This week in Canada.

[liv2ski]

Pretty baked once and went out to dinner with my wife and had one beer. Driving home I get pulled over, the cop smells one beer on my breath then says I failed the sobriety test because I was stoned, so they took me to jail. So when I blew in the breathalyzer downtown, nothing showed up so the dicks had to give me a ride home. Fun times.

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[BCMtnHound]

This could get interesting. Canada accusing India of killing a Canadian Sikh on our soil.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tru...jjar-1.6970498

Relations have been strained for some time between India and Canada, and there’s a long tradition of Sikh separatists living in Canada. No excuse for an extrajudicial killing.

[ex-powderbroker]

Wasn't JT just there? Did he give his nuts a tug and say something?

[BCMtnHound]

Apparently there were words between him and India’s PM. Our National Security Advisor travelled to the UK instead of return to Canada with the rest of the delegation when they returned from the G20 meeting. We’ve kicked out India’s senior foreign intelligence diplomat, but I doubt the expulsions will stop there.

[Kenny Satch]

If "credible evidence" where the basis of expelling any diplomat then why hasn't he done that with Chinese diplomats when there is actual evidence of election interference and influencing?
JT is picking a fight India to make up for his lack of courage when it come to standing up to China. He didn't vote for a declaration condemning the treatment of the Uighur.

Canada's House of Commons has voted overwhelmingly to declare China's treatment of its Uighur minority population a genocide.

The motion - which passed 266 to 0 - was supported by all opposition parties and a handful of lawmakers from the governing Liberal Party.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and most members of his cabinet abstained.

The motion makes Canada just the second country after the United States to recognise China's actions as genocide.

[Cono Este]

Man, this is the kinda shit tearing the world apart. India put a lander on the moon last month and it’s another country the US sends billions too. We cannot buy everyone forever.

It wasn’t until a few yrs ago that fully realized the hate and resentment alot of Indians have for the west because of the Brit Empire. I got into a discussion with a guy on Churchill birthday and he compared him to Hitler! Probably good for me to realize, but still bullshit considering the Japanese would have taken India if not for Churchill, Never-mind the rest of the world.

Safe to say they fucking hate Canada for the same reasons. Plus harboring all these separatists.

We need to wise up.

[riser4]

If "credible evidence" where the basis of expelling any diplomat then why hasn't he done that with Chinese diplomats when there is actual evidence of election interference and influencing?
JT is picking a fight India to make up for his lack of courage when it come to standing up to China. He didn't vote for a declaration condemning the treatment of the Uighur.

Jagmeet Singh for Prime Minister! It's about freaking time.

[grinch]

^^this

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[XXX-er]

JT needed to look good/ strong when pierre polievere acuses him of ... everything

I don't think everyone is ready for Jagmeet to run Canada

[BCMtnHound]

If "credible evidence" where the basis of expelling any diplomat then why hasn't he done that with Chinese diplomats when there is actual evidence of election interference and influencing?
JT is picking a fight India to make up for his lack of courage when it come to standing up to China. He didn't vote for a declaration condemning the treatment of the Uighur.

Agreed. But in fairness, China has yet to kill one of our nationals, they just held a couple guys hostage for a period of time, and threatened a couple politicians and their families that remain in China. Killing a citizen on home turf is a whole other level of fuck you foreign diplomacy.

[ex-powderbroker]

I was doing some reading on Kalistan last night and the history of terrorism with the Sikhs and it's pretty extensive with both parties being complete and utter assholes to each other, but Canada has already suffered enough collateral damage from that Air Canada flight being brought down in 1985. It looks like the govt spooks had also already sided with India and concluded that the separatist movement is not in line with Canadian interests as well and simply benefits a small group of people and Pakistan. But, citizens here are still allowed to live their lives within the frameworks of the laws and India was obligated to make a case that this guy was a threat, and not just wack him. They fucked up the equation pretty good, maybe for a long time. Modhi is not a good guy and it also sucks that everyone needs to appeal to him to keep him off the Russian gas, etc, and he is taking advantage.

[Dr. Crank]

If "credible evidence" where the basis of expelling any diplomat then why hasn't he done that with Chinese diplomats when there is actual evidence of election interference and influencing?
JT is picking a fight India to make up for his lack of courage when it come to standing up to China. He didn't vote for a declaration condemning the treatment of the Uighur.

The government did eventually expel a Chinese diplomat earlier this year for targeting an MP’s family. But yeah, that was really just scratching the surface

[BCMtnHound]

I was doing some reading on Kalistan last night and the history of terrorism with the Sikhs and it's pretty extensive with both parties being complete and utter assholes to each other, but Canada has already suffered enough collateral damage from that Air India flight 182 being brought down in 1985. It looks like the govt spooks had also already sided with India and concluded that the separatist movement is not in line with Canadian interests as well and simply benefits a small group of people and Pakistan. But, citizens here are still allowed to live their lives within the frameworks of the laws and India was obligated to make a case that this guy was a threat, and not just wack him. They fucked up the equation pretty good, maybe for a long time. Modhi is not a good guy and it also sucks that everyone needs to appeal to him to keep him off the Russian gas, etc, and he is taking advantage.

Just an edit to the plane descriptor, but otherwise spot on. I grew up in big ag down in the lower mainland with all the labour being provided by either Sikh or Hindu immigrants, also worked several contracts in the bush with both ethnics as well. Great respect for the individuals I’ve known and worked with, but they go together like oil and water. The divisions run deep, and Canada has for a long time been caught in the middle.

[Kenny Satch]

I just hope this isn't the start of something where innocent people get caught in the middle of.

[ex-powderbroker]

Just an edit to the plane descriptor, but otherwise spot on. I grew up in big ag down in the lower mainland with all the labour being provided by either Sikh or Hindu immigrants, also worked several contracts in the bush with both ethnics as well. Great respect for the individuals I’ve known and worked with, but they go together like oil and water. The divisions run deep, and Canada has for a long time been caught in the middle.

probably isn’t fair to describe them as collateral damage anyway. 200+ canadian citizens murdered because of their descent. fucked up.

[LHutz Esq]

JT has a credibility problem.

He is getting his lunch handed to him and needs a distraction.

Sikh leader gets offed, RCMP say no international connection.

Then there is some nebulous "involvement" from the Indian Gov't. according to some random intelligence folks?

We have our own, home-grown, right here in Canada, folks that are pissed at people like Nijjar.

Could some of them have "connections" to the Indian government? Absolutely! just so happens that lots of the people that would want Nijjar gone probably have such connections. They are kinda on the same side of these things.

JT is not above fucking over the country for his own political benefit.

[XXX-er]

JT has a credibility problem.

He is getting his lunch handed to him and needs a distraction..

Yup, ol PP breath has been taking up all the air in the room by accusing JT of everything from killing kittens to the price of RE and it shows in the polls but he has to stay silent on this file

I wonder if JT's numbers improve with this ?

[bennymac]

It can be both - the India government could have murdered this guy and simultaneously Trudeau could be releasing this info now to distract from the rise of Polievre as a viable rival based off current polling

[paulster2626]

Yup, ol PP breath has been taking up all the air in the room by accusing JT of everything from killing kittens to the price of RE and it shows in the polls but he has to stay silent on this file

I wonder if JT's numbers improve with this ?

Probably will, since PP head accidentally subbed-out the JJ for GG when he offered condolances to the Nijjar family.

I get it was a slip-up and instantly corrected, but c'mon man, that word doesn't easily escape the mouths of those who respect and never use it.

[ex-powderbroker]

I know that nobody wants to give a pass on a gaffe by an opponent but I am sure he was terrified of messing up the name and then walked into it. He's still a dolt and a poser but if all our lives were taped 24 hours a day I am sure we would give up plenty of ammo to the opposition. This goes for PP, JT, Drumpf, Biden, anyone. The bigger issue is people seeing a conspiracy or reason for cynicism under every stone, like Lionel Hutz above who swears that Justin is doing this for his poll numbers. If, as stated, the Canadian govt as an institution already sees the separatists as a proxy for Pakistan and not aligned with Canadian interests it is a very bold claim that JT would go on a limb for this for personal gain so in effect it says more about how some people see Justin than anything about the murder of a Canadian on their own soil.

[grinch]

For the last year every yt vid i watch is preceded by a PP attack ad. I guess i get that ad regardless of my algorythyms. Seems like Justin has his hands tied behind his back until an election is called and PP attacks play and play. The cons have some $ to spend

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[Kenny Satch]

I think this kid explains some things I didn't know and expresses the frustration with Trudeau's ineptness with China vs his jumping the gun (no pun intended) with India.

https://twitter.com/Ranting4Canada/s...57790887973053

[LHutz Esq]

I know that nobody wants to give a pass on a gaffe by an opponent but I am sure he was terrified of messing up the name and then walked into it. He's still a dolt and a poser but if all our lives were taped 24 hours a day I am sure we would give up plenty of ammo to the opposition. This goes for PP, JT, Drumpf, Biden, anyone. The bigger issue is people seeing a conspiracy or reason for cynicism under every stone, like Lionel Hutz above who swears that Justin is doing this for his poll numbers. If, as stated, the Canadian govt as an institution already sees the separatists as a proxy for Pakistan and not aligned with Canadian interests it is a very bold claim that JT would go on a limb for this for personal gain so in effect it says more about how some people see Justin than anything about the murder of a Canadian on their own soil.

Ya everyone has a gaff now and then. Bringing a convicted Kallistani terrorist, (convicted in our courts mind you) to a reception in India - that was a gaff (blamed on an MP).

Deciding to get in a diplomatic war with one of the most important geopolitical power brokers with no reportable evidence is more concerning

Sure there is reason for cynicism and one doesn't need to look under any stones to find it. Actual, reportable evidence exists about Chinese plots, but it would not be politically expedient to investigate so JT has to be forced to do the minimum.

However, right now he needs Jagmeet. Jagmeet who is ok hanging out with Sikh's calling for violence in India.

https://nationalpost.com/news/politi...ikh-separatist

The percentage of folks that live and Canada and are calling for violence for the Khalistan homeland has to be an very small number of a very small minority - but they seem to have found a very powerful voice in our politics to the disadvantage of what I assume is a large majority of Canadians who see India for what it is, but realize we have almost no influence there, so picking fights is not in our interest.

Hey ya, maybe India was involved - but we have no usable evidence to go on here, and when the person saying it is as compromised as JT Canada comes off worse and there is absolutely no benefit.

[BCMtnHound]

The main credibility I give JT’s statements come from the communications provider to the UK and US govt before his statement in the house. I can’t find a formal response from the UK govt in the press, but the White House said it was "deeply concerned" about Mr Trudeau's allegations.
"We remain in regular contact with our Canadian partners. It is critical that Canada's investigation proceed and the perpetrators be brought to justice," White House National Security Council spokesperson Adrienne Watson said.

I would hope that such comms would not be based on reasons solely associated with internal political maneuvering, and formal statements by the US would be based on some sort of credible evidence we have yet to be privy to. But I have been wrong before.

[grinch]

JT has never stfuck me as being that risky. He is on the back foot , 15pts down atm, but it seems way to risky to be mixing it up with India to score domestic pts

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