New Season, New Tires, New Thread

[Meconium]

I'll slap it on. Not much side knob undercut but the center started to kind of undercut from a few rides of uphill tarmac.

[toast2266]

So, I have a High Roller II that I removed awhile ago from a bike that came with it on the rear. Almost new, just ditched it because it was so slow and crazy on the tarmac when riding to trails. Can anyone compare it to a DHF as a front tire or whatever. Thinking of slapping it on the front because I need a replacement and have to many spares laying around to justify buying more rubber.

Rolls a tiny bit faster than a dhf. More on/off-y. Hooks up hard when leaned all the way over, but has a big drifty zone at moderate lean angles. Wears out quite a bit quicker than a dhf. Brakes pretty well in a straight line, but gets a little funky at leaned over braking.

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[SchralphMacchio]

I like the HR II as a front tire - has some similar feel to the Minions, definitely same side knob undercutting issues. IIRC lighter than the Minions.

If I had an endless supply of tires and someone else doing the installation and sealant work, I'd happily ride a combo of front HR II and rear Dissector. And have them replaced every other week so they'd always be fresh.

Hmm I’ve only ever used it in the rear. I think I’d rather go Dissector front HR2 rear.

Wasn’t it designed as a bike park tire, and has pretty much been replaced by the Dissector? I think the lean angles where it hooks up are more than a DHF or Dissector, the corner knobs are closer/lower to the sidewall IIRC.

[El Chupacabra]

HR II definitely predates the Dissector, by a couple of year I think. It's kinda slow as a rear tire compared to the Dissector.

[SchralphMacchio]

It’s been so many years since I’ve had an HR2 I can’t remember the speed. I had it as a 26” rear on my 2012 SB66! Dissector came out in like 2019?

[toast2266]

It’s been so many years since I’ve had an HR2 I can’t remember the speed. I had it as a 26” rear on my 2012 SB66! Dissector came out in like 2019?

Yeah, dissector is new in the last 4ish years. I was running HR2's in 2005-ish. They were awesome back then, but there's better options these days.

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[SJG]

I have to think that new(er) tires are just better all around than 15yo designs. Generally our parts and bikes now are pretty good, it's much more difficult to get something crappy than it was in the old days.

[Meconium]

Thanks all, they still make the HR II so guess it's financially relevant.
The one I'm remounting is off a 23 bike.

[toast2266]

I have to think that new(er) tires are just better all around than 15yo designs. Generally our parts and bikes now are pretty good, it's much more difficult to get something crappy than it was in the old days.

Exception: dhf and dhr2. Still pretty much the best all around tire combo on the market.

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[J. Barron DeJong]

Thanks all, they still make the HR II so guess it's financially relevant.
The one I'm remounting is off a 23 bike.

Sounds like it’s going to be replaced shortly, with a substantially different design:

https://bikerumor.com/spotted-maxxis...the-dh-rounds/

[evasive_MT]

I thought I remembered the HR2 coming out in the same generation of updates as the DHR2. I’m pretty sure I remember reading kidwoo reviews of both on Blister around the same time.

[SchralphMacchio]

Panracer Dart / Smoke 4 LYFE man.

[hick]

Panracer Dart / Smoke 4 LYFE man.

1.9 Panaracer smoke, dumbest tire I ever put on my bike. What was I thinking, ugh. Pumped up to like 60#s probably. Man we have it good now, so many more options.


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[Meconium]

Farmer John

[Meconium]

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[El Chupacabra]

1.9 Panaracer smoke, dumbest tire I ever put on my bike. What was I thinking, ugh. Pumped up to like 60#s probably. Man we have it good now, so many more options.


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I had one of those back around 1992, when I was stupidly trying to make my bike as light as possible. I think it got to something like 22# with pedals - a Stumpjumper with a Mag21.

[stuckathuntermtn]

Second ride Mazza/Martello. Dropped a psi or 2 and thought it was really dragging. Turns out I forgot to throw the climb switch on my shock for like 1,500 vertical feet of hard and smooth Rattlesnake trails. Whoops. Can't see the shock, either, with anything in the bottle cage. Still a good tire combo if you're not looking for big volume. Felt a little better cornering with the front tire around 22 or 23 psi. Sidewalls were sturdy enough not to squirm. Maybe a little drift on the rear at 25psi on an unbanked turn with kitty litter on it. Might even be a reverse banked turn. Didn't break away, just felt like either it was starting to drift or the sidewall was getting a tad amount of squirm. Maybe 26 psi in the rear is the way to go.
I don't want them off the bike, but due to their smaller size, I won't be buying them again. Maybe the 2.6 Mazza really is made for larger ID rims, but it doesn't seem like all the way to 35mm.

[D(C)]

Specialized is having a tire sale right now (maybe just in Canada). I’m thinking about giving the Cannibal a go as a front tire on my Sight. I’m torn whether to go Butcher or Eliminator in the rear. I typically like faster rolling tires and enjoy pedalling, but also want good braking traction. I’m leaning toward Eliminator. Any thoughts?

I’ve been mainly running DHF front, DHR, Dissector or Aggressor rear over the past couple of years. I like the way the DHF hooks up in corners and my hope is that the Cannibal has a similar feel with a bit more forgiveness if I’m not set up properly for a turn.

[SchralphMacchio]

People like to run Ass Dis despite the traction mismatch, that would be kind of like Cannibal Eliminator.

Or Butcher to approximate DHR2.

[Meconium]

I liked the HR II better then DHF, I'll never buy another one because it looks like the knobs will self destroy after one ride running it up front. I'm not a 20 somthing Enduro bro or fa heavy hitter

[meter-man]

Anyone get recs for a non-Maxxis corollary to a Rekon?

I normally run DHF/DHR2 DD (or Magic Mary/Big Betty), but swapped on Dissector front and Rekon rear on my Spire for a long XCish ride with some technical bits (Rose to Toads in Tahoe, about 65 miles and 9000’ vert). I loved the light feel, fast roll, but still able cornering this combo provided. I also surprised myself setting PRs on other trails I’ve ridden a lot, without trying very hard. Quite the revelation. Tires!

Of course, I trashed the Rekon in ~200 miles.

While I would be fine buying another Rekon Exo, wondering if the collective has any suggestions for a similar fast-rolling but still good cornering tire from another brand.

Rekon in 29x2.4 Exo weighs 901 grams so something in that weight range would be ideal. Thanks y’all.


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[SchralphMacchio]

I’ve never fondled one but the big S Ground Control may be the droid you are looking for. T5 would be closer to DC and Grid more like EXO.
(Edit: looks like it may not be available in a Grid Trail casing)

Bontrager XR4 is also somewhat similar I think and what I have on the wife’s ancient no longer used Mojo SL.

PS, check the “main” social media app and see pics of her new whip yo. DHF/DHR on that bad boy. If she starts sliding out the front I’ll probably put a Conti Kryptotal Fr on it.

[jamal]

The Vittoria syerra is pretty similar. I've ridden both and like it better, but it was also 2.25 rekons (3c/exo/tr) and I had the bike sorted out better with the syerras. But yeah syerras are my late summer/fall general trail tire on a 120/120 xcish bike. Schwalbe wicked will and/or nobby nic could be some other options.

[jdadour]

Anyone get recs for a non-Maxxis corollary to a Rekon?

I normally run DHF/DHR2 DD (or Magic Mary/Big Betty), but swapped on Dissector front and Rekon rear on my Spire for a long XCish ride with some technical bits (Rose to Toads in Tahoe, about 65 miles and 9000’ vert). I loved the light feel, fast roll, but still able cornering this combo provided. I also surprised myself setting PRs on other trails I’ve ridden a lot, without trying very hard. Quite the revelation. Tires!

Of course, I trashed the Rekon in ~200 miles.

While I would be fine buying another Rekon Exo, wondering if the collective has any suggestions for a similar fast-rolling but still good cornering tire from another brand.

Rekon in 29x2.4 Exo weighs 901 grams so something in that weight range would be ideal. Thanks y’all.


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Check out the Wicked Will Super Ground. More tread than a rekon, and faster and lighter per bicycle rolling resistance. I'm running them front and rear on my Stumpjumper, and they handle things well considering how fast they are.

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[stuckathuntermtn]

I think my pressure gauge might be reading a couple psi too high :/