School me on race skis

[anotherVTskibum]

Bought these tonight on the right. They were listed as 180 I think, but they are 182. These are possibly kids/teen skis though and I'm gonna break them in half? They seems fucking stout as fuck.

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Do they have a radius listed? That's usually helpful in figuring out vintage and target age.

[VTskibum]

Bought these tonight on the right. They were listed as 180 I think, but they are 182. These are possibly kids/teen skis though and I'm gonna break them in half? They seems fucking stout as fuck.

No race background, but I've put many many days on an older teen GS 175ish Volkl P-something or other. They finally delammed in the tail a little bit, but they're 15+ years old. Doubt you're going to fold them.

[Whiteroom_Guardian]

Do they have a radius listed? That's usually helpful in figuring out vintage and target age.

They are labeled FIS and according to what I can find are 23 radius.

[Mofro261]

They are labeled FIS and according to what I can find are 23 radius.

Thats a masters ski/ old womens FIS, not a kid ski. It is what you seek.

[Whiteroom_Guardian]

Thats a masters ski/ old womens FIS, not a kid ski. It is what you seek.

Sweet. The 183 Ficher GS are 27 radius. Will my 200 pound buddy fold those in half?

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[Mofro261]

Sweet. The 183 Ficher GS are 27 radius. Will my 200 pound buddy fold those in half?

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Nah, that's the old Men's FIS norm up to ~2013ish, then it went to 35M and back to 30M. Bigger dudes ~240+ don't fold them either and folding is not an issue unless one is trying to force a sub 15M turn, which there's no need to when not being forced to turn where gates are set.

The only skis that might fold from an adult skiing them are true kids skis in the 170-179 range but most of those are sub-21M and are made with a lighter construction.

[SoVT Joey]

Sweet. The 183 Ficher GS are 27 radius. Will my 200 pound buddy fold those in half?

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I agree you will be fine on them. I was on a 188 of that same era and the ones that Gajin posted. I was 230 when I was lifting and on juice and never had a problem, only skis i broke were when I wrecked in a downhill crash

[Whiteroom_Guardian]

Shit like 50% and they mooooove. Fast. Fun.

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[bry]

Yeah dudes! No time wasted. [emoji1690]

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[alpinevibes]

You dudes are making me want to mount up these dumpster finds. I’ve got some old FKS Course 14’s that would fit






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[singlesline]

The super long radius race (non-speed) skis still mystify me.

I raced in high school in the era of short super turny slalom skis. Big Bode Miller Racing on 155s.

I had a pair of race stock Salomon equipe 10 3v they were “long” at 168 with a 15m turning radius. We didn’t do GS but I think they looked about like the pair above with fairly short radius. Turning >30m skis through a GS course sounds rough.

[J. Barron DeJong]

The super long radius race (non-speed) skis still mystify me.

I raced in high school in the era of short super turny slalom skis. Big Bode Miller Racing on 155s.

I had a pair of race stock Salomon equipe 10 3v they were “long” at 168 with a 15m turning radius. We didn’t do GS but I think they looked about like the pair above with fairly short radius. Turning >30m skis through a GS course sounds rough.

Try a 203cm, ~70m slalom ski. Just stupid looking back now.

My last year racing (just high school, not elite) kids were just starting to get into shaped skis. I would have been so much better if I had of jumped on that bandwagon early (and if my parents could have afforded new gear).

[1000-oaks]

Think this pair originally belonged to iRip's family, is it a U16 ski? 176 Head i.GS RD.

I finally picked up race bindings for them. If the 176 is too small for my 170 lbs of slack, I have a new women's 183 30m Fischer RC4 GS collecting dust.

[bry]

Think this pair originally belonged to iRip's family, is it a U16 ski? 176 Head i.GS RD.

I finally picked up race bindings for them. If the 176 is too small for my 170 lbs of slack, I have a new women's 183 30m Fischer RC4 GS collecting dust.

The "team" labeled skis are the tweener line and I think this is the same recreational gs construction in 176, 181, 186 if with the WCR 14 plate.

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[RShea]

Sweet. The 183 Ficher GS are 27 radius. Will my 200 pound buddy fold those in half?

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Probably not unless they are old enough to now have some sort of damage or they are delaminating. They have probably a double layer wood and Titanal core in them plus a the binding race plate under foot. Photos of the top sheet and colors and graphics design (Yellow and Black, Yellow, Black and some red in the graphics, then later years they were the charcoal with yellow lettering etc.) would be able to tell the vintage year(s) within 2 or 3. The Fischer 183 cm were depending on the year and if Women or Men's were anywhere from 21 meter up to 35 meter with 27 meter the FIS standard for a while as they went up over the years to 35 for men for a bit.

[RShea]

You dudes are making me want to mount up these dumpster finds. I’ve got some old FKS Course 14’s that would fit






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Do it and give them a try. If truly were a dumpster find, you have nothing to lose other than the time to get the bindings drilled mounted up as long as the still have good edges that can be sharpened up and no type of core damage or delamination...

[iriponsnow]

Think this pair originally belonged to iRip's family, is it a U16 ski? 176 Head i.GS RD.

I finally picked up race bindings for them. If the 176 is too small for my 170 lbs of slack, I have a new women's 183 30m Fischer RC4 GS collecting dust.

Yea… my skier is 110 pounds + / -

[utagonian]

You dudes are making me want to mount up these dumpster finds. I’ve got some old FKS Course 14’s that would fit






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I could be wrong but I think those are c. 2000-2004ish. Fun size/radius for free skiing. I think you might want a plate of some kind with your fks binders.

[alpinevibes]

I could be wrong but I think those are c. 2000-2004ish. Fun size/radius for free skiing. I think you might want a plate of some kind with your fks binders.

I’ve got these ones with a plate that I was thinking of. The plate was a bitch to pull off the Rossi ski they were on and had some crazy black glue shit, but I can probably figure out getting the plates reattached

[anotherVTskibum]

I’ve got these ones with a plate that I was thinking of. The plate was a bitch to pull off the Rossi ski they were on and had some crazy black glue shit, but I can probably figure out getting the plates reattached

Can't tell 100% from the photo, but those look like the plastic version of the plates with a mid-90s retail binding. Having skied both components when they were new (albeit not together), it wouldn't be my first choice if you happened to have other options, and I'd keep a close eye on the condition of the plates (I never pulled the binding out, but mine actually deformed around the heel screws, but I was running Drivers which might have a wider pattern then the Look heel).


The vertical heel travel on the bindings is really nice to have, but the plastic bumpers on either side of the heel reduce clearance before they hit the snow (the contemporary race room version, as well as later retail versions as far as I've seen, have skinnier metal ears where the arms meet the heel plate).

[dcpnz]

^^ alpinevibes. If you have any concern about plastic lifters per VTbum’s comment ….. pretty sure I’ve got a set with metal inserts that’ll work with those bindings if you want them…..

[alpinevibes]

Yeah they’re a plastic plate and I do think they have plastic bumpers where the heel arms come down.

Dave - thanks I may holler at you for those


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[S.B.]

I picked up some 182cm Blizzard FIS GS skis with a 23m radius. Used them once and liked them so far. Does anyone know how old they might be, and who would have been racing on them?

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[J. Barron DeJong]

I picked up some 182cm Blizzard FIS GS skis with a 23m radius. Used them once and liked them so far. Does anyone know how old they might be, and who would have been racing on them?

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Probably 2008-2012. That’s when womens regulation was 23m minimum.

These are 2012:

[RShea]

I picked up some 182cm Blizzard FIS GS skis with a 23m radius. Used them once and liked them so far. Does anyone know how old they might be, and who would have been racing on them?

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Graphics may matter (not a Blizzard follower as much as some other brands) so post up a photo of the graphic top sheet...