New Foot Scanner App

[Sandbox]

Anything standout here?? Fairly normal?

App seemingly worked well. Picked up my right being slightly larger.


Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums

[Dromond]

An expensive and heavy solution might be a Zipfit GFT with a bunch of extra Omfit pumped into all three areas. If Atomic Professional XTD liners show up this season, they might help and are less expensive, and you could swap out the tongue for an HV one (red). Also consider permanently gluing 3-4mm of cork to the entire bottom of your footbeds instead of dealing with multiple sheets of Bontex.

For alpine I think the zipfit could be awesome l, and I have heard great things. I’m a little skeptical of the forefoot fit, but have never skied one. For touring, it seems like the weight increase could be substantial?

[durangobrad]

Judging from your scans, the Panterra definitely has more volume than you need - it is basically a 102mm boot with a "100mm" option that tightens the toebox but nothing else. Do you want a 3-piece shell? Do you require a walk mode? The low volume 98mm Krypton/Lupo option is unfortunately disappearing this season . . . going narrower will solve much of the "looseness" issues; there is no "right" or "wrong" answer to 26.5 vs 27.5, but going 26.5 will require a more skilled bootfitter.

If you are open to 2-piece shells, there are many other options.

Do you have any thoughts on the K2 Recon 130 LV in 27.5. Looks like the last is 98.

[gregL]

Do you have any thoughts on the K2 Recon 130 LV in 27.5. Looks like the last is 98.

It skis well but runs soft. Love the colorblock wildness and the heat moldable potential is good. K2's 98mm last fits like 99-100 in other brands, which isn't necessarily good for you. Do you have a K2 hookup?

[durangobrad]

It skis well but runs soft. Love the colorblock wildness and the heat moldable potential is good. K2's 98mm last fits like 99-100 in other brands, which isn't necessarily good for you. Do you have a K2 hookup?

No hookup, just some steep deals online at the moment.

https://www.levelninesports.com/prod...ski-boots-2021



Sent from my Pixel 6a using Tapatalk

[durangobrad]

No hookup, just some steep deals online at the moment.

https://www.levelninesports.com/prod...ski-boots-2021



Sent from my Pixel 6a using Tapatalk

There are some other good deals on there as well, that might fit my narrow last better?

https://www.christysports.com/produc...s/0455088.html
Head nexo 120 RS

https://www.levelninesports.com/prod...ski-boots-2021
Nexo LYT

[gregL]

There are some other good deals on there as well, that might fit my narrow last better?

https://www.christysports.com/produc...s/0455088.html
Head nexo 120 RS

https://www.levelninesports.com/prod...ski-boots-2021
Nexo LYT

I have no experience with the Nexo/Nexo LYT, but the price is hard to beat.

[durangobrad]

I have no experience with the Nexo/Nexo LYT, but the price is hard to beat.

Yeah I can spend my saved $ on some boot fitting!

Sent from my Pixel 6a using Tapatalk

[gregL]

For alpine I think the zipfit could be awesome l, and I have heard great things. I’m a little skeptical of the forefoot fit, but have never skied one. For touring, it seems like the weight increase could be substantial?

Shouldn't change the forefoot fit - there is no Omfit in the front of the liner. Yes, they are heavy. The recommendation is based on the ability to add volume to the tongue.

[gregL]

Anything standout here?? Fairly normal?

App seemingly worked well. Picked up my right being slightly larger.


Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums

Can you convert to metric, please? Also, give me both left and right images and at least one from slightly above (rotate the image on your phone before you screenshot it). What do you mean by "normal," and what issues are you trying to resolve?

[gregL]

Yeah I can spend my saved $ on some boot fitting!

Sent from my Pixel 6a using Tapatalk

There's no guarantee the Nexo LYT is a better choice than the Recon LV, however, and they're the same price.

[Sandbox]

Can you convert to metric, please? Also, give me both left and right images and at least one from slightly above (rotate the image on your phone before you screenshot it). What do you mean by "normal," and what issues are you trying to resolve?

I’ve been told I have a high in step and also told I have” normal” feet ( no instep issues) . Currently in 25.5 Cochise that I think are just slightly too small so looking at changing things up a bit as they have been punched for length.


Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums

[durangobrad]

With some bootfitting help, you should be able to make most low volume boots work (i.e. 97-98mm lasts). The question is whether to shoot for a 26.5 or stick with your "nominal" size of 27.5. I can't see your toe configuration without tilting the images, but if your toes are all nearly the same length (not especially big toe dominant) downsizing should work with a bit of a toe length punch on the left. I can't really see you ankle or calf shape/size either, which affects boot choice. Other options, like flex and forward lean, are quite personal - what boot are you in now and what do you like and not like about it?

Do you think a fitter would be able to make the Atomic Hawk Ultra 130 S in 26.5 work?

[gregL]

Do you think a fitter would be able to make the Atomic Hawk Ultra 130 S in 26.5 work?

Some fitters are better than others, but I think you should stay in a 25.5 if possible, unless your big toe is 5mm or more longer than your second toe (doesn't look like it, but the bottom image is cut off). The Verifyt app measures about 3-5mm shorter than a Brannock, but with a normal forefoot curvature and decent footbed, etc. a 25.5 should be doable, possible with a length punch for the right. I think you'll really benefit from the lower volume of the smaller shell.

PS Your instep is on the high end of the spectrum for your foot length, but not crazy tall. The app just measures the height at the apex of the curve between instep and ankle, so a prominent intermediate cuneiform can throw off the instep fit (can't really set it in your images, you have to rotate the image to either side). If you get the Atomic Hawx Ultra, make sure you fitter puts foam over the instep before heat molding.

[gregL]

Some fitters are better than others, but I think you should stay in a 25.5 if possible, unless your big toe is 5mm or more longer than your second toe (doesn't look like it, but the bottom image is cut off). The Verifyt app measures about 3-5mm shorter than a Brannock, but with a normal forefoot curvature and decent footbed, etc. a 25.5 should be doable, possible with a length punch for the right. I think you'll really benefit from the lower volume of the smaller shell.

PS Your instep is on the high end of the spectrum for your foot length, but not crazy tall. The app just measures the height at the apex of the curve between instep and ankle, so a prominent intermediate cuneiform can throw off the instep fit (can't really set it in your images, you have to rotate the image to either side). If you get the Atomic Hawx Ultra, make sure you fitter puts foam over the instep before heat molding.

There are some other reasons people can't/won't size down besides prominent big toe. Poor grooming (toenails too long), habitual hucking to flat and landing back seat, habitual back seat skiing in general, poor fore/aft retention due to inappropriate footbed or too roomy a cuff/midfoot fit, etc. (Not to mention simply not being accustomed to a performance fit and assuming that pressure on the toes won't work out - bootfitters will sometimes ask if a customer has experience playing hockey, rock climbing, or ballet dancing as those people understand the performance-to-tight fit equation already.

[durangobrad]

Some fitters are better than others, but I think you should stay in a 25.5 if possible, unless your big toe is 5mm or more longer than your second toe (doesn't look like it, but the bottom image is cut off). The Verifyt app measures about 3-5mm shorter than a Brannock, but with a normal forefoot curvature and decent footbed, etc. a 25.5 should be doable, possible with a length punch for the right. I think you'll really benefit from the lower volume of the smaller shell.

PS Your instep is on the high end of the spectrum for your foot length, but not crazy tall. The app just measures the height at the apex of the curve between instep and ankle, so a prominent intermediate cuneiform can throw off the instep fit (can't really set it in your images, you have to rotate the image to either side). If you get the Atomic Hawx Ultra, make sure you fitter puts foam over the instep before heat molding.

I think you might be looking at someone else's scan. I'm on the fence between 27.5 and 26.5.


Sent from my Pixel 6a using Tapatalk

[gregL]

I think you might be looking at someone else's scan. I'm on the fence between 27.5 and 26.5.


Sent from my Pixel 6a using Tapatalk

Sorry, I meant 26.5 instead of 27.5 if possible.

[caderader]

App seems to be very accurate, results pretty similar to what I got from a fancy Volumental scanner at a fleet feet.

Fyi if you've ever done a Volumental at a running store you can make it give you the actual measurements, just go to the email they sent, copy the link, and change the link from:

https://my.volumental.com/en/fleet_feet_fitstation_beta/"your_unique_ID"/?utm_medium=myvemail

To

https://my.volumental.com/uploads/"your_unique_ID"/measurements.json

Credit for the Volumental discovery to this reddit thread - https://www.reddit.com/r/Cordwaining/s/h5IHgyBqxE

Based on my results I'm planning on getting a 26.5 zipfit gara HV. That make sense? Also when it's time to upgrade boots what's my recommendation? A LV 26.5 shell?

I'm in old 27.5 FTs that I bought online as a relative rookie without understanding the importance of a bootfitter, they work but are obviously too sloppy. I'll be going to a bootfitter for shells this time but just wanted to get an idea of what my starting point is.

Thoughts?

Sent from my Pixel 7a using Tapatalk

[Bamski]

Running 25.5 Radical Pros with GFTs.

My feet are really difficult to fit. I’ve been in some plugs as a teen / ski 24.5 promachines with some work now for alpine laps.

I’ve never loved my touring boots. I can never get solid ankle lock down without resorting to something like a Zipfit. Radicals are the best I’ve had so far, but they’re still pretty heavy and wider than I’d like.

Also as a ratio to foot length -is my instep the most aggressive here?

[gregL]

App seems to be very accurate, results pretty similar to what I got from a fancy Volumental scanner at a fleet feet.

Have not used the Volumental app, but it looks cool. My take from your Verifyt results is: 26.5 is the longest boot you should buy (25.5 is a possibility, but I can't tell without seeing your toes in more detail. 98mm is the widest boot you should buy, but some models will likely take some work to enhance instep height (you are above the average range for 26.5 insteps, which is 65mm-70mm). I can't see the shape of your ankle well without rotating the images, but it looks like a very oblong shape - this might be an issue on the front of your shin/ankle with narrow cuff boots like the Atomic Hawx Ultra and Salomon S/Pro Alpha, but again it should be the bootfitter's call. Good luck!

[gregL]

Running 25.5 Radical Pros with GFTs.

My feet are really difficult to fit. I’ve been in some plugs as a teen / ski 24.5 promachines with some work now for alpine laps.

I’ve never loved my touring boots. I can never get solid ankle lock down without resorting to something like a Zipfit. Radicals are the best I’ve had so far, but they’re still pretty heavy and wider than I’d like.

Also as a ratio to foot length -is my instep the most aggressive here?

There's no magic answer to getting really good heel retention in light touring boots; none of them come with a narrow ankle/cuff because they also need to prioritize cuff mobility and if they were to build them narrower they wouldn't fit most average ankles. Zipfit GFT is an option, but expensive and heavy, adding 350 to 400 grams to your "ultralight" boot. Intuition is lighter but has kind of a spongey feel and packs out more quickly. Yes, your instep is very high for a 25/25.5 length foot.

[Dromond]

I think an intuition liner made with their stiffer foam - like the pro wrap and pro tongue liners - but with a flex zone added to it could fill the volume without feeling super spongey. The intuition tour and luxury liners however feel crazy soft and spongy to me. I’ve never gotten them to work that well. I just end up touring in pro wrap which is pretty stiff and restrictive, but are light and ski well

[Bamski]

There's no magic answer to getting really good heel retention in light touring boots; none of them come with a narrow ankle/cuff because they also need to prioritize cuff mobility and if they were to build them narrower they wouldn't fit most average ankles. Zipfit GFT is an option, but expensive and heavy, adding 350 to 400 grams to your "ultralight" boot. Intuition is lighter but has kind of a spongey feel and packs out more quickly. Yes, your instep is very high for a 25/25.5 length foot.

Putting you on the spot Greg, but any other touring specific boots you’d suggest I keep on my radar? I’m holding out hope the new ZGTP might accommodate me better, but it’s already a low instep so I’m not sure how much it could be improved with the advertised higher (~1-2mm of space) instep.

[gregL]

Putting you on the spot Greg, but any other touring specific boots you’d suggest I keep on my radar? I’m holding out hope the new ZGTP might accommodate me better, but it’s already a low instep so I’m not sure how much it could be improved with the advertised higher (~1-2mm of space) instep.

I haven't put my foot in one yet - our retailer demo was cancelled due to torrential rain today. Word is they tried to improve heel retention by adding foam around the Achilles, and I'm sure you can still spot heat the instep and raise it with an expander tool as well as grind the bootboard . . .

[PhishingME]

Recently purchased some 27.5 Lange XT3 140 LV boots, and think they're possibly to big. Any thoughts?