Wildfire 2023

[Danno]

I have no idea what you are talking about, maybe I should have ignored this thread today.

CE posts repeatedly in poliass that we're all traitors and criminals because foxnews tells him so (he denies watching foxnews but gets his "news" somewhere similar).

[skaredshtles]

CE posts repeatedly in poliass that we're all traitors and criminals because foxnews tells him so (he denies watching foxnews but gets his "news" somewhere similar).

Newsmax FTW!!

[bennymac]

Cono actually believes that most mags that post in poliass are going to be found guilty of treason and go to jail (literally)

I’m not making this up. Hence his comment on here about all the “criminals”.

Best to treat him like the lunatic shouting on the subway - no eye contact, no sudden moves, stay out of his reach.

[skaredshtles]

Cono actually believes that most mags that post in poliass are going to be found guilty of treason and go to jail (literally)

I’m not making this up. Hence his comment on here about all the “criminals”.

Best to treat him like the lunatic shouting on the subway - no eye contact, no sudden moves, stay out of his reach.

That's not really fair to subway lunatics.

[I Skied Bandini Mountain]

I was doing structural protection a couple years ago when I met my first "conductive energy weapon" proponent.

He said it was a plan to de-populate rural areas as rural folks were a threat to government/corporate control of global food supply.

I was on duty, but really wanted to ask, if that were true - why did forest fires take out suburbs, cities (within a few years of Ft Mac.), and towns. Not a lot of Ag going on in Ft. Mac.

He believed that he had seen the lightning strike - and the colour was green when "real lightning" is blue.

He also didn't seem to notice that we were trying to protect his and his neighbour's houses and were being paid by the government that apparently wanted to burn him out.

It is a weird diplomacy that has to go on out there.

I have more respect, I think, for the people that say get lost we will take care of ourselves than these folks that say the government is out to get us, while begging for (or even just accepting) our help.

Sounds like a call out to Last Chance in the Santa Cruz mountains. People live up there because they need to live up there.

[muted reborn]

Cono actually believes that most mags that post in poliass are going to be found guilty of treason and go to jail (literally)

I’m not making this up. Hence his comment on here about all the “criminals”.

Best to treat him like the lunatic shouting on the subway - no eye contact, no sudden moves, stay out of his reach.

Cono, is this true? Have you become bat-shit crazy?

[Bunion 2020]

He turned me into a Newt.

[Danno]

He's a witch.

[Yonder_River]

Yeah it’s heartbreaking.

A friend over there involved in the volunteer world recommended this for donations: https://www.hawaiicommunityfoundation.org/maui-strong

Thanks for posting this, bumping this link again.

[LongShortLong]

Last I checked, all of us here know this too. We can debate semantics or talk about locals being pushed out due to old houses becoming reborn as new expensive rentals, or just being replaced by something more profitable for the owners/developers - if zoning allows them. I think locals who own houses may just sell the property and never rebuild, and I doubt the new owners will put up shacks for locals to live in. Anyways, I can't imagine losing everything you own as a renter/owner and not being able to afford to move back or rebuild, whatever the case may be. Politicians will be blamed for not controlling capitalism, damned no matter what they do as you said.

Maybe the Hawaiians will come up with something. The governor and other politicians at the news conferences seem to be aware of how people live there and what the needs may be. There's hope they can find a good solution. The media vultures of course showed no interest in exploring the problems or helping to find solutions. Too busy exploiting the tragedy for clicks and outrage. Hopefully the locals can see past the outrage for long enough to come together, learn the issues, and influence the solutions.

[MTT]

Vibes to the people of Lahaina - Vibes doesn't really cut it for this.
The TV is now saying there will be Hundreds dead? Hundreds of people who burned to death. You would think this can't happen in any American town. With an ocean a short distance from everyone.,

God bless.

[muted reborn]

Maybe the Hawaiians will come up with something. The governor and other politicians at the news conferences seem to be aware of how people live there and what the needs may be. There's hope they can find a good solution. The media vultures of course showed no interest in exploring the problems or helping to find solutions. Too busy exploiting the tragedy for clicks and outrage. Hopefully the locals can see past the outrage for long enough to come together, learn the issues, and influence the solutions.

Well put.

[The Suit]

I’m in Maui right now. My wife & I are noobs — we’ve owned a home here for two years but only lived here full time since March — but here’s my viewpoint on what it’s like here.

There is a lot of grief. Many people have directly experienced huge loss, and almost everyone at least feels it second hand.

There is fear. Everyone expects more awful news to come.

The grass roots are getting stuff done. It’s really amazing. It’s mostly self-organized, and it’s not efficient, but it’s effective. Hundreds of people (not just Oprah!) just show up at the shelter and start helping. An ad-hoc boat convoy from Maalea to the Kahana boat ramp was the primary conduit for critically needed goods while the roads into West Maui were still closed.

There’s anger, and it’s probably going to grow, but right now I don’t think anger is even close to taking over. People are too busy getting shit done.

If you want to give, this google sheet is a good place to start.

[bennymac]

^thanks for posting that

[Norseman]

PNW looking smoky this morning. Been hot and dry.

[TBS]

^^^Yup AQI in my hood is down to ~375 right now, from 500 yesterday.
Bedrock and Lookout fires going strong - 30k acres burned. Sinus infections becoming an ongoing Summer thing.

[Meadow Skipper]

22 new fires on the Klamath NF yesterday. And the Head fire there is taking off in super-rugged country.

[bodywhomper]

Hoping the continual lightning forecast for CA do not cause larger starts. This is the anniversary of the 3rd anniversary of the devastating fires that rocked a lot of coastal NorCal.

Re: Lahaina: https://www.constructiondive.com/new...ruction%20Dive

[BCMtnHound]

Yellowknife NWT is now being evacuated.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north...t-16-1.6938756

[BCMtnHound]

Double Post.

[XXX-er]

Smart move, I didn't realize there were 22000 people in Yellow knife

[weibo]

I think there is almost 75% of NWT residents on evac orders and something over 200 forest up there. It is a crazy,y fire year up there. Not nearly as talked about as Hawaii but just as disructive to a similar mostly indigenous population.

[weibo]

Just to clarify, not the level of death in NWT but significant loss of homes and entire towns.

[bennymac]

And only one real highway outta Yellowknife - and it passes through communities that have already been evacuated south - what a clusterfuck for that whole Territory

[bodywhomper]

I’m thinking that the debris removal and rebuilding, especially the re-establishment of underground infrastructure, in Lahaina could essentially become one large archaeological dig, which can take awhile. Is it going to be similar with those communities that will need to rebuild in NWT? I know regulations are different.