New Season, New Tires, New Thread

[SchralphMacchio]

Spec Ground Controls on sale for $40 … woke up to a load bang a 2am.

Yikes, what casing, Control or Grid?

[El Chupacabra]

The only new tubeless tire I've ever had blow off a rim after installing it was a Specialized. Sealant all over the garage...

[sfotex]

Yikes, what casing, Control or Grid?

Control. First control casing I've tried, I've been using the Spec Trail tires and was curious how the control casings were. Not so curious anymore....

[SchralphMacchio]

Hopefully an easy warranty process from you. I mean ideally the shop would refund you and deal with it themselves.

Given the possibility of a process defect specific to a production cell/batch, I would not replace with the same tire from the same shop inventory, but I would probably give a chance to the same tire direct shipped from Big S.

I did some short/mellow riding around on this Big S tire today loaded to 25 psi - the sidewall wear is 100% my fault. Would love to replace with Continental but they only make Kryptotal R in 2.6, not Kryptotal F. And Big S sale prices right now are too good to turn down. So another Butcher 2.6 it is …

[sfotex]

Rode a Rekon Race (fr)/Rekon (r) today, I really like a round profile tire in the front, it feels so much smoother when I roll the tire from edge to edge.

Just 'cause I was bored....blown tire pics. Almost pinholes in the sidewall, and the bead is exposed in various places (vs. the other side that didn't blow)

[Andeh]

I'm headed up to Oregon this coming weekend to visit / ride with a buddy from Ashland, also hitting Oakridge. Are current conditions favoring a Kryptotal Front or Argotal? We'll be shuttling/ebiking so weight / a little bit of drag doesn't matter too much. It's pretty dry here, but it's dust on crust and the KrF is great for that. I'm not familiar enough with OR dirt to know whether it turns in to full on loose which might favor the Arogtal.

[climberevan]

You should check out the current fire situation in OR before you go there...

[SchralphMacchio]

You can run a Xynotal front and rear in Oregon (I’m on Diss Diss right now) though there are steep loose bandit trails on Mt A that will do better with the Kryptotal Fr.

It’s about 80 ppm PM2.5 in Ashland.

Oakridge - I wouldn’t bank on anything other than Hardesty Portal (Goodman Hardesty Eula Lawler), which should remain in play during onshore conditions but could get smoked out if the westerlies break down and we go into our typical August inversion pattern that brings smoke into the Willamette valley and then traps it with warmer air above the smoke. Alpine practically is shut down (Tire Mountain is literally on fire), road 19 is basically closed as the Chalk fire jumped road 19 and is ripping through Huckleberry OHV area. Dead is right close to the High Prairie fire and probably a hot smoky mess. If Chalk Fire settles down and winds go light west with cold nights, then Dead and Larison might be in play with cleaner air, but it’s just so hard to predict, especially when winds shut down overnight and smoke disperses in all directions - hard to make bets as Chalk Fire has been growing with very high intensity.
Middle Fork (Road 21) is open as is Moon Point and Timpanogas trail network was cleared before our T storms, but there lots of smedium fires out that way (above the 21 and 23 corridors) all the way all the way into the Umpqua River watershed (which is absolutely fuct right now) that have the potential to make Timp, Middle Fork and Moon not very pleasant from a smoke perspective.

Do you have Watch Duty app?

[SchralphMacchio]

Just realized you are ebiking. My advice is to bail from Oakridge to Alsea Falls (BLM and 100% ebike friendly) and Black Rock (ODF and 100% ebike friendly). No legal camping near Black Rock but if you can find a cheap place to stay in Albany then you are only about 40 mins from Black Rock. Alsea Falls is 45 mins from Corvallis and just under an hour from Albany. West side of Willamette valley so should be clean air in both places.
Carpenter Bypass southwest of Eugene is nothing to sneeze at too (same dirt), it’s just got less vert and less continuous fall line so it’s not destination worthy, but definitely worth a detour off I5 for a half or full day of riding if you have a flex schedule.
And bring the fast tires for all those places, west side dirt has like 1mm of dry loose on top of super fast loam clay mix.

[Andeh]

Thanks, buddy didn't mention the middle of OR was on fire, so hadn't even checked the fire conditions. We had the 4 pack of shuttles booked and were basically planning on riding everything you said will be closed or effed. I will call up Trans Cascadia and see if we can cancel. There's other stuff near Ashland that I haven't ridden yet that we could easily do based out of his house.

[SchralphMacchio]

TransC is good peeps and I think they will work with you.

I’m headed to pedal Lawler later this morning. Conditions further east from there will change on a day to day basis with the winds, daytime temps and overnight temps. This morning’s numbers are clear in town. So I want to clarify that stuff east of Hardesty Portal could very well be smoke free next week, but it’s all likely to be touch and go day to day with each day’s new fire and weather developments. Flexibility is key if you guys can’t divert.

Or if you can reassign your credits to someone else for use later in the season, I never bought my shuttle six pack this year and would gladly buy them off you if they will do a transfer and you don’t want to deal with the uncertainty.

[Andeh]

Yeah I was just going to ask them to cancel the day's booking but hold onto the money for the pass in case I'm able to come back up in the fall. At the very least my buddy who lives up there should be able to make use of his pass at some point.

There's plenty of stuff we'd like to check out closer to Ashland that will still be fun. Buddy was suggesting Wagner Creek, Mountains of the Rogue, Jacksonville.

[SchralphMacchio]

I think the fairies and gnomes of the forest will weep if someone with DH Argotals under a 100Nm motor comes into these magical woods …


I’m kidding. Of course there are some jagged shale sections and some loose corners that look like this, but most trails here have more of the first two pics and less of this.


Also don’t bother with MoTR. SW facing, hot, not that awesome, soil too similar to Bay Area too. I’ll send you a PM with more deets on smoke etc.

[XXX-er]

https://nsmb.com/articles/the-new-maxxis-high-roller-3/

A pretty good artical on the new HR3 ^^ worth a read IMO cuz its in depth with some maxxis guys ( AKA A. Ron Burgandy ) answering questions riders have asked about HR3 vs ass guy HRII ect

edit; its a fyi . So I asked Ron burgandy if I should stick with the Ass guy or try the HR3 and he suggested to stay with the ass guy

[SchralphMacchio]

Wow seems silly to call that the new High Roller. Then again for bike park use the DH Dissector probably makes the HR2 irrelevant.
This one is more like an “Extra Shorty.” Looks so much like a Spesh Hillbilly with slightly larger blocks/contact area, would love to see them side by side.

[Huskier]

Killed my 3rd exo dissector. Running 30 lb as a rear I managed to use my rim edge to open a gash 2 in long at like the base of the sidewall, almost like I rolled the tire so hard that it cut it. I'd never seen that kind of failure, and up until this season I had actually never killed a tire. What is it about this mold that makes them so fragile? I ran a DHR in exo for years no problems

Anyone have time on a tacky chan yet as a rear?

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[toast2266]

What is it about this mold that makes them so fragile? I ran a DHR in exo for years no problems



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As best I can tell, dissectors just don't have a ton of rubber in them. Like, the knobs themselves aren't as tall as a dhr2, but I think there's also a bit less rubber surrounding the casing. A 2.4" exo dhr2 is a full 100g heavier than a 2.4" exo dissector. That difference is pretty much all extra rubber.

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[evdog]

My spur originally came with Dissector and Rekon. I was pleasantly surprised with how much I liked them at the time. They seemed to grip and last pretty well. Went back to dual DHFs after that though.

[carlh]

Eliminator grid trail has been holding up pretty well for me with a tannus insert. Seems like a bit more grip and a touch slower than the dissector on my hardtail. T7 is wearing minimally but slick on anything wet. I’m not convinced the extra speed is worth less traction on the enduro bike and will be putting a half worn magic Mary on the back in September when fall riding starts.

[SchralphMacchio]

I’m only 140 lbs and I’m capable of destroying EXO Dissectors. But I still enjoy riding them when fresh, until they start to fall apart, because LoamOregon soil is already wildly grippy to start with. Next year I’ll probably do Eliminator front and rear on my Bronson unless I can get Xynotal Enduro softs for hella cheap.

Oh yeah, 3CMT Dissector is also extra slick on anything wet. I pull mine off as soon as the first September rains come, Hillbilly T9 goes on front and Butcher T7 goes on the rear until things get truly sloppy, then it’s Hillbilly on both ends of my hardtail until the on and off spring wet season when I’m back on my Bronson with Hillbilly/Butcher … the Dissectors don’t go back on until the first May or June heatwave that cooks the trails and shuts off the springs.

[snowaddict91]

Timely topic, I just put a hole in the sidewall of a dissector tonight. I stopped running them for a while and now I remember why. I just put a Tannus insert on the big bike, guess I should have put one on the Spur too.

They ride great but they wear so fast and seem to puncture easier than other Maxxis of the equivalent casing.

I too was pleasantly surprised with how much I liked the Dissector as a front tire on my Spur. I could see running Dissector F/R on it but again they just wear so quick.

I think I need to give the eliminator a try.

[toast2266]

Yeah, dissectors are still my favorite tire in the "fast rolling but still corner and stop pretty ok" category. I never run them because they wear too quickly and they're expensive, but I like them when I have them. Eliminator is an adequate substitute that's both cheaper and longer lasting, but dissector is superior.

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[evdog]

and they're expensive

Yeah that was a big reason I went back to DHFs, aside from knowing them and trusting them. And you can usually find them on sale. Dissectors, not so often. I did pick up a few on one of the big web sales last fall though.

[Falcon3]

Yeah, dissectors are still my favorite tire in the "fast rolling but still corner and stop pretty ok" category. I never run them because they wear too quickly and they're expensive, but I like them when I have them. Eliminator is an adequate substitute that's both cheaper and longer lasting, but dissector is superior.

I really loved my Dissector in DD MaxxTerra (picked up from Europe as it's hen's teeth in US) but my Conti Xynotal in Enduro Soft has made me completely forget the Dissector. For aggressive enduro-style rears I've also run Aggressor, DHR2, Xynotal, Kryptotal Soft, and this Xynotal Enduro Soft is my goldlocks tire for like 95% of what I ride in the INW.

[Dromond]

I really loved my Dissector in DD MaxxTerra (picked up from Europe as it's hen's teeth in US) but my Conti Xynotal in Enduro Soft has made me completely forget the Dissector. For aggressive enduro-style rears I've also run Aggressor, DHR2, Xynotal, Kryptotal Soft, and this Xynotal Enduro Soft is my goldlocks tire for like 95% of what I ride in the INW.

So like 50g heavier than an Aggressor 2.5, but softer rubber? Better tread design?