A-Basin skiers can eat a bag of dicks

[Full Trucker]

Monarch has long had a no dog at the base area except the parking lot. I got yelled at for having my on leash dog walking around. Sigh. My home ski area lets dogs everywhere off leash as long as they behave, as it should be.

The change for this season is that they also no longer allow dogs on uphill routes outside of operating hours either.

[Leshphilling77]

old Al retires this summer replaced by someone with a dick in their butt

I say 2 years

[The SnowShow]

Hopefully they’ll expand lift accessed mountain biking…

….ducks….

[MakersTeleMark]

Maybe they will open up a quaint Hogan Bowl Bump & Grind as a throwback to simpler times.

[Name Redacted]

Hopefully they’ll expand lift accessed mountain biking…

….ducks….

This is funny. Because they always swore that off. But I can see the corporate overlords making them do a bike haul now. It would be telling. Fuck you Al.

[gretch6364]

Monarch has long had a no dog at the base area except the parking lot. I got yelled at for having my on leash dog walking around. Sigh. My home ski area lets dogs everywhere off leash as long as they behave, as it should be.

I love my two pups, adore them to be honest, but ever since I had kids, my mind has changed about off leash outside of designated areas (not to mention people not picking up their shit).

I have come pretty close to punting a couple dogs in the face to protect my kids. I can’t even count the number of times walking to school, or on a hike or in a community area where I have seen a dog knock a kid over or act aggressive.

It takes a split second to change a kids life forever and if a dog latched onto my kid in front of me, I would euthanize it on the spot….myself.

And before you say it…my kids have spent their entire lives around dogs and I have never witnessed them mistreat a pup. Pisses me off that my 8 yo is still afraid of big dogs after being repeatedly knocked down walking to school minding his own business. I was soooo close to dumping some concentrated elk in heat piss on that dogs head to punish his owners. Pup would have loved it and hopefully rolled all over their couch.




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[The SnowShow]

This is funny. Because they always swore that off. But I can see the corporate overlords making them do a bike haul now. It would be telling. Fuck you Al.

A bike haul for the new Beavers trail and easy access to Lenawee would piss a lot of people off. I have to admit I wouldn’t mind.

[romeo tango]

^ ever think about carrying mace?
.

[uglymoney]

I love my two pups, adore them to be honest, but ever since I had kids, my mind has changed about off leash outside of designated areas (not to mention people not picking up their shit)

It takes a split second to change a kids life forever and if a dog latched onto my kid in front of me, I would euthanize it on the spot….myself



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I don't disagree with any of this really. I live in a completely different environment. My hill has trails and woods with nobody around. Also, few dogs, but the regulars are well behaved. A type of utopia not realistic at some or most places.

Monarch has a tiny base area on a busy weekend so I get it, sorta. The parking is expansive and adequate for dogs. Fucking rules though. Fucks sake.

[summit]

A bike haul for the new Beavers trail and easy access to Lenawee would piss a lot of people off. I have to admit I wouldn’t mind.

A lot of people? Not very many people make that climb. Honestly it is not that good of a trail. Bullshit access road climb from BML where 95% of people walk their bikes at least two if not three stretches. Descent is a wide trail with IMBA style "curated tech" without much flow and with a mid-descent climb. Then it gets fun but too steep for soil conditions and will erode. The view is nice. Worth it on an e-bike or a lift. If I am purely pedaling, I'm riding over the back, and I do that a lot. That's my opinion after hitting Beavers 4 times.

The lower trail (BML down) is much more fun.

[skiracer88_00]

A lot of people? Not very many people make that climb. Honestly it is not that good of a trail. Bullshit access road climb from BML where 95% of people walk their bikes at least two if not three stretches. Descent is a wide trail with IMBA style "curated tech" without much flow and with a mid-descent climb. Then it gets fun but too steep for soil conditions and will erode. The view is nice. Worth it on an e-bike or a lift. If I am purely pedaling, I'm riding over the back, and I do that a lot. That's my opinion after hitting Beavers 4 times.

The lower trail (BML down) is much more fun.

Ill agree to disagree. I love the beavers trail and think that it is super unique to have something like that in an alpine environment.

I also love the Lenawee trail, but for different reasons. You can't really compare the two because they are so different. I wouldn't mind having lift served biking on Lenawee and Beavers. There are plenty of trails to pedal up in summit and clear creek counties for when I want to get away from it all.

[Name Redacted]

A lot of people? Not very many people make that climb. Honestly it is not that good of a trail. Bullshit access road climb from BML where 95% of people walk their bikes at least two if not three stretches. Descent is a wide trail with IMBA style "curated tech" without much flow and with a mid-descent climb. Then it gets fun but too steep for soil conditions and will erode. The view is nice. Worth it on an e-bike or a lift. If I am purely pedaling, I'm riding over the back, and I do that a lot. That's my opinion after hitting Beavers 4 times.

The lower trail (BML down) is much more fun.

They are making the single track climb all the way to the top eventually.

I think the trail is pretty OK, plus you can also defend single track all the way to your car in keystone if you do it right. Been riding lenawee for 25 years so it is nice to switch it up. Lenawee is actually pretty short for all that work and shuttling.

[Name Redacted]

I heard they are officially changing the name to “A-Bay”. Theyll be handing out nice warm bags of dicks in the lift line to compete with beaver creek’s cookies.

[The SnowShow]

A lot of people? Not very many people make that climb. Honestly it is not that good of a trail. Bullshit access road climb from BML where 95% of people walk their bikes at least two if not three stretches. Descent is a wide trail with IMBA style "curated tech" without much flow and with a mid-descent climb. Then it gets fun but too steep for soil conditions and will erode. The view is nice. Worth it on an e-bike or a lift. If I am purely pedaling, I'm riding over the back, and I do that a lot. That's my opinion after hitting Beavers 4 times.

The lower trail (BML down) is much more fun.

I just figure people will be pissed if Lenawee Trail is suddenly easily accessible without the climb. Also, I think they built a MTB uphill trail so you can avoid the access road? I thought something opened late last year?

If they went all in and cut a bunch of good trails, that would be quite a spot for downhill. Lift accessed alpine MTB.

[summit]

Except for the short season... but I'd bet they stay open longer than Keystone's "5 days a week 2 months a year"

They should cut trails into Zuma bowl. South facing!!!!

[Full Trucker]

I just figure people will be pissed if Lenawee Trail is suddenly easily accessible without the climb. Also, I think they built a MTB uphill trail so you can avoid the access road? I thought something opened late last year?

If they went all in and cut a bunch of good trails, that would be quite a spot for downhill. Lift accessed alpine MTB.

I'd personally oscillate between pissed and amused. Pissed because providing easy access to Lenawee could/would put a bunch of traffic on a pretty primitive trail, and change the character of it to where it's shitty, like everything else that lots of people discover. But also, even with lift access you'd still need to figure out a shuttle and/or pedal up HWY 6 from Keystone just to get to the lift (or back to your car if you're a complete fucking idiot) so I also don't think that many more folks would ride it if there was a lift. And those that did not knowing they'd have to pedal a few thousand vert back to the base of the Basin won't do that twice... which would be amusing.

[Name Redacted]

My wife after riding Lenawee one time: "Oh I was supposed to bring the keys?" She did offer to ride up to get the car solo but I told her "No, you are gonna watch me suffer as your punishment". haha

[summit]

I think Lenawee is over a lot of people's heads in terms of technical endurance/skill. They'll do it once, then go "that was enough thank you." It is a continuous forearm pounding of square edge htis, baby head rocks. Plus the no-fall zone rock gardens and off camber followed by overgrown technical up.

[Full Trucker]

I think Lenawee is over a lot of people's heads in terms of technical endurance/skill. They'll do it once, then go "that was enough thank you." It is a continuous forearm pounding of square edge htis, baby head rocks. Plus the no-fall zone rock gardens and off camber followed by overgrown technical up.

Then there's the people for whom Lenawee is just too damn short for, and don't ride it unless they also ride one or two additional trails on the way back to Keystone. Fucking psychopaths.

[skaredshtles]

Then there's the people for whom Lenawee is just too damn short for, and don't ride it unless they also ride one or two additional trails on the way back to Keystone. Fucking psychopaths.

[skiracer88_00]

Then there's the people for whom Lenawee is just too damn short for, and don't ride it unless they also ride one or two additional trails on the way back to Keystone. Fucking psychopaths.

One of my favorite rides I've done is Keystone-->ABasin (hwy6) --> lenawee-->argentine pass out and back --> as much single-track as possible back to keystone. That was pretty much a full day of riding.

[Name Redacted]

No.

There are not.

Oh, I thought y'all were talking about another Montezuma. My bad'

[skaredshtles]

Oh, I thought y'all were talking about another Montezuma. My bad'

[Name Redacted]

Gullies opened yesterday. They were pretty darn good.

[summit]

I got SG1 before it closed... lots of rocks but they weren't a problem. It was niiiice.