Zipfit Grand Fuckin’ Teton Liner

[Judo Chop!]

They’ll sort you out.

I had the same thing happen to mine the very first time I tried them on. They offered to replace, but I was rushed and timing didn’t work. So I just repaired myself with some stitching and aquaseal.
This was from the very first GFT batch a few years ago. Repair still holding.

[Westcoaster]

Well shit... ~70 days in and I blew a hole above my heel. I can't pin down exactly when it happened, just noticed as I was putting them on today. Anyone else seen this?Attachment 510519

Seam tolerance issue. Rare. Curious what they say.

[Jongle]

Happened to me too and ZipFit warrantied them right away. Great customer service.

[bthomson22]

They're sending me a new pair. Currently trying to get them to also send me 3 tubes of cork along with them, since that's how deep I was. Wish me luck on that front haha.

[Skip Dooley]

Can you salvage some out of the damaged liners?


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[bthomson22]

Yeah that's Plan C. Basically just pull a bunch from the tongue (easiest place). Plan B is bug my boot fitting buddy.

[csmith]

Anyone have any direct experience with how the volume of the gft compares to the Fischer lv zip fit? I skied a day in my zgtp with the Fischer lv zip fit and it was fantastic, but I am worried that the gft will take up too much volume and push my foot further forward in the boot. Can I take enough cork out of the gift to get it to fit like the Fischer lv?

[Westcoaster]

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They&rsquo;ll sort you out. I had the same thing happen to mine the very first time I tried them on. They offered to replace, but I was rushed and timing didn&rsquo;t work. So I just repaired myself with some stitching and aquaseal. This was from the very first GFT batch a few years ago. Repair still holding.

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I have a similar question re gft and corsa volume comparison. Would love to occasionally rock the GFT in some race style boots if the volume is similar, but dont have the opportunity at the moment for a direct comparison between liners.&nbsp;<br />
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[TahoeJosh]

GFT is lower volume than the Gara LV. Check out the attachment on this SkiTalk thread for reference.

[Westcoaster]

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They&rsquo;ll sort you out. I had the same thing happen to mine the very first time I tried them on. They offered to replace, but I was rushed and timing didn&rsquo;t work. So I just repaired myself with some stitching and aquaseal. This was from the very first GFT batch a few years ago. Repair still holding.

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[zion zig zag]

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Just FYI, I cannot recommend the microwave method, especially if you are an idiot like me. Brand new pair of GFT and I had tried them on and they actually felt pretty spot on out of the box, but I had one pressure point over the malleolous that I thought I should sort with a heat mold. I wrapped it in a t-shirt and did a 15 second burst at power level 5, flipped and repeated that. It did not feel very warm so I did a 12 second burst at power level 7 and then smelled burning rubber and had smoke. My microwave is small and has a turntable, the liner had rotated inside so that the toe perfectly touched the spot in the microwave (where the power comes out?) that is hot. So short burst, low-ish power level and had cooled a bit from the previous two bursts and it still melted.</p>
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Luckily it is just the rubber material on the bottom, with maybe a bit of damage to the foot bed material under that, but I feel fairly confident that I can repair with some Aquaseal SR. Sometimes it makes me sick how dumb I am, but hopefully I can save someone else. If you use a microwave, make sure it is big enough to not touch the sides and remove the turntable. </p>
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Edit: looks like my photo will not work of course. And I had to edit out all contractions to be readable.&nbsp;</p>

[zion zig zag]

Quick review: Skied these today in 5-12” of hero snow, climbed and skied about 4500 feet, lapped the top section in good snow a few times with 3-4 transitions. Temps were from 10-20 degrees, stayed cold up high where we spent the majority of the 6-7 hours we were out. Boots are ZGTP.
The good: they ski so good, the heel hold even with no additional cork was light years better than stock. I heated these briefly (see above for debacle) but I think I could have just skied these in. I had a slight rub/pressure at one or two spots that could easily be ignored and very well may just work itself out. My toes had plenty of room and the neoprene seemed to just stretch to fit the boot pretty well. I had heat molded the stock liners for more width, but the GFT immediately felt more comfortable there.

The bad: more weight obviously, but they walked well enough that I’m not sure I noticed. I’d say today was an “average” day of touring and I can’t say that I was anymore tired than normal. The real test will be back to back 6k days I guess. The real bad, cold. During the tour yesterday my feet were cold, but I didn’t think abnormally so, I actually told someone that they seemed about the same as the stock liners. Fine for the initial climb and then got cold on the first ski and stayed somewhat numb for the rest of the tour. But then I got home and started to thaw my feet in the shower; painful, waxy, mottled purple toes. And then later noticed my feet were swollen enough to notice when putting on wide tennis shoes. Some pain in my feet actually woke me up last night. No blisters or black skin yet, but I do have some purple spots under my big toenail. So I’m not sure how much I may have fucked my feet, but obviously there are different stages of “numb” and this was worse than stock. Just for comparison I have skied an 8 hour day in 15 degree temps earlier this year in the stock liners where my feet also went numb, but had none of these symptoms and warmed fairly quickly end of day.

So in all, great skiing liner and improved the fit exponentially right away, but I don’t think I’ll be able to use them without heated socks if thee temps are less than 20-25 degrees. I’ll probably try to find thee temp limit on some shorter days where I can bail if needed, but obviously 15 is too cold. Since I tour more than 50% of thee time in the Tetons, I may be in heated socks a lot.

[Westcoaster]

Try a boot glove and maybe an antiperspirant stick on your feet

[Cocximus]

Seems like GFTs are out of stock pretty much everywhere

[fleaches]

Except on the zipfit website? I'm seeing most sizes in stock, but only a few left.

[Cocximus]

275 not in stock. I wonder if an update is coming or they are clearing stock as BOA made them obsolete

[fleaches]

275 not in stock. I wonder if an update is coming or they are clearing stock as BOA made them obsolete

Weird, it's still showing 2 for me


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[GoldenBC]

Zion Zion zag, I’m not saying you didn’t feel what you felt but I think something else is going on with your feet. 15 freedom units is -9c and I normally use boot heater but when it’s that warm I don’t need to at all, especially while touring. I can’t say I’ve really heard comments from people saying they are that cold. When it’s -20, yeah they are cold but everything is.

Considering you are getting similar issues with the stock liner, I’d asses your fit and see where you are getting circulation issues. That seems to be the problem from what I can tell.

[zion zig zag]

Zion Zion zag, I’m not saying you didn’t feel what you felt but I think something else is going on with your feet. 15 freedom units is -9c and I normally use boot heater but when it’s that warm I don’t need to at all, especially while touring. I can’t say I’ve really heard comments from people saying they are that cold. When it’s -20, yeah they are cold but everything is.

Considering you are getting similar issues with the stock liner, I’d asses your fit and see where you are getting circulation issues. That seems to be the problem from what I can tell.

Pretty sure I also have Raynaud’s. I posted a thread in the gimp Central forum. Also just received my lens 5.1 heated socks, but I’m not sure they’re going to work because they seem kind of thick to me.

[GoldenBC]

That makes sense.

[zion zig zag]

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That makes sense.

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Any problem with me throwing the GFT&#39;s in another pair of touring boots? I have an old pair of Maestrales that are a little bigger in the toe box and I may try that this week. Like, will I migrate cork to places that will make it work worse in my primary touring boots?</p>

[GoldenBC]

Potentially. But it will mold back just as fast