Zipfit Grand Fuckin’ Teton Liner

[JKlompus]

Thanks GoldenBC. Great to hear that surgery works well for the hoji

[enginerd]

When the venerable mercury liner was on it's way out I was starting to hurt my toes by curling them. Tightening the front buckle hurt my bunions. Full length hims hurt my instep. I fixed it by putting foam on top of the toes. GF complained about arch pain. I found it was caused by her curling her toes. Foam on top fixed it. I have not seen this done before, but in my limited experience it is very effective at improving fit without cramming the toes and instep with shims bellow.

I keep asking about putting padding over the toes! Most people just kind of look at me like I’m crazy.


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[Westcoaster]

Anyone stick a spoiler between the calf strap and the liner? Perhaps with some stick on hook and loop? Seems like it would stay put.

[Andyski]

Anyone stick a spoiler between the calf strap and the liner? Perhaps with some stick on hook and loop? Seems like it would stay put.

If you mean on the tongue of the liner, yes. Worked perfectly without any hooking or looping. Setup skied like shit, it worked!

[GoldenBC]

Anyone stick a spoiler between the calf strap and the liner? Perhaps with some stick on hook and loop? Seems like it would stay put.

On the back of the boot, yes. It’s easy. Just break the glue on the Velcro strap so you can pull it off the liner a bit. Squeeze it in there and you’re good. Add some duct tap to make it bomber. Easy mod.

Not that you were asking, but for the other guy, I put the plastic from a tecnica tongue on the tongue of my Zipfit so that it wouldn’t fold in half over the shell. Worked great. Stiffened the liner a touch since it’s such a soft flexing liner. Also gives a good ledge to hold your powerstrap high without falling down all the time.

[Andyski]

I did the lazy version of your elegant tongue mod just to figure out the right lean on my boot/binder combo. Turns out I didn’t need to be any more upright

[NBABUCKS1]

I have two days in the GFT in my Hawx 130 ultra (and one day resort touring in the xtd variant) and my ankle bones are in a bunch of pain. I am pretty sure it's the area with the least amount of cork after it's migrated to other areas around the ankle bone.

I got them fitted at the show by baking them but no extra cork.

Any solution here? Add some cork to the outside pocket of both boots to soften the ankle area up? Trying to figure out when you add cork, tough because the fit seems tight when I put them in the boot but not so bad once I'm in after a few runs.

[toast2266]

I have two days in the GFT in my Hawx 130 ultra (and one day resort touring in the xtd variant) and my ankle bones are in a bunch of pain. I am pretty sure it's the area with the least amount of cork after it's migrated to other areas around the ankle bone.

I got them fitted at the show by baking them but no extra cork.

Any solution here? Add some cork to the outside pocket of both boots to soften the ankle area up? Trying to figure out when you add cork, tough because the fit seems tight when I put them in the boot but not so bad once I'm in after a few runs.

I had to add some foam to the outside of my freerides. 100% there to keep my ankle bones off the shell - didn't need it at all for heel hold. But I tried to fix it by adding cork and never quite got there, so I broke out the foam.

[SacTo]

I had to add some foam to the outside of my freerides. 100% there to keep my ankle bones off the shell - didn't need it at all for heel hold. But I tried to fix it by adding cork and never quite got there, so I broke out the foam.

Sounds like you both need a malleolus punch.

[toast2266]

Sounds like you both need a malleolus punch.

Mine is pretty much right on top of the pivot. Maybe a great boot fitter could handle it, but in 20 years of trying, I've never found a shell or a fitter that could fix it without foam.

[Norseman]

GregL can do it. He punched two Langes for me, RS 130 and Xt3 140, both right on the pivot. I bet others could, too, with care.

A question for those w miles on the GFT and Intuitions:

I'm pretty intrigued by these tourable zips as a do-it-all liner but wary of the reported coldness. I've skied Intuitions for 15 yrs and have always loved the warmth. For active resort skiing w/ long traversing, short bootpacking, sidestepping, etc when I'm on the edge of sweaty but w/ comfortable core and warm dry hands, my feet are usually on the edge of cold with an intermittently numb right toe. And that's with a "scuse me I gotta Lange" to unbuckle the lowers on every lift ride.

I have good shell fits and good liner bakes with double toe caps... great Intuition fits that ski great, or so I think.

Q: will a similarly good fitting GFT just be too fkn cold for me? Or will the goo pressure distribute so perfectly that I could expect a better skiing system with less buckle pressure and maybe slightly less impinged circulation?

Have you guys previously stoked and just-warm in Intuitions been able to keep warm toes in the GFT?

Thanks

[themutt]

I have two days in the GFT in my Hawx 130 ultra (and one day resort touring in the xtd variant) and my ankle bones are in a bunch of pain. I am pretty sure it's the area with the least amount of cork after it's migrated to other areas around the ankle bone.

I got them fitted at the show by baking them but no extra cork.

Any solution here? Add some cork to the outside pocket of both boots to soften the ankle area up? Trying to figure out when you add cork, tough because the fit seems tight when I put them in the boot but not so bad once I'm in after a few runs.

I had a similar feeling but it was caused by too much cork over the ankle bone making the fit really tight around the pivot point of the boot. This was the case even after baking them to get an initial fit.

What solved it for me was heating up the liner, putting it on, and using my thumbs to push all the cork away from my the painful area of my ankle bone prior to putting the liner in the boot.

That got me to a point where the pain was much better and they’ve become comfy around that spot after a few tours.

YMMV

[nickwm21]

This seems to have turned into the general zipfit thread…. So I’ll ask a general question….

For the zipcurious - how important is it to get fitted for a zipfit at your local bootfitter? Is there more or less room for error when fitting at home vs intuitions?

I ask because it appears that zipfit and my local shop is out of the my size / suggested liner… If I could find that liner lightly used or online order from an out of state shop, should I move on it? If I am confident on my shell fit, how accurate is zipfits online liner selector?


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[jackattack]

This seems to have turned into the general zipfit thread…. So I’ll ask a general question….

For the zipcurious - how important is it to get fitted for a zipfit at your local bootfitter? Is there more or less room for error when fitting at home vs intuitions?

I ask because it appears that zipfit and my local shop is out of the my size / suggested liner… If I could find that liner lightly used or online order from an out of state shop, should I move on it? If I am confident on my shell fit, how accurate is zipfits online liner selector?

If you know how a boot is supposed to fit and you're patient and ok with a little pain during break-in you'll be fine with diy. I've done a dozen intuitions at home (hundreds in a shop) and zips are the easiest and most forgiving liners I've ever fit myself. Make sure you have the plunger tool and some omfit tubes with the new liners. I used the microwave method: wrap the liner in an old t-shirt and heat on 50% for 1:30 for the initial break in. More info here: https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...t-zipfit-gurus

[GoldenBC]

This seems to have turned into the general zipfit thread…. So I’ll ask a general question….

For the zipcurious - how important is it to get fitted for a zipfit at your local bootfitter? Is there more or less room for error when fitting at home vs intuitions?

I ask because it appears that zipfit and my local shop is out of the my size / suggested liner… If I could find that liner lightly used or online order from an out of state shop, should I move on it? If I am confident on my shell fit, how accurate is zipfits online liner selector?


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Dead easy. Can’t fuck it up and you can try a million times. Just get it warm, nothing crazy.

Bigger question is why don’t you bring it to your local bootfitter that is familiar with zipfits and have them do it? We charge $30cdn to fit them initially and $10 per tube plus time for extra cork and fitting. It’s literally the easiest thing the bootfitter will do all day.

[Westcoaster]

Easy as could be, Velcro doesn't really stick very well to the plastic on the gft, but doesn't really matter.

Ski the whites has a nice selection of spoilers, fwiw.

[funkendrenchman]

I have two days in the GFT in my Hawx 130 ultra (and one day resort touring in the xtd variant) and my ankle bones are in a bunch of pain. I am pretty sure it's the area with the least amount of cork after it's migrated to other areas around the ankle bone.

I got them fitted at the show by baking them but no extra cork.

Any solution here? Add some cork to the outside pocket of both boots to soften the ankle area up? Trying to figure out when you add cork, tough because the fit seems tight when I put them in the boot but not so bad once I'm in after a few runs.

Did you mold your shell at the same time? I can barely get my foot in there with the GFT and no shell mold.

[NBABUCKS1]

Did you mold your shell at the same time? I can barely get my foot in there with the GFT and no shell mold.

I did not shell mold and perhaps I should have.

Regardless there are thin spots right at the ankle bone that maybe a shell mold would have helped. I ordered a few tubes of cork to see if it solves the problem. I'm not $600 into these things and based on everything I was reading/listening to I hope these last me a decade at this point.

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OMfit is back in stock at zipfit.com

[Cocximus]

Does anyone have the 27.5 in stock?

[kootenayskier]

I’m endlessly trying to resolve my wife’s ultra low volume feet touring boot issues. Inbounds she’s happy skiing 95mm Dobermanns (rivets removed) unpunched, with intuitions, extra heel padding, and cranked down. She could easily go narrower if there were some sensible options.

She’s currently touring in Lange XT3 LVs (claimed 97mm) which are way too heavy and have minimal ROM, but they’re they were the only touring boot that comes close to fitting her. However, even with a HV Intuition pro tour liner, and extra padding to try and lock down her heel, she has to crank them down in ways that are uncomfortable, is still swimming in them, and in anything other than perfect powder she hates them.

Is it plausible (it’s an expensive road to go down) that Zipfits could actually work to take up all the volume she’d need to make one of the mid-volume, do it all, 1300gm touring boots ski and and walk like the 93-95mm touring boot she actually requires?

[jackattack]

I’m endlessly trying to resolve my wife’s ultra low volume feet touring boot issues. Inbounds she’s happy skiing 95mm Dobermanns (rivets removed) unpunched, with intuitions, extra heel padding, and cranked down. She could easily go narrower if there were some sensible options.

She’s currently touring in Lange XT3 LVs (claimed 97mm) which are way too heavy and have minimal ROM, but they’re they were the only touring boot that comes close to fitting her. However, even with a HV Intuition pro tour liner, and extra padding to try and lock down her heel, she has to crank them down in ways that are uncomfortable, is still swimming in them, and in anything other than perfect powder she hates them.

Is it plausible (it’s an expensive road to go down) that Zipfits could actually work to take up all the volume she’d need to make one of the mid-volume, do it all, 1300gm touring boots ski and and walk like the 93-95mm touring boot she actually requires?

Sounds like my wife. I’m going to keep a lookout for some zips for her Langes over the summer.

Scarpa Quattro is an lv touring option.

[enginerd]

I went scarpa quattro after not being able to make the zgtp work reasonably and it’s pretty sweet if you set aside all the scarpa tongue and rivet weirdness. It’s very low volume through the mid foot but it’s wider in the forefoot. I still needed a thin shim and some padding over the top of the toe box of the liner to dial it in. It also doesn’t have the same heel hold. But it’s the best of the new line of lightish/siffish touring boots so far.

Would be pretty awesome if you could just use the GFT liner for everything although I’m not sure it would work to swap between Nordicas and scarpas regularly…she might just always be in the remoulding phase and rarely be truly dialed.


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[GoldenBC]

The Quattro had worse heel hold than the ZeroG? Jesus, thats bad.

[PinyonJuniper5]

The Quattro had worse heel hold than the ZeroG? Jesus, thats bad.

I can definitely get a little heel lift when I’m skiing hard. The instep is pretty low, though. So it kind of depends on the shape of your foot whether it will hold your heel down or not.


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[enginerd]

The Quattro had worse heel hold than the ZeroG? Jesus, thats bad.

Maybe that was a bit too harsh. I don’t have major heel hold issues on either after fitting. when the bootfitter added those foam butterfly’s my heel retention on the zgtp was pretty good. With the Quattro, there is such little instep volume that it holds your heel fine. But I do notice a little bit of lift here and there especially if buckles are loose. It just doesn’t seem to have as pronounced of a heel cup.


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