Ukraine

[Ted Striker]

Party on Wayne. Just don't play Stairway

[riser4]

You’re a cold styrofoam cup of gas station coffee, you!

And a month old hot dog that's been spinning to obscurity in the device next to the above coffee maker. On a moldy bun. With expired mayo.

[subtle plague]

Germans really have their head up their ass wrt china. They may not, to your expert ass, need more water but they very much have plans to take more water. There were water shortages earlier this month to make snow for the shitshow games

I swore I'd never reply to you anymore, but you do realize how far Tibet and the northwestern chinese dry steppe are apart and which water sheds are concerned? Hence my palm springs taklamakan joke which you apparently didn't get. And no I won't Respond any more. [emoji6]

[frorider]

Netflix and chill: https://www.politico.eu/article/us-s...in-propaganda/

[dunfree]

I swore I'd never reply to you anymore, but you do realize how far Tibet and the northwestern chinese dry steppe are apart and which water sheds are concerned? Hence my palm springs taklamakan joke which you apparently didn't get. And no I won't Respond any more. [emoji6]

And yet you are a shameless clout chasing insecure kraut so you do. Yes I’m aware you stupid cunt, and so is china
https://thediplomat.com/2021/10/what...ering-project/

There’s plenty of info out there, but I guess Germans pretending not to know has a long history

[Ted Striker]

Netflix and chill: https://www.politico.eu/article/us-s...in-propaganda/

Next, Netflix will arrange to have Ukraine blow up its own bridge.

[abraham]

There’s plenty of info out there, but I guess Germans pretending not to know has a long history

From done of what I've read, western European intelligence screwed up and didn't believe this was really coming. The German spy chief had to escape Kyiv by car because he got caught there when Russia invaded.

"Rainbows of peace" as a Russian official described the missile attacks on the BBC earlier this week.

Posting it again because it's an interesting bit of history.

Oh Russia knows how. PUTIN knows how. He literally made his name on it.

See Grozny 1995 vs Grozny 1999. In 95 the Red Army had the defenders outnumbered 10 to 1 and it was a year long bloody and destructive fight that caused 30k civilian casualties and crushed a city <10% the size of Kyiv.

When Russia came back for the Second Chechen War in 1999 with Putin in charge, they took Grozny in a month with 1/2 the troop strength advantage and 1/4 the civilian casualties. He then prevailed against the insurgency over the next 9 years. It gained Putin a lot of political credit at home.

But Putin cannot pull a Grozny '99. I don't think the world is going to stand for a similar performance at scale. Even 50K civilian casualties in a first world metro is not gonna be a good look, much less 500K, with the power of modern media and livestream video. He won't be able to keep it out of his population's heads.

Also, Ukraine is 40 Chechnyas.

I heard someone recently say they don't really think counterinsurgency is possible without war crimes, so it becomes a question of what people are willing to put up with seeing. That its Ukraine and not some far away country in the Caucasus probably makes this harder, unless something else comes along like a ship burning to shift our collective attention away.

It's interesting to see Chechen troops being sent to Ukraine.

[summit]

From done of what I've read, western European intelligence screwed up and didn't believe this was really coming. The German spy chief had to escape Kyiv by car because he got caught there when Russia invaded.

US Intel was spot fucking on. We called it right on the money.

don't really think counterinsurgency is possible without war crimes

"#Russia has now deployed TOS-1 launchers to the outskirts of heavily populated areas

Thermobaric weapons against civilian targets have zero military purpose

It would be a war crime aimed at terrorizing & slaughtering people into submission"

-Vice Chair US Intelligence Committee

[LongShortLong]

From done of what I've read, western European intelligence screwed up and didn't believe this was really coming. The German spy chief had to escape Kyiv by car because he got caught there when Russia invaded.

Hmm... I'd expect the Germans to have good intelligence, growing up staring down the Soviet barrel and all. Certainly they knew it could happen, or worse. Everybody knows armies roll across Europe now and then.

Probably like us in here, confusing what we want to happen with what may or will happen. I sure hope Putin's getting his ass handed to him - that doesn't mean he is.

[Lvovsky]

So nothing new to report from Ukraine? I guess I’ll channel surf to see if anything has developed

Get Telegram app. I’ll some channels that share photos and videos from Ukraine. It will not be in English tho.

[grinch]

Sooo good

https://twitter.com/aliostad/status/...1hyLvdEHw&s=19

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[summit]

If Putin uses thermobarics on civilians, I think that is the trigger for the risky "no fly zone" idea I had earlier... either that or just semi-plausible-denial attacks against Russian air and tactical rocket units by F-22, F-35, various stealth drones, maybe even B-2s. We have B-21s but not sure if they are combat ready...

Suddenly we wish we'd built the RAH-66 Comanche after all.

[ill-advised strategy]

I’m now only able to stream one of the radio stations from kiev. 101.7… and it’s a lot of pretty dramatic talking and kinda heavy music.
I don’t speak Ukrainian, but I can sure pick up a vibe.
This is music you listen to in the locker room before a hockey game.

[Thaleia]

Why do so many of the captured russian soldiers have clear tape over their eyes?

eg. https://twitter.com/StrictlyChristo/...34396197994500

[JimmyCarter]

Why do so many of the captured russian soldiers have clear tape over their eyes?

eg. https://twitter.com/StrictlyChristo/...34396197994500

They caught them all by stringing the tape across open doorways

[Falcon3]

Why do so many of the captured russian soldiers have clear tape over their eyes?

eg. https://twitter.com/StrictlyChristo/...34396197994500

Wow I will never get over how surreal it is to see this unfolding over social media. That video is something.

Mom: How did you end up there (in Ukraine)
POW: They told us to go and we went.

Doesn’t sound like a man who is stoked to be there.

[gravitylover]

Why do so many of the captured russian soldiers have clear tape over their eyes?

eg. https://twitter.com/StrictlyChristo/...34396197994500

Probably so they can be transported on their own two feet rather than blindfolded and useless but they can't identify faces or places.

[MTT]

The wind is blowing the other direction

I think the people and governments of Europe are now rooting for the Ukrainian people. And ready to fight with them. To some extent. I’m not hearing anything about Russia starting a nuclear war

Every hour ever increasing military support, logistics and more is openly discussed

Everyone understands that this was a line crossed. Your in a fight start fighting now

The statement from the NATO Secretary General. Russia has broken the peace and stability of the European continent

NATO. Has activated the ??? For the first time since it was formed

[MTT]

Sounds like Belarus ? Is also in the doghouse

[Thaleia]

Wow I will never get over how surreal it is to see this unfolding over social media. That video is something.

Mom: How did you end up there (in Ukraine)
POW: They told us to go and we went.

Doesn’t sound like a man who is stoked to be there.

There's countless videos that share the same theme - super young russians in captivity, all claiming they knew very little about the assault. Some saying they thought they were being deployed for a massive training mission and only finding out they're headed to war days ago.

Tons here https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/

Probably so they can be transported on their own two feet rather than blindfolded and useless but they can't identify faces or places.

Aww makes sense, thanks.

[Falcon3]

There's countless videos that share the same theme - super young russians in captivity, all claiming they knew very little about the assault. Some saying they thought they were being deployed for a massive training mission and only finding out they're headed to war days ago.

Tons here https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/



Aww makes sense, thanks.

Yeah I’ve been doing a lot of doom scrolling on night shift this week. Watching Ukrainian 19 year olds pop out of trenches and shoot MANPADS at helicopters then post it on TikTok. Crazy shit.

[MTT]

In a morbid way I really like this one
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/com..._medium=mweb3x

And it’s a reminder that Ukraine and Russia have been at war for the past 10 years

[Bunion 2020]

Yeah I’ve been doing a lot of doom scrolling on night shift this week. Watching Ukrainian 19 year olds pop out of trenches and shoot MANPADS at helicopters then post it on TikTok. Crazy shit.

Not exacly John Wayne and the Sands of Iwo Jima.

[happytimefunbox]

Trumpheartsputincock

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[oldnew_guy]

Crazy is that one of the top rated “news” hosts is a white nationalist Putin apologist.


This Reddit feed has lots of current info that typically gets confirmed:

https://www.reddit.com/live/18hnzysb1elcs

Big air raid and paratroopers dropping in Kyiv.