily help in this testing effort : )


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[zion zig zag]

As I've alluded to, we are working on a lightweight touring innerboot.

We are still in the development and testing phase. We will launch this lightweight touring innerboot when we can stand behind the durability and longevity. We are not planning on having any available for '24/'25.

I hope that is as clear as can be. We share your enthusiasm for this project and we want to make it as great as we know it can be.

Cheers,
Jeff

Well damn.

[Marshal Olson]

A bit of a sad day, killing old zips, but a fruitful harvest for filling new zips!

[DoubleBogey]

How did they die?

[Marshal Olson]

How did they die?

13 seasons and 700+ days

[DoubleBogey]

Well done

[Marshal Olson]

Well done

I don’t think I have had a single piece of gear, either skis or bikes, that saw more use and produced more enjoyment than those liners. Sad to cut them apart, but I’m glad the magic they possess will live on in my new zips.

[DoubleBogey]

They’re not cheap but I don’t think there’s better value out there. Not only the durability but the performance upgrade as well.

[Slowhands]

Finally bit the bullet and bought a pair for my Radical Pros. Coming from an Intuition, I'm pleasantly surprised at the ROM, especially while striding forward. Hoping the comfort is more than enough to take my mind off the extra weight.

[GoldenBC]

Finally bit the bullet and bought a pair for my Radical Pros. Coming from an Intuition, I'm pleasantly surprised at the ROM, especially while striding forward. Hoping the comfort is more than enough to take my mind off the extra weight.

You’ll love it. Maybe save a crappy liner for when you don’t care about skiing and just want light, but since you’re in Radical pros you’ve already made the decision to put function over weight. And you’ll never be able to ski a crappy liner again, so just toss it.

[Blaster]

Does anyone have a feedback on whether the GFT being less warm than intuitions holds true in warmer conditions? Are they any better or worse in mega warm, sweaty swamp foot inducing temps?

[Jongle]

Does anyone have a feedback on whether the GFT being less warm than intuitions holds true in warmer conditions? Are they any better or worse in mega warm, sweaty swamp foot inducing temps?

GFTs are less breathable. I don’t notice it so much during the tour, but I’ve had 12-hour spring days where I pulled my liners off at the car and my feet/lower legs looked like they’d been in a hot tub for too long.

Not something I notice while skiing or really think about afterwards though.

[GoldenBC]

Same. Feet get wet for sure. No issue though. Biggest difference is the GFT doesn’t feel super soft and loose when it’s warm.

[Andyski]

Weight, price and temperature regulation are the three things Intuition has the GFT beat on. Durability, skiability (compared to other tongue liners), fit tweaking are in the GFT column. I have boots the GFT simply will not fit in either (TLT 6).


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[GravityDT]

Bump for 24/25 season - anybody in the know have any info on any updates to the GFT for this season? TIA

[auvgeek]

Is everyone just paying retail here? It's looking like I'll need a GFT and a Gara LV or Corsa for new inbounds boots (Lange ZR). Hard to stomach $1000 in liners...

[adrian.bee]

Is everyone just paying retail here? It's looking like I'll need a GFT and a Gara LV or Corsa for new inbounds boots (Lange ZR). Hard to stomach $1000 in liners...

I found mine on ebay new but Zipfits might be the only thing I'd pay retail for in skiing, considering the performance and the amount of days you can get out of them

[vermontana]

Is there anything inherently bad about just getting in the liners while they're in the boots and not using the "world cup" technique to get them on? I have Atomic Hawx xtd and just picked up some lightly used GFTs, with the way the shell overlaps it is a huge PIA trying to get them on with that Zipfit recommended technique at home, can't imagine it's any easier out in the cold getting ready to ski...

[FullStop]

Is there anything inherently bad about just getting in the liners while they're in the boots and not using the "world cup" technique to get them on? I have Atomic Hawx xtd and just picked up some lightly used GFTs, with the way the shell overlaps it is a huge PIA trying to get them on with that Zipfit recommended technique at home, can't imagine it's any easier out in the cold getting ready to ski...

You risk pushing some of the cork around the achilles into your heel pocket (which would then push your foot forward in the boot) but I don't think you'll actually damage or cause excess wear anything.

I've actually found it easier to "world cup" my garas in to my XTDs than it is to go the normal way with the stock liners. I put some PTFE tape on the boot board and inside the rear of the cuff to reduce some friction when stepping in. Just gotta hand spread the lowers a bit to assist.

[vermontana]

You risk pushing some of the cork around the achilles into your heel pocket (which would then push your foot forward in the boot) but I don't think you'll actually damage or cause excess wear anything.

I've actually found it easier to "world cup" my garas in to my XTDs than it is to go the normal way with the stock liners. I put some PTFE tape on the boot board and inside the rear of the cuff to reduce some friction when stepping in. Just gotta hand spread the lowers a bit to assist.

Ah okay - well probably best to avoid that and keep the heel pocket molded as it's meant to be. Appreciate the tips, will try that PTFE tape.