Wildfire 2023

[BCMtnHound]

Harsh news.
Downed tree. And her crew providing first aid. Most IA crew are considered ‘young workers’ under 25. Heart goes out her family and crew.

[LHutz Esq]

Gutted for her family and her crew. She looks sooo much like someone from my Unit Crew back in the day.

No words

[skisurfmirth]

Yikes. Another fatality, this one in NWT. Just got back from there couple weeks ago. Fire in Glacier NP (Rogers pass) visible from Golden. See what tomorrows potential thunderstorms bring to the Rockies.


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[XXX-er]

I thot I seen that ^^ story and its dissappeared

its started raining which really cleared up the bad air today

at one point I almost couldn't see the top on HBM

[BmillsSkier]

Hey Canada, I hope y'all are staying safe up there.

Favor to ask: can you please take your smoke back, or at least pull it up to say, New England?

I was driving back west from the beach yesterday evening, right towards the sunset and thought to myself, man that's a crazy red hazy sky; never seen it like that. Arrived after dark so didn't notice so much but woke up this morning to what looks like pictures from some Chinese city covered in thick summertime pollution, or Cleveland in the early 70s. Can't see shit out there. Anyway, thanks in advance.

[buttahflake]

Yep, it’s back. Current AQI is 154. Let’s go Canaduh, get it sorted for fucks sake.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

The smoke isn’t going away until it snows up there. They aren’t putting those fires out


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[jackstraw]

Yep, it’s back. Current AQI is 154. Let’s go Canaduh, get it sorted for fucks sake.

19 yr old girl dies fighting these fires in CA and this is what you post?

[donutlynx]

Flat Fire here in SW Oregon. 8000 acres and growing. Red flag conditions expected tomorrow. Might get on this one.

https://www.ijpr.org/wildfire/2023-0...y-in-sw-oregon

[Bunion 2020]

Be safe, looks like things are starting to get hot.

Somehow a bunch of incidents came up in my you-tube feed, documentary about South Canyon, the Yarnell fire and several others including the Cramer Creek burn over. I did IA with that forest for 3 years prior to that incident and I wasn't very comfortable with the lack of emphasis on crew safety. Got to fly to some very cool places.

To repeat an observation you hear a lot, it was a wet & long spring and we now have a lot of grasses and fine fuels and they are drying out fast. Thank you FFs.

[TBS]

Flat Fire here in SW Oregon. 8000 acres and growing. Red flag conditions expected tomorrow. Might get on this one.

https://www.ijpr.org/wildfire/2023-0...y-in-sw-oregon

And to think this is burning in the Biscuit Fire’s burn scar
And yes, be safe firefighters

[XXX-er]

another death this time a chopper pilot which makes 3 deaths fire fighting

[HotSchmoo]

We're all going to burn obviously. Everything's fucked why are you fuckers even worrying about it anymore we're all going to die. Get fucked. Everything's fucked. Fuck off.

[TBS]

Saw two engines and a crew bus belonging to Little Tujunga Hotshots headed north on highway 97. No big fires this far north. Headed to Canukistania?

[oldnew_guy]

My crystal ball says they are headed to the Gorge for IA.

[TBS]

For what fire? I thought tunnel five was under control

[oldnew_guy]

IA - initial attack

https://youtu.be/-gjMVjlbG3g?t=123

[Meadow Skipper]

My crystal ball says they are headed to the Gorge for IA.

AKA Prepositioning.

[TBS]

Not to belabor this, but pre-positioning a crew from LA County on the OR/WA border when there’s little activity? And when there’s already a bunch of fires in CA and a big one in SW OR in the scar of Biscuit Fire?

Educate me
TIA

[Meadow Skipper]

Just speculatin’ cause I’m not in the info stream, but that big one on the RRNF in OR (and a couple more big ones in OR/WA) may have sucked an awful lot of the available PNW resources in and the Little T crew may be coming in to stand by for IA.

Or they’re on their way to the big one(s) in PNW or Canada. Or PNW crews have been busy for a while and are getting rotated out for R&R.

Things like that*. Noodle around here, especially in the Predictive Services section. :
https://gacc.nifc.gov/nwcc/

Check this out. Hotshot crews are drawn down.
https://gacc.nifc.gov/nwcc/content/p...ence/crews.pdf

* or someone stole their rigs and are heading to PDX to trade for drugs.

[oldnew_guy]

Just speculatin’ cause I’m not in the info stream, but that big one on the RRNF in OR (and a couple more big ones in OR/WA) may have sucked an awful lot of the available PNW resources in and the Little T crew may be coming in to stand by for IA.

Or they’re on their way to the big one(s) in PNW or Canada. Or PNW crews have been busy for a while and are getting rotated out for R&R.

Things like that*. Noodle around here, especially in the Predictive Services section. :
https://gacc.nifc.gov/nwcc/

Check this out. Hotshot crews are drawn down.
https://gacc.nifc.gov/nwcc/content/p...ence/crews.pdf

* or someone stole their rigs and are heading to PDX to trade for drugs.

Yup, LT has been sitting in Redmond for a few days now. R5 and R3 crews often get per-emptively staged at Redmond for further distribution when fire danger in R6 gets elevated.

If LT was heading north on 97 out of Redmond they are probably getting sent somewhere. If they were headed to Redmond, they might be still staged.

Flat Fire is getting a Type 1 team as I don't think they have a good way to keep that thing out of the Kalmiopsis without a big commitment of resources into remote terrain.

https://gacc.nifc.gov/nwcc/content/p...-12%2018:25:24

[TBS]

Ok thanks for that. I wonder if interagency logistics teams use some bastardized form of airline scheduling software to deploy assets.

I’ll let you know when I emerge from these rabbit holes of info. I like the formats better than wading thru Inciweb, but figuring out all the acronyms is making this COF irritable.
I saw the LT vehicles in Bend, so they didn’t go much farther north.

[Meadow Skipper]

I retired over 16 years ago so I’m a little rusty, but software called ROSS and (I think) IROC are used to track resources as to availability, assignments, status, and so forth. The priorities are set by MAC (multi-agency coordination) groups at the national, geographic area, and local level.

Dispatch and coordination centers take resource requests make the assignments and request (or make available) resources from outside their bailiwick according to the priorities set by MAC groups.

I could go on but if you’re interested, noodle around on that NWCC website and you can probably pick up a lot of how things are organized. Also go to the top to get an idea of the national picture.
https://gacc.nifc.gov/

FWIW, whenever I worked with the military they were impressed by the organization.

[BCMtnHound]

FWIW, whenever I worked with the military they were impressed by the organization.

All the incident command systems I’ve been involved with for BC wildfire or BC SAR originated from California wildfire learnings. Scalable, flexible, and accountable. Surprised military has invested more in the system.

[oldnew_guy]

Ok thanks for that. I wonder if interagency logistics teams use some bastardized form of airline scheduling software to deploy assets.

I’ll let you know when I emerge from these rabbit holes of info. I like the formats better than wading thru Inciweb, but figuring out all the acronyms is making this COF irritable.
I saw the LT vehicles in Bend, so they didn’t go much farther north.

Warm Springs.