Trucks.

[fomofo]

Beating the dead horse.



https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/commen...30_years_apart

[heckacali]

Single vs crew cab fail.
Maybe even 2wd vs 4wd fail.

[nickwm21]

Reminds me of this.




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[oldnew_guy]

Beating the dead horse.



https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/commen...30_years_apart

Whatever regulations are allowing/forcing this need to change.

The new IIHS report states that vehicles with "especially tall front ends," namely those with a hood height larger than 40 inches, are most dangerous to pedestrians. The report also shows that vehicles with a hood height somewhere between 30 and 40 inches, where the leading edge of the car is a blunt profile (think boxy SUV), also increase risk to pedestrians.
"Some of today's vehicles are pretty intimidating when you're passing in front of them in a crosswalk,” IIHS president David Harkey said. "These results tell us our instincts are correct: More aggressive-looking vehicles can indeed do more harm." The report notes that the average passenger vehicle in the U.S. is four inches wider, 10 inches longer, eight inches taller, and 1000 pounds heavier than its counterparts of 30 years ago. It also points out that hoods of many large pickups are just about at eye level for many adults.



https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4...s-pedestrians/

[nickwm21]

Whatever regulations are allowing/forcing this need to change.

The new IIHS report states that vehicles with "especially tall front ends," namely those with a hood height larger than 40 inches, are most dangerous to pedestrians. The report also shows that vehicles with a hood height somewhere between 30 and 40 inches, where the leading edge of the car is a blunt profile (think boxy SUV), also increase risk to pedestrians.
"Some of today's vehicles are pretty intimidating when you're passing in front of them in a crosswalk,” IIHS president David Harkey said. "These results tell us our instincts are correct: More aggressive-looking vehicles can indeed do more harm." The report notes that the average passenger vehicle in the U.S. is four inches wider, 10 inches longer, eight inches taller, and 1000 pounds heavier than its counterparts of 30 years ago. It also points out that hoods of many large pickups are just about at eye level for many adults.



https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4...s-pedestrians/

It’s not regulations driving the supersize of vehicles. It’s sales.


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[oldnew_guy]

It’s not regulations driving the supersize of vehicles. It’s sales.


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From my reading this problem is a little bit of a chicken or the egg problem. It appears that fuel standards and the vehicle classes they apply to pushed manufactures to make their vehicles bigger to meet fleet mileage standards, while simultaneously realizing they could make more money and they launched advertising campaigns to sell more of the larger vehicles.

They could probably change the entire market by changing the safety tests to include overall safety to the occupants and to other vehicles and pedestrians. AFAIK they don't test trucks versus sedans, small SUV's, etc.

[bodywhomper]

I saw Toyota will be rolling out a truck outside of NA that will be a price point lower then the hilux

[anotherVTskibum]

It’s not regulations driving the supersize of vehicles. It’s sales.


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On the high end, it's perceived customer preference.

For smaller SUVs, regulations probably play a roll; meeting the standards for "capable of off-highway operation" is part of classifying as a light truck rather than a passenger car.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/small-...tions-to-blame

[Toadman]

It’s not regulations driving the supersize of vehicles. It’s sales.


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I thought it was Americans getting fatter/bigger.

[frorider]

What cracks me up is that the Brodozer tall and long front clip, purely for marketing purposes, is creating engine bays with a bunch of wasted space especially as midsize engines crank out huge torque these days.

[MakersTeleMark]

This made sense to me.

[Phall]

Saw so many newer Hilux in Mexico, thats the dream truck.

[unitofstuff]

Got this $500 bucket about a month ago. After cleaning it up and driving it some, it grew on me so I started getting deeper with maintenance and making it nicer. Went out with my dad and Wasatch Cruisers into the Uintas to get a Christmas tree and dick around in the snow. This thing was a champion. I've had SUVs, wagons, sedans, coupes, etc. but never an actual truck, and I've been enjoying it.

[El Chupacabra]

Only $500?!!!?!?

What was wrong with it? (what justified a price lower than parting it out?)

[jmedslc]

Only $500?!!!?!?

What was wrong with it? (what justified a price lower than parting it out?)

+1. Didn’t know you could get that much metal for 500 let alone a decent truck. Nice score!

[unitofstuff]

Only $500?!!!?!?

What was wrong with it? (what justified a price lower than parting it out?)

I think its biggest sin was it had previously belonged to a now-ex-husband of the person I got it from and had been more or less just sitting for about three years. Not mechanically inclined, not interested in dealing with it. $500 was what the junkyard offered her. It was also pretty nasty inside, it had been pretty heavily smoked in, dirty, some interior bits needed to be fixed. Needed a battery, alignment, tires. Still needs brakes and an oil pan gasket (all sitting in the garage, plus some other maintenance items/fluids). Frame has a good layer of surface rust on everything, but no rot and the body seems pretty rust free.

Pulled the seats, found all the old cigarette butts, an afternoon with the carpet cleaner, wiped down all the hard surfaces, a new console lid, real fitted floor mats, and a few hours with the ozone generator has the interior pretty damn decent now. I'll sort through the rest of the mechanical stuff as I go.

[gaijin]

That's a project truck. I spent about 8 years replacing everything on my old Blazer. Rolled it down a hill when I had a check in an envelope ready to be mailed for a new wiring harness. That would have been the final thing to be replaced.

Keep tinkering. No deadline. Doesn't have to become a money pit but can become a fun hobby.

https://www.lmctruck.com for parts. There are other retailers out there.

[El Chupacabra]

I think its biggest sin was it had previously belonged to a now-ex-husband of the person I got it from and had been more or less just sitting for about three years. Not mechanically inclined, not interested in dealing with it. $500 was what the junkyard offered her. It was also pretty nasty inside, it had been pretty heavily smoked in, dirty, some interior bits needed to be fixed. Needed a battery, alignment, tires. Still needs brakes and an oil pan gasket (all sitting in the garage, plus some other maintenance items/fluids). Frame has a good layer of surface rust on everything, but no rot and the body seems pretty rust free.

Pulled the seats, found all the old cigarette butts, an afternoon with the carpet cleaner, wiped down all the hard surfaces, a new console lid, real fitted floor mats, and a few hours with the ozone generator has the interior pretty damn decent now. I'll sort through the rest of the mechanical stuff as I go.

Excellent find.

[Name Redacted]

New camper on the Tundra. It has a lift, 5100's, add a leaf, airbags, and E-rated tires to handle the load. Drove great to southern UT and back. I've already used the traction boards and tow strap to unstick a few vehicles on turkey day.

[XXX-er]

This made sense to me.

also the chicken tax

[Whiteroom_Guardian]

I'm really starting to get the itch for a new truck. I've been fighting it, but it might be time. 2012 Tundra Rock Warrior Double Cab 5.7L V8 with the 6.5' bed. It's a fucking beast but drinks fuel like a fucking pig. 211k miles. Seems like re-sale is still pretty high on these.

It's mechanically awesome, but the interior is lacking a bit of comfort. Especially when you get in a newer truck and go, "oh yeah...these things are fucking nice now."

Unless I am missing something I haven't seen a single newer used Tundra with the new 6cyl that has a decent package AND the longer bed. All the nice ones have the 5.5' grocery getter bed.

Another selling point for me is that my truck is pretty important for my work. Not only am I IN my truck all the time i'm also going to clients houses and driving them around occasionally. The paint on my current truck is pretty fucked up from some skinny FS road driving and 10+ years of rocks hitting it etc.

So, who has a newer Tundra with the efficient 6cyl? Is it the tits?

[Northway]

2022 Tundra v6 Crew Max with 6.5’ bed. Bought it a year ago now and have put a bit over 10k miles on it, and loving it. Came from multiple Subaru outback’s but outgrew them with the family. Two kids that are creeping up on teenage years and they love the room in the back seat, it’s immense. It’s a big rig, and I can barely turn it around in a standard cul-de sac, but maybe I’m just used to the Subarus.

I’ve been +20 mpg on a few highway road trips, but typically 17.5-19 mix town and highway. No shortage of power, it’s pretty quick when needed, but I don’t haul any heavy loads, and only pull a raft trailer.

Super comfortable, and drives like a car. Missoula based, no winter issues with some weight in the back, still running oem tires, but just picked up another set of rims and will get some proper winter tires which will add some confidence on snow covered highways.

Only downside I’ve found is it still has maybe the ugliest grill of any recent vehicle I’ve seen.

[The Reverend Floater]

I'm really starting to get the itch for a new truck. I've been fighting it, but it might be time. 2012 Tundra Rock Warrior Double Cab 5.7L V8 with the 6.5' bed. It's a fucking beast but drinks fuel like a fucking pig. 211k miles. Seems like re-sale is still pretty high on these.

It's mechanically awesome, but the interior is lacking a bit of comfort. Especially when you get in a newer truck and go, "oh yeah...these things are fucking nice now."

Unless I am missing something I haven't seen a single newer used Tundra with the new 6cyl that has a decent package AND the longer bed. All the nice ones have the 5.5' grocery getter bed.

Another selling point for me is that my truck is pretty important for my work. Not only am I IN my truck all the time i'm also going to clients houses and driving them around occasionally. The paint on my current truck is pretty fucked up from some skinny FS road driving and 10+ years of rocks hitting it etc.

So, who has a newer Tundra with the efficient 6cyl? Is it the tits?

I don't think the new tundra is going to be a huge mpg improvement from what I hear. It's way nicer than the old one but not terribly efficient. No full sized pick up is going to be much better unless you go either lightning or diesel.

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[AmmergauerTele]

I have a 2021 Silverado 1500 with the 6 cylinder Duramax diesel, crew cab. I get around 23-25 mpg in town, 28-30 on the highway going 75mph+. I've pushed 36mpg once per the computer once driving back from North Carolina.

[Hopeless Sinner]

WRG- Keep the truck and get a higher mpg "town and work car."