New Season, New Tires, New Thread

[stuckathuntermtn]

Jenson has Vittoria tires cheap. I assume some kind of OEM overstock/closeout since it says no packaging. Just ordered Mazza 2.6 trail and Martello 2.35 trail. Should be good. I guess I'll report back in April.

[climberevan]

I only saw 14% off on most of them... The lady needs some fast tires so she can get used to no traction on preparation for the Breck Epic.

[sfotex]

I only saw 14% off on most of them... The lady needs some fast tires so she can get used to no traction on preparation for the Breck Epic.

There's a few mixed in: at 40% + off
https://www.jensonusa.com/Dirt-Tires?brand=Vittoria

[MarsB]

$40 assyguys, amongst other Maxxis deals

https://planetcyclery.com/search/?q=maxxis

[jm2e]

If you can get behind Specialized tires, they've got some pretty nice prices on their website. And at least they tell you exactly what tire you're getting before you order.

[MCS5280]

Anybody run the new purgatory in front yet? Thinking about pairing it with a ground control rear

[bthomson22]

New Revel Rascal is spec'd with Conti Kryptotal, but in the Trail Soft compound. I've been hearing good things about these tires. A Trail Soft might get me to pull the trigger (don't need Enduro, especially on the front - they're already heavy in their lightest layup).

From the site:
Continental Kryptotal 29" x 2.4" Trail Soft Front, Continental Xynotal 29" x 2.4" Trail Endurance Rear

[SJG]

I've never seen a trail casing and soft compound Kryptotal. Until now the trail casing has the trail compound. They only offer(ed) the enduro casing in the soft but not the super-soft, which is a bummer.

New Revel Rascal is spec'd with Conti Kryptotal, but in the Trail Soft compound. I've been hearing good things about these tires. A Trail Soft might get me to pull the trigger (don't need Enduro, especially on the front - they're already heavy in their lightest layup).

From the site:
Continental Kryptotal 29" x 2.4" Trail Soft Front, Continental Xynotal 29" x 2.4" Trail Endurance Rear

[Falcon3]

Yeah it's definitely a Revel misprint- the Trail doesn't come in Soft- just Endurance compound. https://www.continental-tires.com/pr...ppingDTacs=MTB

Everybody interested in an Enduro Super Soft should email Continental customer service and ask them to offer it.

[Andeh]

My speculation is that new Contis mid-April. Kryptotal Enduro Soft 29 is out of stock *everywhere* except 1 place I found in Germany. Bike Tires Direct says restock is mid-April, and in interviews Conti has said that Enduro Super Soft for front tires is something they'd release in the future (this was last year).

[bthomson22]

Yeah it's definitely a Revel misprint- the Trail doesn't come in Soft- just Endurance compound. https://www.continental-tires.com/pr...ppingDTacs=MTB

Everybody interested in an Enduro Super Soft should email Continental customer service and ask them to offer it.

I thought so at first - but then I noticed in the bike release video the compound/casing combo on the front tire is in fact trail and soft. Here's to hoping for trail/soft and enduro/supersoft.

[Andeh]

Clever, that's a solid sign of new combos coming soon.

[joetron]

Can confirm, the 2 new Rascals have Trail casing Soft compound

Edit to add: this casing/compound does not show up on QBP yet, and they are now the exclusive importer/distributor for Conti in USA. These bikes were boxed in Taiwan at revel’s new facility there, so obviously available OEM, but likely to show up at Q at some point this summer I’d imagine.


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[SJG]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh dream tires!

[dcpnz]

more indications of pending kryptotal trail soft - not available yet but listed coming soon on retailer website

https://www.racycles.com/equipment/c...-29-tire-25515

[Falcon3]

Siiiiick! Super stoked for an Enduro Super Soft front Kryp

[Meconium]

Michelin Force AM 2? Somewhat aggressive fast rolling rear "trail" tire. (Wasatch) Any thoughts? Fine with sacrificing the down a bit for longer rides. Looking for a bit more pedal then a pinner without loosing that much or getting into xr4 like territory.

[Roxtar]

If you can get behind Specialized tires, they've got some pretty nice prices on their website.

Fuck Specialized
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[skaredshtles]

Fuck Specialized
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I laffed.

[stuckathuntermtn]

As I said, the problem with Specialized tires is that as soon as you find one you like, they'll change or discontinue it. It's just an endless and confusing stream of newer-but-not-necessarily-better treads, casings, compounds, etc. Schwalbe does this a bit too, but I think they've actually managed to keep some designs for a while and at one point they improved durability and sizing.
Anyone else tired of Alphabet Soup?

[SJG]

ya, I'd much rather a mfg keep the name and change the product (as long as it's the same intended application), than re-invent the name and yet another thing I have to try to keep track of in my aging memory.

[stuckathuntermtn]

ya, I'd much rather a mfg keep the name and change the product (as long as it's the same intended application), than re-invent the name and yet another thing I have to try to keep track of in my aging memory.

Right but Specialized will so completely change some tire, that it might as well have a new name too.

[Toddball]

Tire puzzling....

I've been on an EXO+ Assegai/DHR II combo on my full squish bike and it's time for new tires. Have been running CushCore Pro front and rear since I broke a carbon rim in 2018 or so, and have not so much as dented a rim since then. I think the only flat I've had was a cut through the tread at a bike park that was too big for the sealant to deal with, which I filled on the scene with some medical tape. Still holding!

I'm kind of interested in more rolling speed, but also have gotten used to MaxxGrip Assegai in the front and don't want to be washing out all over the place. I did recently move from the PNWet to northern NM, so conditions are pretty different--namely, dry and rocky.

The bike, by the way, is a steel 29er with 150mm front/140mm rear travel.

Questions:
1. Will swapping from lighter tires with CushCore to heaver tires without inserts result in destroyed rims? I could save ~50g/wheel by going to DH Kryptotals (for example, assuming those are ever available again), and maybe DH casings hold up better to sharp rocks than EXO+?

2. Can I go with a firmer rubber compound in drier conditions? Don't have to worry about wet roots much anymore, but there are plenty of off-camber rock moves around here.

Thanks!

[SJG]

I am 190lbs kitted, and in front I run a relatively soft and light tire, DHF EXO Maxxgrip. My rear sidewalls get tested, fronts almost never (fronts rolling, rears skidding/drifting). So I run a liner in rear, never front. The DHF is immensely faster than the Assegai I ran prior. AND gives warning when it's reaching traction limits (very important).

I will switch to Kryptotal-F when they come out with a super soft enduro. I currently run a Kryptotal-R Enduro Soft, which I'm very happy with for desert and Wasatch riding. Kryptotal-R is faster than the DHR Maxxterra I used to roll, and a better overall tire IMO.

Xynotol a good option for rear too, faster.

[toast2266]

Questions:
1. Will swapping from lighter tires with CushCore to heaver tires without inserts result in destroyed rims? I could save ~50g/wheel by going to DH Kryptotals (for example, assuming those are ever available again), and maybe DH casings hold up better to sharp rocks than EXO+?

2. Can I go with a firmer rubber compound in drier conditions? Don't have to worry about wet roots much anymore, but there are plenty of off-camber rock moves around here.

Thanks!

1) I'm in the heavier tire, no insert camp. Mostly because I don't really like how inserts ride. But regardless, I haven't destroyed any carbon rims from impacts. ~8 years of running various carbon rims. Broke a couple, but I don't think any of the failures were from straight impacts to the bead. For reference, 160lbs, running 23-24 psi rear with dh casings, 25psi with DD.

2) I think tacky rubber matters a bit less in the desert. Desert riding is also hard on tires - sticky rubber gets chewed up a lot quicker than if you're riding loam and roots.