Electric car thread

[uglymoney]

They are. Hence the price. It sold today for $5500. It was perfect for our needs. I'm starting to look for the next electric car.

What are you shopping? Everything?

[I've seen black diamonds!]

Alright. I'm sick of commuting in my Leaf. It's been a cheap, easy, useful car, but now that I spend a lot of time driving I'm over it. Looking at EV6 and Mach E. Thoughts? I like both of them. By biggest concern is avoiding huge fucking problems. And the seats. I think I like the Ford seats more.

[skaredshtles]

Alright. I'm sick of commuting in my Leaf. It's been a cheap, easy, useful car, but now that I spend a lot of time driving I'm over it. Looking at EV6 and Mach E. Thoughts? I like both of them. By biggest concern is avoiding huge fucking problems. And the seats. I think I like the Ford seats more.

I've heard rumors that there are *really* good lease deals on both the Hyundai EV's as well as the Toyota bZ4X. Probably not helpful, but... this *is* TRG.

[J. Barron DeJong]

Alright. I'm sick of commuting in my Leaf. It's been a cheap, easy, useful car, but now that I spend a lot of time driving I'm over it. Looking at EV6 and Mach E. Thoughts? I like both of them. By biggest concern is avoiding huge fucking problems. And the seats. I think I like the Ford seats more.

FWIW, Car & Driver rates the Ioniq 5 tops in that category, followed by EV6, then Mach E.

https://www.caranddriver.com/ranking...ectric/compact

[dan_pdx]

Alright. I'm sick of commuting in my Leaf. It's been a cheap, easy, useful car, but now that I spend a lot of time driving I'm over it. Looking at EV6 and Mach E. Thoughts? I like both of them. By biggest concern is avoiding huge fucking problems. And the seats. I think I like the Ford seats more.

Cars Direct tracks lease deals: https://www.carsdirect.com/deals-art...reen-car-deals

[NBABUCKS1]

FWIW, Car & Driver rates the Ioniq 5 tops in that category, followed by EV6, then Mach E.

https://www.caranddriver.com/ranking...ectric/compact

ioniq 5 haver here.

Ioniq 5 gets my vote too.

[Boissal]

Bought a Ioniq 5 a few weeks ago after years in various Subis. I'm sold. Such a fun car to drive, I was able to pass slowpokes driving 30 mph up the Cottonwoods for the first time ever. Love watching the battery regain 5% while driving down LCC as well.
Level 2 charger at home, level 3 right by the in-laws house so I can charge for free for 2 years. There are some horror stories out there about ICCU failures but as usual you don't hear from people who have no issues with their car.

[ColMan]

Cars Direct tracks lease deals: https://www.carsdirect.com/deals-art...reen-car-deals

Check out the signed deals under leasehacker.com as well.

Nissan was pretty much giving those leaf's away in Colorado recently with $9/month leases from what I saw on slickdeals. The $7500 CO rebate stacked with the $7500 from the feds is how they were able to make it happen. Also guessing that no one wants a 100mi range EV.

[dan_pdx]

I want a 100 mi range EV for like $15k but there's nothing that fits the bill. I'd consider a used leaf with 50 mi of range, but I'd want to have a better idea of how the range declines: is it a smooth curve, or is it going to go from 50, to 40, to zero?

This would just be a grocery getter and around town car, we'd keep the gasser for going to the mountain and road trips. Can't help thinking that for $15K to drive to the grocery store, might as well get an electric bikfiets and call it a day.

[nickwm21]

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[ColMan]

Even at $13k, the 2024 leaf's seem to still be sitting on lots in CO.

[carlh]

We have a 2013 leaf with 60k miles on it that we bought 3 years ago with 45k miles. 10/12 bars on the battery health and it gets ~70 miles of range minus 10-16 for heat or ac use. Range is higher in town and lower above 65mph. We have not seen any range change over the past 3 years, as long as you aren’t fast charging it or in lots of hot weather they seem fine. We bought for $7k and it’s probably still worth $5k so, I think all in it’s probably similar cost per mile to my ecargo bike.

I want a 100 mi range EV for like $15k but there's nothing that fits the bill. I'd consider a used leaf with 50 mi of range, but I'd want to have a better idea of how the range declines: is it a smooth curve, or is it going to go from 50, to 40, to zero?

This would just be a grocery getter and around town car, we'd keep the gasser for going to the mountain and road trips. Can't help thinking that for $15K to drive to the grocery store, might as well get an electric bikfiets and call it a day.

[I've seen black diamonds!]

I have a 2019 Leaf (range is 150 miles) I'll be selling soon. Reach out if you're interested in buying it.

[frorider]

Kia/Hyundai EVs continue to get good reviews from C&D etc, but I still hear the dealerships are fkn terrible & C&D doesn’t attempt to address that aspect.

Not in the market right now but guessing we’ll be getting something in the $40k range (AWD, decent range) in the next couple of years (mildly used or whatever).

[J. Barron DeJong]

Kia/Hyundai EVs continue to get good reviews from C&D etc, but I still hear the dealerships are fkn terrible & C&D doesn’t attempt to address that aspect.

Not in the market right now but guessing we’ll be getting something in the $40k range (AWD, decent range) in the next couple of years (mildly used or whatever).

TBF, Ford is also right down there for dealer satisfaction too.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...g/73085746007/

[adrenalated]

Eh I think all dealers are hit or miss. I've walked into good and bad dealerships for pretty much every brand.

[PB]

Eh I think all dealers are hit or miss. I've walked into good and bad dealerships for pretty much every brand.

^^^ This. Recently switched dealers, night and day. Brutally expensive but reliable quality from the new one.

[gravitylover]

The only dealer I feel like I've been treated fairly doesn't sell anything I want but the service and parts dept has been great.

I had an electrician here for some other work and asked about adding a level 2 charger. I'd need a new, bigger breaker box, a line run to the outside, some other stuff and the permits. Total cost, not including a charger, around $6k. It would take a long time to make that back considering how outrageous electric costs are here. It's not the actual electricity that's that pricey it's the delivery fees and shit. Our July electric was $120 but fees and delivery were $150 Adding a car charger adds another $15-20/Mo in fees.

[Name Redacted]

I drove a Leaf over Vail pass last summer, Silverthorne to Avon 41 miles. Driving normally, not milking it or really flooring it, using regenerative braking, I ended up only using up 18 miles of range. I was pretty impressed. Not something I'd want to drive in the winter up here really though.

[basinbeater]

What are you shopping? Everything?

We drove several, Audi Etron Q4, Nissan ariya, Kia ev6, could't find a Toyota buzzforks (bz4x) to drive, but they look like a streamlined Pontiac Aztec anyway, so yeah, fuck that thing.
Everyone in the family preferred the interior of the Nissan over the Kia ev6.
Some stupid things on the kia were a turn off, like the ugly throwing star wheels, and the fingerprint covered doors, since you have to press the handle in to have it "present itself" for pulling the door open, unless you go to the gt line trim.
We didn't find as good of deals as we hoped , but maybe I suck at negotiating. With the gt line level, the ev6 was a bit of a better deal than the Ariya, but because my wife who will be doing 95% of the driving likes the Ariya, we got an Ariya. We got the evolve+ AWD trim. It's pretty damn nice. I agree the inside is a significantly more upscale feeling than the ev6, really nice sunroof (I like sunroofs) and the range is outstanding. Drove it up to a lake in the uintas near trial lake and back to SLC and had more than 50% left. The land cruiser will get a lot less miles on it this year.
First time in my life I've leased a car, and first time I've ever had a brand new car in the quiver. Exterior wise, not as striking as the ev6, but whatever, what's another jelly bean on the road.
At least I talked her into the stone grey rather than black so it doesn't look dirty all the time.

[I've seen black diamonds!]

I drove the Mach and EV6 again. I prefer the Mach E's handling and interior. The EV6 has a smoother ride and still handles well. Power feels indentical in the trims I drove. The EV6 has, I think, a more functional trunk even though the Mach E trunk is bigger on paper. The Mach E is more touch screen heavy, which I don't like, but overall the controls were more intuitive to me and the EV6 "buttons" aren't tactile at all. Call it a wash. The driver assist crap and cameras on the Ford are pretty darn good, but the EV6 has better visibility, which is probably more important. The Ford has stupid futuristic door handles (also known as no door handles). Deciding between a used Mach E, which I prefer slightly for its driving dynamics, and a leased EV6. I've never leased a car and never planned on doing so, but the 24 month lease deal is very, very, very good.

I also spent some time the Ioniq 5 a while back. I just don't like the look of it, whereas I find the others attractive in their own ways. I like the Ioniq Interior more than the EV6 though. The sliding rear seats are nifty. All three are pretty damn similar, really. I'm especially impressed with how well they handle given how much they weigh.

[basinbeater]

They have low cg. Big batteries along the bottom of the car.

I think the Ioniq5 looks cool. Like a Honda crx 80s kind of cool. I like it. My wife not so much, so we didn't even look.

[J. Barron DeJong]

They have low cg. Big batteries along the bottom of the car.

I think the Ioniq5 looks cool. Like a Honda crx 80s kind of cool. I like it. My wife not so much, so we didn't even look.

Ioniq reminds me of the first car I ever drove, which was a 1990 Civic Si hatch (though it’s obviously much bigger).

I don’t care for the looks of the EV6, at all, but to each their own.

[WMD]

I have had an EV6 for over two years now and love it. It drives great, and the charging speed is amazing. So much faster than Ford. Road trips are painless in the EV6.

[frorider]

Ioniq 5 / EV6 owners—what real-world miles per kwhr are you averaging? With exterior crap like ski box or bikes on there? I recall an AWD comparison of these 2 where the EV6 had 10% more range thanks to better aerodynamics than the Ioniq.