Wildfire 2023

[PB]

Hard to prepare for something you've never thought about, let alone experienced, before.

I'd heard that fires were triggered in the town itself by downed lines. Sounds like the fire's propagation speed was super fast - hard to react quickly to such rapid onset. Add the confusion and mayhem created by just the 85 mph winds, no way you could have organized any serious evacuation.

[AK47bp]

High res satellite image.

Can almost pinpoint a couple areas it may have started.

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/instant/...de4433c967c4b9

[LongShortLong]

Banyan getting watered. Some think it'll make it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wVc...iveStormsMedia

[Danno]

Jesus, death toll is up to 89.

[frorider]

Jesus, death toll is up to 89.

Yeah it’s heartbreaking.

A friend over there involved in the volunteer world recommended this for donations: https://www.hawaiicommunityfoundation.org/maui-strong

[Danno]

I've seen the same group recommended for donations elsewhere.

[Cono Este]

Locals are getting restless. Man the conspiracy rumors floating around, space lasers and shit, it’s not like they trusted anyone before. The town will be set afire again if developers and politicians role in and don’t work with them.

So shitty they lost their houses while the mansions that sit empty were spared. Sucks to be Hawaiian.

[AK47bp]

Locals are getting restless. Man the conspiracy rumors floating around, space lasers and shit, it’s not like they trusted anyone before. The town will be set afire again if developers and politicians role in and don’t work with them.

So shitty they lost their houses while the mansions that sit empty were spared. Sucks to be Hawaiian.

You’re a fucking idiot.

[Bunion 2020]

Just waking up to that fact?

[skaredshtles]

You’re a fucking idiot.

Stop quoting the moran.

[Norseman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKxHEyNUQeg

[muted reborn]

You guys are so reactive to anyone with a different opinion, wtf. I'm reading CE as saying the locals are pissed, not that the conspiracy theories are true. And that politicians/developers better rebuild for them and not just cut them out put up hotels and more mansions. Valid points I've read in the NYT or the Washington Post - can't remember.

[AK47bp]

Anyone that brings up conspiracy theories is a fucking idiot.

9/11 inside job, space lasers, chemtrails….just shut the fuck up and take that bullshit elsewhere.

Or better yet, start a conspiracy theory thread so you can swim in your own shitcloud with the other dimwits and not cunt up a wildfire thread.

Oh, and if conspiracy theories mean “different opinions” then all i can say is “bless your heart”.

[muted reborn]

Talking about Hawaiian locals who believe in conspiracy theories is not the issue here. The issue he's talking about is if all the locals have their rentals or whatever replaced by hotels, air bnbs, restaurants, etc. Which will happen to some extent, right?

or just never mind me you guys are a bit tightly wound about CE.

[LHutz Esq]

I was doing structural protection a couple years ago when I met my first "conductive energy weapon" proponent.

He said it was a plan to de-populate rural areas as rural folks were a threat to government/corporate control of global food supply.

I was on duty, but really wanted to ask, if that were true - why did forest fires take out suburbs, cities (within a few years of Ft Mac.), and towns. Not a lot of Ag going on in Ft. Mac.

He believed that he had seen the lightning strike - and the colour was green when "real lightning" is blue.

He also didn't seem to notice that we were trying to protect his and his neighbour's houses and were being paid by the government that apparently wanted to burn him out.

It is a weird diplomacy that has to go on out there.

I have more respect, I think, for the people that say get lost we will take care of ourselves than these folks that say the government is out to get us, while begging for (or even just accepting) our help.

I can't imagine what the first responders went through in Maui. My heart goes out to them and the other residents affected. This will stay with them forever.

[skaredshtles]

<snip> you guys are a bit tightly wound about CE.

"When a man tells you who he is...believe him."
— Maya Angelou

[XXX-er]

If i got this right they want people to give DNA so they can use it to match up with/ identify the bodies but I I can't see anyone giving up DNA for any reason

but yeah CE needs to put another layer of Aluminium foil in his hat and you wana use real aluminum not the tin foil so the local pharmascist told me

[neufox47]

Jesus, death toll is up to 89.

Can’t imagine how bad it would be if there hadn’t been an ocean for people to go get in. Sounds like dozens of not hundreds took refuge in the water.

[Cono Este]

Anyone that brings up conspiracy theories is a fucking idiot.

9/11 inside job, space lasers, chemtrails….just shut the fuck up and take that bullshit elsewhere.

Or better yet, start a conspiracy theory thread so you can swim in your own shitcloud with the other dimwits and not cunt up a wildfire thread.

Oh, and if conspiracy theories mean “different opinions” then all i can say is “bless your heart”.

Who is cunting up the thread? Little bitch.

Hey dumb ass, there are a lot of conspiracy theories in Hawaii. Not mine, but they’ve got a right to them. They’ve been fucked over. And they’ll be a lot more In the rebuilding. They don’t trust anyone.

[Cono Este]

You guys are so reactive to anyone with a different opinion, wtf. I'm reading CE as saying the locals are pissed, not that the conspiracy theories are true. And that politicians/developers better rebuild for them and not just cut them out put up hotels and more mansions. Valid points I've read in the NYT or the Washington Post - can't remember.

Thanks, but some of these guys are beyond helping. Mostly criminals now.

[Buzzworthy]

Thanks, but some of these guys are beyond helping. Mostly criminals now.

Fuck off you brain wormed motherfucker.

[LongShortLong]

And that politicians/developers better rebuild for them and not just cut them out put up hotels and more mansions. Valid points I've read in the NYT or the Washington Post - can't remember.

Last I checked, it's primarily property owners who decide what will be built. They employ the developers. Politicians have some control via zoning laws, but I'll be surprised if the electorate pushes for more zoning after a disaster. The locals likely want less so they can rebuild their unpermitted properties. My guess is the tourist trap development that was there was fairly profitable and will mostly be rebuilt in some form. If fire resistance becomes a priority, the cheap construction loved by locals will be rare. Also, it's hard not to notice the bayside resort property is one of the few still standing. Tough time to be a politician - damned no matter what you do.

In other fire news, California had lightning last night. Not expecting strong north winds so probably nothing happens.

[AK47bp]

Ah, I forgot who that cono dude was.

Carry on, my bad.

[muted reborn]

Last I checked, it's primarily property owners who decide what will be built.

Last I checked, all of us here know this too. We can debate semantics or talk about locals being pushed out due to old houses becoming reborn as new expensive rentals, or just being replaced by something more profitable for the owners/developers - if zoning allows them. I think locals who own houses may just sell the property and never rebuild, and I doubt the new owners will put up shacks for locals to live in. Anyways, I can't imagine losing everything you own as a renter/owner and not being able to afford to move back or rebuild, whatever the case may be. Politicians will be blamed for not controlling capitalism, damned no matter what they do as you said.

[muted reborn]

Thanks, but some of these guys are beyond helping. Mostly criminals now.

I have no idea what you are talking about, maybe I should have ignored this thread today.