PSA: Mount your own fucking skis.

[waveshello]

Try dropping the screws in the adjustment plates and measuring the protrusion, no less than 7.5mm is what you want, probably no more than 9mm depending on the ski.

[bfree]

Are the countersinks deeper on the plates? Measure screw protrusion rather than plate thickness for a fairer comparison. Should be 7-9mm.

[Shred Baron]

Are the countersinks deeper on the plates? Measure screw protrusion rather than plate thickness for a fairer comparison. Should be 7-9mm.

Totally missed that the countersink starts about 3mm deep so the screw head doesn’t sit flush. I guess I should just follow the directions. Thanks all.


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[AZskibum]

Send it or helicoil it then send it? Back is clean. Ski is a thick Kartel 108 I used GFLEX epoxy and plastic plugs for the holes. These are my rock skis, so not worried about mounting another time.

[kid-kapow]

Send it or helicoil it then send it? .

I would send it all the way, but then again I am a smaller dude with wimpy legs.

ON3Ps binding area has a ton of retention though, so I would not worry.

[ASmileyFace]

That's too close to plastic, epoxied in or not, for my personal tastes. I'd pull those plugs, use bamboo/dowel/whatever wood fill w/epoxy then send it. It's Juiy so I'm guessing you've got time to spare to do it right.

[kid-kapow]

That's too close to plastic, epoxied in or not, for my personal tastes. I'd pull those plugs, use bamboo/dowel/whatever wood fill w/epoxy then send it. It's Juiy so I'm guessing you've got time to spare to do it right.

eh, I wrote out something similar in that I would've used bamboo plugs too, but deleted it before posting. My bad.

While the current solution is probably good enough, using wood+epoxy is better.

[AZskibum]

I don't think those plugs are coming out pre-mount with the amount of GFLEX holding them in. I'd have to drill the whole plug out I think?

Was going to take them to mammoth this weekend, but can use others if needed.

EDIT: Ordered skewers just in case. Will being buzzed help soften injuries in the even of a pull out?

[1000-oaks]

Top holes are fine, but I'd drill out the bottom plugs (small drill bit in center of plug, than EZ-Out to twist out plug) re-tap the holes, epoxy in #12AB aluminum screws, then cut off protruding screws with hacksaw and grind flat. (Don't let screws get hot when grinding.)

Then bomber.

[EWG]

Will being buzzed help soften injuries in the even of a pull out?

Yer gonna wanna be full drunk for that.

I like the screw method just mentioned btw.

[AZskibum]

Thanks for that tip, I was able to get the whole plug out. There was a lot less epoxy in there than I though, the nylon inserts are soft AF.

Think I'm going to go with a happy middle ground and use an epoxied skewer. Don't have the gear to grind off the screw unfortunately.

[kid-kapow]

I am sorry if this is overly obvious, but the easy way to pull plastic plugs out is to just screw a woodscrew or something similar thread wise into the plug part of the way and then use a hammer to lever it out. There is no need to drill it out. If you pull out the screw, just go slightly deeper and try again.

The plastic plug is not very secured in there - the epoxy/glue/whatever does not seem to penetrate the plastic to any meaningful degree. Wood plugs on the other hand absorbes more of the binding agent and thus hardens while also seeming to bond better with the ski. Their retention values is still nothing like the ski's, but way better than plastic plugs (which is nil).

[AZskibum]

I am sorry if this is overly obvious, but the easy way to pull plastic plugs out is to just screw a woodscrew or something similar thread wise into the plug part of the way and then use a hammer to lever it out. There is no need to drill it out. If you pull out the screw, just go slightly deeper and try again.

The plastic plug is not very secured in there - the epoxy/glue/whatever does not seem to penetrate the plastic to any meaningful degree. Wood plugs on the other hand absorbes more of the binding agent and thus hardens while also seeming to bond better with the ski. Their retention values is still nothing like the ski's, but way better than plastic plugs (which is nil).

That's great info, thank you.

[XXX-er]

I usually like to move ever thing to get some fresh ski to drill but if you got yer heart set on that same spot i like that aluminium screw idea altho i have never tried it

[AZskibum]

I decided to send it after getting the dowels in and letting the epoxy cure. Screws had a lot of bite, no spinning. The other ski has more overlap, so I'm going to put helicoils in that. I don't think the aluminum screws would work since the threads would cross over into each other.

[skinipenem]

I decided to send it after getting the dowels in and letting the epoxy cure. Screws had a lot of bite, no spinning. The other ski has more overlap, so I'm going to put helicoils in that. I don't think the aluminum screws would work since the threads would cross over into each other.

Epoxy dowels will likely work fine. I have a Bonafide with two screws overlapped dowel mount that has held up for years.

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[gregL]

Epoxy dowels will likely work fine. I have a Bonafide with two screws overlapped dowel mount that has held up for years.

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Bonafide has a sheet of Titanal right under the topsheet . . . Kartel 108 not so much.

[skinipenem]

Bonafide has a sheet of Titanal right under the topsheet . . . Kartel 108 not so much.

That seems like a very important detail to know detail that I did not know. Thank you

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[waveshello]

I decided to send it after getting the dowels in and letting the epoxy cure. Screws had a lot of bite, no spinning. The other ski has more overlap, so I'm going to put helicoils in that. I don't think the aluminum screws would work since the threads would cross over into each other.

I'm not sold on the aluminum screw method, but that is the point, you drill and then tap the hole including the portion of the aluminum screw that is now part of the hole circumference.

[AZskibum]

I'm not sold on the aluminum screw method, but that is the point, you drill and then tap the hole including the portion of the aluminum screw that is now part of the hole circumference.

Ah. got you. That makes sense. Wondering if I need to pull these and start over or what. Everything seems "secure". I'm not a super heavy guy, and I don't huck big stuff, or medium stuff. Wondering if I pull and Heli coil all holes? I have a pair of wildcats that are practically brand new that are going to run into the same issue.

[Shred Baron]

I’m looking to re mount a pair of skis, and have hit a bit of a snag. The plastic plugs I ordered were too big to fit, so I went down and bought some bamboo skewers since that seems to be recommended around here. Problem is the skewers seem a little small to me. About 1mm of slop, the store had bigger ones, but they looked too big. I’m guessing the epoxy filling the gap of about .5mm the whole way round should be fine. Either that or go get the bigger ones. Put them in a drill and sand them ghetto lathe style to fit. What would the mags do?


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[Meadow Skipper]

I’m looking to re mount a pair of skis, and have hit a bit of a snag. The plastic plugs I ordered were too big to fit, so I went down and bought some bamboo skewers since that seems to be recommended around here. Problem is the skewers seem a little small to me. About 1mm of slop, the store had bigger ones, but they looked too big. I’m guessing the epoxy filling the gap of about .5mm the whole way round should be fine. Either that or go get the bigger ones. Put them in a drill and sand them ghetto lathe style to fit. What would the mags do?

Is there overlap with the new holes? If there is, I’d go for a tight fit with the plugs or bigger skewers, make ‘em fit however you can (get a bigger hammer)…or find something with a tight fit (golf tees?). If there’s no overlap and the new ones are about a cm or more away I’d go with the small skewers and epoxy.

[Shred Baron]

Thanks for the info. No overlap thankfully. I would feel really strange using a hammer bigger than my 2lb dead low on a 1000 gram ski.


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[waxloaf]

On the bamboo skewer point - the manufacturing tolerances on those aren’t terribly tight, so if you try a few different ones usually you’ll get one that fits perfectly for the holes you need to fill. If you can’t, I have never had an issue using one that’s a little small; as you say, the epoxy fills the void just fine.


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[tuco]

I’m looking to re mount a pair of skis, and have hit a bit of a snag. The plastic plugs I ordered were too big to fit, so I went down and bought some bamboo skewers since that seems to be recommended around here. Problem is the skewers seem a little small to me. About 1mm of slop, the store had bigger ones, but they looked too big. I’m guessing the epoxy filling the gap of about .5mm the whole way round should be fine. Either that or go get the bigger ones. Put them in a drill and sand them ghetto lathe style to fit. What would the mags do?


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Epoxy putty is your friend for filling holes