Anyone have anything they'd like to rant about?

[Andeh]

Without fail, every time I swap tires or add sealant I somehow end up with a huge fucking mess. Am I the only one?

It's never the same thing either. Tonight the tire seated perfectly with my floor pump and I was on track for the cleanest tire swap ever. Add first syringe of 2oz sealant, perfect. Go to add another 2oz and the hose clogs as I'm pressing the plunger and bursts off the syringe. Sealant everywhere.

That Stan's syringe has done that to me a few times. Something about the hose lends it to clogging (either in the hose itself or in the valve stem). I just squirt directly into the tire before finishing sealing the bead now.

[HankScorpio]

Without fail, every time I swap tires or add sealant I somehow end up with a huge fucking mess. Am I the only one?

It's never the same thing either. Tonight the tire seated perfectly with my floor pump and I was on track for the cleanest tire swap ever. Add first syringe of 2oz sealant, perfect. Go to add another 2oz and the hose clogs as I'm pressing the plunger and bursts off the syringe. Sealant everywhere.

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I with ya. 9/10 times I end up wasting sealant and spewing that shit everywhere when I swap out tires. That shit ain't cheap either.

Same goes for bleeding disc brakes. Mineral oil all over the place, contaminated brake pads......good times.

[toast2266]

That Stan's syringe has done that to me a few times. Something about the hose lends it to clogging (either in the hose itself or in the valve stem). I just squirt directly into the tire before finishing sealing the bead now.

X2. I only inject through the valve stem if I need to top off sealant. Otherwise I just pour a bit in there before mounting the second bead.

[Dee Hubbs]

Without fail, every time I swap tires or add sealant I somehow end up with a huge fucking mess. Am I the only one?

It's never the same thing either. Tonight the tire seated perfectly with my floor pump and I was on track for the cleanest tire swap ever. Add first syringe of 2oz sealant, perfect. Go to add another 2oz and the hose clogs as I'm pressing the plunger and bursts off the syringe. Sealant everywhere.

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Thats impressive? But seriously what's your technique? I could put on a new tire/new sealant in my living room, sitting on the couch over the rug, while watching TV, and inflate it without a drop.

[Iowagriz]

Stan's goo syringe over presta always spewed for me. Then I realized that if I use a presta/schrader adapter, the syringe screws onto the schrader and no leaks.

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[Dee Hubbs]

-Seat the tire bead completely on one side of the rim
-seat the tire 75% of the way on the working side of the rim, leaving 2”-3” of unseated tire left
- have the valve at 1 o’clock, have the unseated tire section at 5 o’clock
- pour your 3oz of sealant into the unseated section of the tire, so it pours down into the tire down towards 6 o’clock.
-rotate the wheel counter clockwise so the sealant is rolling away from your unseated section
-then roll the dry tire bead onto the rim.
-pump up the tire with the valve at 12 o’clock position
-listen for that satisfying bead snap sound.
-zero Stan’s outside the tire.

[smartyiak]

-Seat the tire bead completely on one side of the rim
-seat the tire 75% of the way on the working side of the rim
- have the valve at 1 o’clock, have the unseated tire at 5 o’clock
- pour your 3oz of sealant into the unseated section of the tire, so it pours down into the tire down towards 6 o’clock.
-rotate the wheel counter clockwise so the sealant is rolling away from your unseated section
-then roll the dry tire bead onto the rim.
-pump up the tire with the valve at 12 o’clock position
-listen for that satisfying bead snap sound.
-zero Stan’s outside the tire.

Yep...I watched a 5min YouTube video that used this. Zero problems/Zero Spill. I'm joining the "user error" crowd.

[El Chupacabra]

Without fail, every time I swap tires or add sealant I somehow end up with a huge fucking mess. Am I the only one?

It's never the same thing either. Tonight the tire seated perfectly with my floor pump and I was on track for the cleanest tire swap ever. Add first syringe of 2oz sealant, perfect. Go to add another 2oz and the hose clogs as I'm pressing the plunger and bursts off the syringe. Sealant everywhere.

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Assegai for a rear tire.... feeling strong?

[toast2266]

-Seat the tire bead completely on one side of the rim
-seat the tire 75% of the way on the working side of the rim, leaving 2”-3” of unseated tire left
- have the valve at 1 o’clock, have the unseated tire section at 5 o’clock
- pour your 3oz of sealant into the unseated section of the tire, so it pours down into the tire down towards 6 o’clock.
-rotate the wheel counter clockwise so the sealant is rolling away from your unseated section
-then roll the dry tire bead onto the rim.
-pump up the tire with the valve at 12 o’clock position
-listen for that satisfying bead snap sound.
-zero Stan’s outside the tire.

Spot on, but there are additional steps:

Tire / rim combo doesn't want to seat at 35psi: put on safety glasses.

At 40 psi: put on ear protection

At 45psi: put the tire outside the garage door with the pump hose running in through the barely cracked door. Continue pumping until it either seats or explodes.

[grskier]

I use both methods.. but, occasionally when finishing up a stubborn tire/rim combo I still end up spilling some sealant because I try and be slick and get some leverage and the whole thing slips out of my hands.

[HotSchmoo]

Quoting myself bc:

I was driving past the local Giant store, so I popped in to ask about the new Propel. The conversation went as follows:

Sales lady: Can I help you?
Me: I was just gonna see about the new Propel.
SL: What?
Me: the 2023 Propel.
SL: Is that, like, a brand?
Me: The new Giant...2023 Propel...it's a road bike.
SL: And it's a Giant?
Me: Thank you...I'm just gonna go look over here....

Yeah what's up with the salesfloor staff being clueless at the name brand shops? Went into the local trek shop with the girlfriend to get her a new bike. Explain to the sales guy that gf isnt a super hardcore cyclist, just want something basic to use a few times a month, we were on a tight budget etc.
GF wasnt sure if she wanted a light duty xc mountain bike or more of a gravel type bike.
Sales guy acted like we were morons and then tried to sell us a $4000 road bike. Went somewhere else.
I'd bought my trek hardtail from the same shop prior to it getting bought out by the Trek corp. So i take it in to get a new chain and my free tune that came with the bike purchase. Get it home and it's riding and shifting like shit. I mess with it myself a bit and can't figure out what's up. I was sure the cassette was fine though so take it to a different shop where a friend works. FUCKING TREK STORE MECHANIC PUT THE WRONG CHAIN ON MY BIKE!
I'll never go back.

[rideit]

I certainly hope you guys are removing the presta (or schrader) valve core before adding sealant through it, if you are doing it that way (or just topping off). The little Stan’s bottles are designed to fit in perfectly, no need for the stupid syringe thingy.

[Touring_Sedan]

Without fail, every time I swap tires or add sealant I somehow end up with a huge fucking mess. Am I the only one?

It's never the same thing either. Tonight the tire seated perfectly with my floor pump and I was on track for the cleanest tire swap ever. Add first syringe of 2oz sealant, perfect. Go to add another 2oz and the hose clogs as I'm pressing the plunger and bursts off the syringe. Sealant everywhere.

Big fan of these injectors. You remove the core and the rigid tube goes all the way into the tire. The valve is a nice touch too.

Spot on, but there are additional steps:

Tire / rim combo doesn't want to seat at 35psi: put on safety glasses.

At 40 psi: put on ear protection

At 45psi: put the tire outside the garage door with the pump hose running in through the barely cracked door. Continue pumping until it either seats or explodes.

Where were you last week when I was seating a 29x3 DHF ghetto tubeless on my Rabbit Holes. I was lucky enough to have sunglasses on, but forgot the hearing protection. My wife thought someone shot at our house. I'm still finding glitter EVERYWHERE.

[El Chupacabra]

^^^ Looks like you got a visit from the angry whelk.

[XXX-er]

new assegai & dhrII on a wtb i30 rim was the easiest instal eva,

pour the stans in the tire pop the beed on and inflate

[Dee Hubbs]

Spot on, but there are additional steps:
Tire / rim combo doesn't want to seat at 35psi: put on safety glasses.
At 40 psi: put on ear protection
At 45psi: put the tire outside the garage door with the pump hose running in through the barely cracked door. Continue pumping until it either seats or explodes.

I'm still in the living room, sitting on the couch. I don't have Peltors or Safety glasses in my living room.

I seat all new tubeless to 45psi and re-check the pressure in the morning.

[bagtagley]

This is the rant thread, not the look at how good I do stuff thread. Ev’s post was a funny and worthwhile rant.

[climberevan]

Next time I rebuild a shock I'll have to take pics of the inevitable aftermath. No matter how many times and different ways I do it, I end up spurting shock oil all over the place, sometimes into my eyes. Sometimes it happens when I'm putting the LSC adjuster stack back into the reservoir, sometimes it happens when I'm putting the shaft back into the body, and sometimes it happens when I'm adjusting the IFP. Fuck me.

[toast2266]

I'm still in the living room, sitting on the couch. I don't have Peltors or Safety glasses in my living room.

I seat all new tubeless to 45psi and re-check the pressure in the morning.

Clearly you've never installed Terrene 2.6 tires.

[Dee Hubbs]

This is the rant thread, not the look at how good I do stuff thread. Ev’s post was a funny and worthwhile rant.

Dee Hubbs slowly exits the room, and re-enter "ask the expert" room.

[XXX-er]

I seat all new tubeless to 45psi and re-check the pressure in the morning.

same^^, great minds think alike

take the maxxis product off that plastic hanger its cable tied on, let all the kinks in the rubber relax in a warm house. The tire springs out ward to caress the rim, pour in some stan's and I could probably inflate that tire with a frame pump it was so easy

have lots of spare time to wank about on TGR reading about people having trouble with cheap tires,

the way i see it I can't afford to buy cheap tires

do all tire mgfrs make to the ETRTO standards and is that why this product goes on SO easy ?

[evdog]

-Seat the tire bead completely on one side of the rim
-seat the tire 75% of the way on the working side of the rim, leaving 2”-3” of unseated tire left
- have the valve at 1 o’clock, have the unseated tire section at 5 o’clock
- pour your 3oz of sealant into the unseated section of the tire, so it pours down into the tire down towards 6 o’clock.
-rotate the wheel counter clockwise so the sealant is rolling away from your unseated section
-then roll the dry tire bead onto the rim.
-pump up the tire with the valve at 12 o’clock position
-listen for that satisfying bead snap sound.
-zero Stan’s outside the tire.

Yup, I've done this many times with similarly clean results. And that's about the time you'll discover some issue like an air leak that requires removing the sealant-filled tire to fix. And we all know how that's going to go....huge mess ensues.

Like I said, a mess seems to happen without fail, and it's always something different.

[evdog]

Next time I rebuild a shock I'll have to take pics of the inevitable aftermath. No matter how many times and different ways I do it, I end up spurting shock oil all over the place, sometimes into my eyes. Sometimes it happens when I'm putting the LSC adjuster stack back into the reservoir, sometimes it happens when I'm putting the shaft back into the body, and sometimes it happens when I'm adjusting the IFP. Fuck me.

I don't service shocks beyond air can/seals but this sounds like fork servicing for me. Cycle the piston to get oil out and it shoots everywhere or misses the oil pan you didn't notice got kicked out of the way. Or get a couple steps out of order and have to dump oil you've already added and pull the lowers off again. Still doesn't approach the mess I get with tire sealant though.....

[bagtagley]

Dee Hubbs slowly exits the room, and re-enter "ask the expert" room.

Ha! I forgot to add a smiley. Your expertise is always appreciated. I'm also a little jealous because I've added sealant countless times and can only manage to do it without making a mess about half the time.

Like I said, a mess seems to happen without fail, and it's always something different.

This

[Dee Hubbs]

Ha! I forgot to add a smiley. Your expertise is always appreciated. I'm also a little jealous because I've added sealant countless times and can only manage to do it without making a mess about half the time.

Next time I mount a tire, with no drips, no mess, perfectly seated, rotated and shaken to to evenly distribute the Stans, AND then realize I put the tread on backwards and have to take it off, I’ll post up the mess I make them.