Snow for the Euros.

[subtle plague]

the euro model doesnt see anything 9 days out. Your pow alert is as likely as the 2m+ from wepowder all the time

engelberg has just broken its all time low with 40cm at the trübsee.

[bobinch]

20-40cm possible! And just a week away? AMAZING!

I have another amazing alert for April! It's gonna be epic.

and you do realize that the current current models runs start to let the trough drift into the mediterranean and may be only the southern alps get any snow, if at all?

Doesn't it get tiring being so miserable? Cheer up old boy 🤣

[subtle plague]

It's a miserable season everywhere. Except verbier of course.

[bobinch]

It's a miserable season everywhere. Except verbier of course.

You’ll be shocked but we’re even struggling to find untracked powder fields here after 3 weeks of sun! But the last time we got 30cm of fresh it wasn’t so bad hence my optimism 😉

[beer30]

This is the year I finally learned to be happy just to be skiing. Is it just man made, yeah. Have I had a single powder day in Europe, no. To hell with it, I’m happy just to be skiing!

[beer30]

This is the year I finally learned to be happy just to be skiing. Is it just man made, yeah. Have I had a single powder day in Europe, no. To hell with it, I’m happy just to be skiing!

And the reality of it is that we all ought to be, cause this sport has probably twenty years left over here!!

[subtle plague]

And the reality of it is that we all ought to be, cause this sport has probably twenty years left over here!!

I enjoyed the wrod with ny daughter. It's just sad that it's getting more likely.

Im not all doom and gloom.

17/18 was good.
18/19 was pretty epic in the east and a good season in General.
19/20 was ok.
20/21 was all time
21/22 crap
22/23 will likely be crap too.

But we had 4 decent to good seasons before.

[powderfanatic]

@subtle- are the models continuously looking bleak? I trust your longer range than my novice GFS runs I look at. I am flying over for about the first 10 days of march and hoping for something/anything to change. We came last year and rode 10 days in March and never saw a cloud. There were better conditions than this year but not exactly what I was looking for. Do you see anything in the longer range showing promise. There is a last minute cancellation option where we lose some cash but it may be worth taking the loss and pivoting elsewhere with better snow. Any insights would be appreciated!!

[Rossymcg]

This is the year I finally learned to be happy just to be skiing. Is it just man made, yeah. Have I had a single powder day in Europe, no. To hell with it, I’m happy just to be skiing!

Me too man. I'm embracing bumps, slush, corn, crust, wind buffed, packed, chop, chalk and anything else other than powder.
only powder ive skied this season was in November on the stubai gletscher and that was marginal.

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[Beder]

@subtle- are the models continuously looking bleak? I trust your longer range than my novice GFS runs I look at. I am flying over for about the first 10 days of march and hoping for something/anything to change. We came last year and rode 10 days in March and never saw a cloud. There were better conditions than this year but not exactly what I was looking for. Do you see anything in the longer range showing promise. There is a last minute cancellation option where we lose some cash but it may be worth taking the loss and pivoting elsewhere with better snow. Any insights would be appreciated!!

I land March 2. Engelberg then Rueras. Every model I look at suggests snow starting before then.


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[subtle plague]

I land March 2. Engelberg then Rueras. Every model I look at suggests snow starting before then.


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Yeah well. Yeah kind of. But nothing that changes the problem.

Still we might see a little refresh.

Southern alps are more interesting between 23rd and 27th of feb.

Huge spread in the Models after the 21st

[Buke]

Southern alps are more interesting between 23rd and 27th of feb.

Huge spread in the Models after the 21st

I land in La Grave March 4th, hoping that there's a chance for improvement in the situation before then.

[powderfanatic]

I see snow next week and weekend, maybe, then things sort of fall apart. again, though, novice with tracking weather models. also i have learned anything outside of 5-7 days on gfs is directional in nature and could be completely wrong

[beer30]

Snow or not, there are worse places to take a ski vacation then Europe so don’t stress too much 🍻🚠

[powderfanatic]

This is true but we lived there and have a good understanding of what we are looking for. I dont need it to nuke the whole time since that brings its own issues but getting a feel for the long range is what i am after....thanks for any insights

[Choucas]

Headed to the Arlberg a week from today. Then a week in the Dolomites. Weather and snow will be what it will be. Gotta be better than Vermont skiing right now. Can't wait to get back to some of my favorite places with some of my favorite people.

[subtle plague]

This is true but we lived there and have a good understanding of what we are looking for. I dont need it to nuke the whole time since that brings its own issues but getting a feel for the long range is what i am after....thanks for any insights

ATM you can choose your model: much snow in the North: USA... USA
Much snow in the south: EURO
No snow: German and Canadian. Boooooo to the nazis and Moose fuckers. Haven't looked at the British Model. It has crooked teeth.

Ensembles are 50:50 North south [emoji16]

[Buster Highmen]

ATM Haven't looked at the British Model. It has crooked teeth.

And big ears. Don't forget the big ears.

[beer30]

I think a better question is not how much snow is coming, but how will the existing snow hold up to the holiday crowds 🤣🤣

[subtle plague]

I think a better question is not how much snow is coming, but how will the existing snow hold up to the holiday crowds 🤣🤣

Existing snow? Where?

I mean except verbier.

[bobinch]

Existing snow? Where?

I mean except verbier.

Yesterday 😘

[bobinch]

Mont Rogneux - nice tour

[beer30]

Existing snow? Where?

I mean except verbier.

Classic area, pretty much the Verbier of the Freistaat

[Buster Highmen]

Is there any hope of a negative NAO or the SSW forcing a change to snow and winter within the next 2 weeks?

[subtle plague]

Is there any hope of a negative NAO or the SSW forcing a change to snow and winter within the next 2 weeks?

Large scale patterns seem to change early March. The vortex displacement Favouring the Northern alps. There is downward propagation from the stratosphere in the models.


The weekend in the south could be interesting already. Still very uncertain.


This morning Germans and canadians want snow in the south gfs ( a lot less) in the North. Euro isn't out yet.
Crooked teeth Model is on gfs side.

Seems the Aforementioned Models have taken my criticism to heart [emoji3]

Ensembles see more in the south and look promising BUT:. No clarity before Wednesday I'd say. Can still be zero or hero.