Buying a car

**BmillsSkier** · 08-17-2023, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by mcphee

Anecdotal data superiority is TRGs lifeblood

Second to geographic hubris.

**MontuckyFried** · 08-17-2023, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by BmillsSkier

Costco, dealer specials and cross-shopping nationally seem to be the best routes to the lowest price.

Bingo. If sticking to your local market, best of luck to you. I'm shopping for something totally different (and ended up going private party), BUT it's taking me being willing to fly across the dang country and drive it home to get something anywhere close to where I wanted to be on price. Still not a "deal" per se, but much better than anything else I've seen. A full 10K less than anything comparable I've seen around here. Worth sacrificing some airline points and a day off work to save that much IMO.

**MontuckyFried** · 08-17-2023, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by Touring_Sedan

First off it's a Kia. Second easily one of the most in demand SUV's on the market..... and they're still negotiating on the price.

Yeah, and there are a bazillion of them on the lots here. Thus, the "deals." VW and Kia's cranking those babies out like crazy.

Originally Posted by Touring_Sedan

But if it makes you feel better, keep telling yourself it's a shit market so you can keep searching for those rare wagons.

And if it makes you feel better, keep on buying those uber-common blobmobiles so you can tell yourself its NOT a shit market. As for me, I'll stick with my Euro wagons. Even if it does take more effort to seek out. You do you, though. Not judging.

**Touring_Sedan** · 08-17-2023, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by MontuckyFried

Yeah, and there are a bazillion of them on the lots here. Thus, the "deals." VW and Kia's cranking those babies out like crazy.

And if it makes you feel better, keep on buying those uber-common blobmobiles so you can tell yourself its NOT a shit market. As for me, I'll stick with my Euro wagons. Even if it does take more effort to seek out. You do you, though. Not judging.

You're right. The RAV-4 and CR-V definately fall into the category of Euro wagons and not blobmobiles. I think what it comes down to is that you're saying it's hard to find a reasonably priced Euro wagon. I'm saying it's not hard to find nor negotiate on a blobmobile. OP's looking for a blobmobile, not a Euro wagon.

**MontuckyFried** · 08-17-2023, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by Touring_Sedan

You're right. The RAV-4 and CR-V definately fall into the category of Euro wagons and not blobmobiles. I think what it comes down to is that you're saying it's hard to find a reasonably priced Euro wagon. I'm saying it's not hard to find nor negotiate on a blobmobile. OP's looking for a blobmobile, not a Euro wagon.

While you're correct he's looking for a common blobmobile and not a Euro wagon, go visit your local Toyota/Honda dealerships and report back about inventory and all the great deals you're finding out there!
When it comes to the car market, RAV4 =/= Atlas

**gravitylover** · 08-17-2023, 09:09 AM

Sure, you can negotiate the price on a blob IF you take the loan from the dealer. If you have an outside source or will be paying cash the price will be (at least) $1500 above the advertised price and you probably won't get that first oil change for free either.

**riser4** · 08-17-2023, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by Touring_Sedan

I don't listen to car advise from people who drive a CVT.

You drive a VW outside the first 30K miles, so it's a wash. You were however smart enough to get an extended warranty. Never drive a VW off warranty.

**Touring_Sedan** · 08-17-2023, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by gravitylover

Sure, you can negotiate the price on a blob IF you take the loan from the dealer. If you have an outside source or will be paying cash the price will be (at least) $1500 above the advertised price and you probably won't get that first oil change for free either.

And I'm definitely not taking any car advice from you.

**gravitylover** · 08-17-2023, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by Touring_Sedan

And I'm definitely not taking any car advice from you.

**Touring_Sedan** · 08-17-2023, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by MontuckyFried

While you're correct he's looking for a common blobmobile and not a Euro wagon, go visit your local Toyota/Honda dealerships and report back about inventory and all the great deals you're finding out there!
When it comes to the car market, RAV4 =/= Atlas

Quick search. One dealership.

**present tense** · 08-17-2023, 09:30 AM

Pics of GF?

I don’t know what VWs deal is but friends of ours had a nearly new atlas partially wrecked (all side body damage) and it took 5 months to get parts and finish a repair. Thankfully the other drivers insurance picked up the bill on a 5 month long rental.

**mcphee** · 08-17-2023, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by BmillsSkier

Second to geographic hubris.

Indubitably

**fatnslow** · 08-17-2023, 09:51 AM

hey Touring , what did you pay for the Atlas with extended warranty ?

**Touring_Sedan** · 08-17-2023, 09:53 AM

I think it was a hair over $32K. 2019 SEL-P 33K miles.

**simple** · 08-17-2023, 09:55 AM

That's a used car. WTF

**fatnslow** · 08-17-2023, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by simple

That's a used car. WTF

Market price paid with a reskinned third party warranty..... EVERY Kia Telluride listed at a local dealership has $2500-6000 discount listed.

**Touring_Sedan** · 08-17-2023, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by simple

That's a used car. WTF

What kind of garbage are you guys driving?

**Touring_Sedan** · 08-17-2023, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by fatnslow

Market price paid with a reskinned third party warranty.....

VW warranty, but whatever.

**Touring_Sedan** · 08-17-2023, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by fatnslow

EVERY Kia Telluride listed at a local dealership has $2500-6000 discount listed.

SO WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU GUYS BITCHING ABOUT THERE BEING NO DEALS?!!!

FFS, the days of $2K Corrolas are over. Maybe it's time to grow up a little.

**simple** · 08-17-2023, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by Touring_Sedan

What kind of garbage are you guys driving?

The point is the poster is looking for a NEW car. Just because you bought your USED car at a dealer doesn't make it a comp. Keep telling yourself it does but you are wrong.

**mcphee** · 08-17-2023, 10:17 AM

Lol. Lmao, even.

**Touring_Sedan** · 08-17-2023, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by simple

The point is the poster is looking for a NEW car. Just because you bought your USED car at a dealer doesn't make it a comp. Keep telling yourself it does but you are wrong.

Jesus. The Telluride was new, but you keep spinning my that tale that the new car market is fucked and the used car market is fucked and everything is fucked. It just isn't the case, but I'm sure it makes you feel better.

**simple** · 08-17-2023, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by mcphee

Lol. Lmao, even.

I know. At this point in the real world I would have made this dude grab us another beer. Wouldn't even trust him to put a log on the fire.

**simple** · 08-17-2023, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by Touring_Sedan

Jesus. The Telluride was new, but you keep spinning my that tale that the new car market is fucked and the used car market is fucked and everything is fucked. It just isn't the case, but I'm sure it makes you feel better.

Your mommie and daddie bought that. I'm not disputing that data point. Again you bring up used cars. Take a lap