If only there was something we could do...

[TNKen]

It's the American way.

Unfortunately, this is typically the case.

[toast2266]

If we are looking at preserving the population, what are we doing about

Illegal drug use 750,000
Cigarettes 480,000
Medical errors 250,000
Alcohol 95,000
Car accidents 43,000

Total: 1,618,000 annual deaths

So you're saying we should regulate those things more / more effectively?

OK. But that means we've gotta regulate guns more too.

[TNKen]

Maybe we should make the drugs legal? The whole illegal/ban thing isn't working.

The druggies are trying to help correct this trend. Here lately at the meth and fentanyl gatherings, the "job" of one of the attendees is to remain sober enough to administer the Narcan.

[Bobby Stainless]

You're sounding desperately dumb

You get bullied by your old man too?

[mcphee]

You can see how the crowd starts to embolden each other.

It's pretty fascinating to watch the middle school style crew gather to pick on the unpopular kid.

No doubt a learned behavior from a shitty childhood or some other trauma growing up.

Can't say the same for myself or my kids. We live a charmed life.

Lol. Your faux and performative nobility is so tired and transparent.

Malignant projection is your MO.

[Bobby Stainless]

Lol. Your faux and performative nobility is so tired and transparent.

Your need to join the crowd is pathetic. Hope you enjoy your TGR popularity and all it has to offer.

Now go punch some gun owners in the face, Raging Bull.

[ex-powderbroker]

[Bobby Stainless]

I would take a hard look on the inside as to why one would feel the need to make personal attacks towards a stranger on a ski forum.

Albeit from the safety of a device.

A few of you definitely don't need to own firearms. I can agree with that.

[mcphee]

Keep projecting bud! Should I repost the 1st hundred pages of the Carfax thread you fucking hypocrite?

[Bobby Stainless]

Keep projecting bud! Should I repost the 1st hundred pages of the Carfax thread you fucking hypocrite?

Exactly how much mental real estate do I own in your head? JFC you need therapy.

[skaredshtles]

Maybe we should make the drugs legal? The whole illegal/ban thing isn't working.

This has no bearing on this conversation, but yes... yes we should.

[Bobby Stainless]

That would do a lot more to curb gun deaths than an assault weapons ban.

The majority of gun deaths are fueled by drug and gang activity. Probably 80%.

[skaredshtles]

That would do a lot more to curb gun deaths than an assault weapons ban.

We need to do both.

[Bobby Stainless]

Well that's just like... your opinion.

[jackstraw]

That would do a lot more to curb gun deaths than an assault weapons ban.

The majority of gun deaths are fueled by drug and gang activity. Probably 80%.

Yeah, those gangs shooting up schools is serious issue.

Some people just luv their gunz more than innocent school children. That's the bottom line. Just look at this thread. Clear as day who the few are in here and they might be the more reasonable gun owners out there.

[MultiVerse]

Cigarettes 480,000

A lot of smoking deaths are sort of baked in because cancer and other health problems take a long time to develop. Cigarette smoking on the other hand among U.S. adults is around all-time lows.

A lot of that comes down to higher taxes on cigarettes and public health messaging. There's a younger generation of Americans who grew up fully aware of the hazards associated with smoking.

Maybe we should raise taxes on guns and use the revenues to fund public health campaigns exposing the dangers of unsecured guns in America?

[Bobby Stainless]

Yeah, those gangs shooting up schools is serious issue.

More of an issue than mass shootings yes. By a large margin.

It's just not televised, so you don't know about it.

[Buzzworthy]

This is going well.

[mcphee]

So you’re saying that people who chose the gang life getting murdered is more of an issue than kids getting murdered in school because one demographic’s murder rate is a bigger number than the other? Sounds about right with you. It’s all about the bigger number with you.

[Bobby Stainless]

It's not like any meaningful legislation is coming from The Padded Room.

And if it does... It'll be my Class 3 idea.

[SumJongGuy]

That would do a lot more to curb gun deaths than an assault weapons ban.

The majority of gun deaths are fueled by drug and gang activity. Probably 80%.

I think you're leaving out suicides here.

[Bobby Stainless]

So you’re saying that people who chose the gang life getting murdered is more of an issue than kids getting murdered in school because one demographic’s murder rate is a bigger number than the other? Sounds about right with you. It’s all about the bigger number with you.

Not at all.

I'm saying drug reform would do more for curbing gun deaths than an assault weapons ban.

I'm not assigning value to the dead. I would bet more innocent bystanders are killed by gang/drug violence than in mass shootings.

[SumJongGuy]

A lot of smoking deaths are sort of baked in because cancer and other health problems take a long time to develop. Cigarette smoking on the other hand among U.S. adults is around all-time lows.

A lot of that comes down to higher taxes on cigarettes and public health messaging. There's a younger generation of Americans who grew up fully aware of the hazards associated with smoking.

Maybe we should raise taxes on guns and use the revenues to fund public health campaigns exposing the dangers of unsecured guns in America?

Guns are actually a lot like cigarettes. They make the user/owner feel better but they are actually quite dangerous to that person and everyone else around them, especially immediate family..

[Dantheman]

If we are looking at preserving the population, what are we doing about

Illegal drug use 750,000
Cigarettes 480,000
Medical errors 250,000
Alcohol 95,000
Car accidents 43,000

Total: 1,618,000 annual deaths

JFC, the drug use number is patently false.

[Bobby Stainless]

Guns are actually a lot like cigarettes. They make the user/owner feel better but they are actually quite dangerous to that person and everyone else around them, especially immediate family..

Unless you are one of the people involved in the 1500 instances of defensive use per year. I bet those people are safer.