Electric Bike Thread

[Eluder]

Hi, my name is Bill, I live in my own private world that is black and white.

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You forgot to mention you ride your bike hundreds of miles a year!

[Andeh]

You forgot to mention you ride your bike hundreds of miles a year!

HUNDREDS!

[rideit]

Just converted my Rocky to Mullet, and ordered a speed de-restrictor. But before anyone’s panties get bunched, we have many hundreds of moto-legal trails here that SUCK on a normal bike. So there is no speed limit in actuality.
I have another wheel without the device for places that will require compliance, or if I want to sip off of the battery for really long rides.
I did a moto trail yesterday that I have only ridden twice in 26 years because it is such a slog. But it was SO fun on the ebike, it will now be in the every month rotation. Insane 3k downhill.
SOOO GOOOD.
The ebike seriously tripled the great ride options in the area.

[rudy]

What's the consensus on towing another rider (my wife) on an ebike? Purchased a used 2 year old SC Heckler w a 504 Wh battery and Shimano motor and wondering if towing my wife up dirt roads/mellow trails is a good or horrible idea. Just concerned about overworking the motor and creating problems. Thoughts?

[summit]

It's gonna crush your range... dunno about the wear/tear

[XXX-er]

504 is not that big 2 years ago SC was starting to put 630W in their bikes, towing is really going to eat up battery,

running at high speed also burns thru the battery capacity, so i wonder how a speed de-limiter will affect battery life for rideit

[Andeh]

What's the consensus on towing another rider (my wife) on an ebike? Purchased a used 2 year old SC Heckler w a 504 Wh battery and Shimano motor and wondering if towing my wife up dirt roads/mellow trails is a good or horrible idea. Just concerned about overworking the motor and creating problems. Thoughts?

I've done it a bit. You want to get a tow strap with some give to it (like a Towhee), otherwise differences in speeds cause jerks. The person in the back will still get a huge cardio workout. It takes a bit of the grunt off for them but they're doing a ton of pedaling. Towing through any sort of switchbacks is a PITA. You will get massively lower range. Put it this way - even if the rider in the back is doing 50% of the work, you're effectively increasing the load on the motor. My buddy riding the same ebike as me who weighs 20% more gets 20% less battery life. So my WAG is I'd expect you'll get 50% less range. I'd guess in terms of wear & tear, the answer is about the same... if you weigh 160 lbs, then it will put a similar level of wear on your motor to a 240 lb rider.

[singlesline]

Hi, my name is Bill, I live in my own private world that is black and white.

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Seems odd to call out the Going to the Sun Road specifically.

I'm kinda struggling to pick out a better use case for e-bikes. During bikes-only season, it is a full-width road that is completely closed to cars. It is open to bikes because it is not ready for car traffic yet and there's no other way to access those parts of the park.

It isn't some narrow dedicated bike path or fragile trail. The ebikes aren't really causing user conflicts as there is plenty of space--the crowding is more limited by car parking at the start than by road capacity. The only conflicts I have had on the trail are like...tourist families leaving their bikes on kickstands across the road while they take photos (especially in the downhill lane...) which they do regardless of whether their bikes have motors.

It is a long climb, but I can't think of a great reason to gatekeep it to only the people capable of riding it on a normal bike. You could make some argument that many of these people *could* climb it if they really wanted to--they might not match Levi Leipheimer's crazy strava KOM, but they could get to the top (or wherever the road closure is). But most people don't ride this road for the challenge of the climb, they ride it for a unique way to experience the park.

Most of the ebikers aren't even going that fast. The rental places all tell them to keep it in fairly low power mode on the uphill so they don't run out of battery for the flat section on the return....and on the descent, you can coast faster than an ebike can pedal-assist.

[climberevan]

Shit, even I think mopeds are totally fine and even laudable on closed paved roads. They are also perfectly fine on motorized trails. It's the poaching I have a problem with.

[Eluder]

I'm just not using mine, anybody interested in a basically new Levo?
https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/3693799/

[jm2e]

I'm just not using mine, anybody interested in a basically new Levo?
https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/3693799/

That’s a sweet deal.


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[SchralphMacchio]

I don’t hang out in this thread very much, so no idea if this has come up before. But a local county just restricted eBikes in their county forest trails because they went to IFPL2!

I could see this at IFPL3 or obviously at 4, but 2?

I’m not up to speed on UL standards for e-bikes and charging systems, nor what the latest is on whether Alibaba and Walmart e-bikes still undergo rapid unplanned spontaneous disassembly, but certainly Lithium battery fires are no joke!

Anyone else see this before?

Please continue outrage and pedantic positions for the sake of my entertainment, thank you!

[The SnowShow]

Has anyone else done an e-MTB conversion, taking an old 26 bike and installing a mid drive motor (Bafang BBS02 or Tongshen TSDZ2)? Was it a simple build? Any advice or tips? Will I wear the components out quickly doing this and would it just make more sense to buy an ebike instead of a conversion.
I’d like to use it for some bike path use, gravel roads, and fire roads to access singletrack for the down. Thanks!

[Spats]

Has anyone else done an e-MTB conversion, taking an old 26 bike and installing a mid drive motor (Bafang BBS02 or Tongshen TSDZ2)? Was it a simple build? Any advice or tips? Will I wear the components out quickly doing this and would it just make more sense to buy an ebike instead of a conversion.
I’d like to use it for some bike path use, gravel roads, and fire roads to access singletrack for the down. Thanks!

Ebike components aren't any different. You do tend to wear chains and cassettes out faster, but that's mostly because you're riding more and longer. I still get nearly 1000 miles out of an ebike chain, which isn't far off what I get out of regular MTB chains. And 4-piston brakes are a good idea due to the extra weight...you'll be doing a lot more downhill, since riding up is so much easier!

Conversion kits...do you really want to be riding singletrack on an old 26er with a battery hose-clamped to the downtube and cables ziptied everywhere? Do you really want to be riding that bike at all? Mid-drive conversion kits cost $600-700 (try greenbikekit.com). Resale on any conversion is basically zero. Ebike prices are plummeting. Do the math relative to something from bikesdirect...you can get dual-suspension ebikes there for the low $2000s right now. They're not great, but they're better than whatever your old 26er is.

[XXX-er]

pretty much this ^^ an old 26 is just old so do you really want to be riding some clapped out 26er with old geometry and a cobbled together motor ?

[The SnowShow]

^^ all good points and exactly why I posted my question. Thank you.

[TAHOEDOWN]

I'm just not using mine, anybody interested in a basically new Levo?
https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/3693799/

PM sent

[riff]

Anyone have recommendations for mid-drive kits? Luna used to be great, now it’s all out of stock…..


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[Name Redacted]

Anyone have recommendations for mid-drive kits? Luna used to be great, now it’s all out of stock…..


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I happen to be selling a Salsa Mukluk (L) w/ a BBSHD and large Luna Battery (forget which one but I can look it up). Asking $2.5K if you are anywhere in/near CO. Might be able to part with just the Ebike parts and switch it back to a fat bike.

[nickwm21]

New curly-bar for ebike from SC…

https://www.santacruzbicycles.com/en...0Green&media=0

These drop bar ebikes sound like they’d be crazy fun commuters... But I feel like the market is sooo small for a $6k carbon commuter…


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[Dantheman]

New curly-bar for ebike from SC…

https://www.santacruzbicycles.com/en...0Green&media=0

These drop bar ebikes sound like they’d be crazy fun commuters... But I feel like the market is sooo small for a $6k carbon commuter…

Appears to lack rack and fender mounts. Instafail.

[XXX-er]

I wasn't having a problem but somebody asked a question on an FB user group about a Shimano battery not latching on a brand new SC so i took a look at how it works cuz this lot were such a bunch of useless wankers. You gotta drop the battery when the bike is upright or it won't drop and turn the bike over for a look-see, the plastic latch assembly uses a mortise and tenon like latch ( like a door latch ) with 6 screws holding it in. All 6 screws were very loose I can only figure 8 lbs of battery bouncing around for 2 yrs had loosened the screws so maybe you wana check yours ??

[Iowagriz]

Any input on this bike for my wife? Very light trail riding, more likely on bike paths and logging roads. We rode it and a Specialized Tero 3.0. Both felt similar. The Scott appears to have a slightly better fork due to lockout. Brakes are the same. Shifting is similar enough.

Specialized will be near $2800
Scott is $2325

Seems like the Scott wins to me.

https://www.scott-sports.com/us/en/p...eride-940-bike

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/tu...=349361-216846


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[jackstraw]

Appears to lack rack and fender mounts. Instafail.

DT370 hub. Epic fail.

[grinch]

Dt 370 must be hit and miss. Ive heard of issues but my h1900's i think have dt370's w steel freehub body and 12k km without issue/knock on wood

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