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    Quote Originally Posted by raisingarizona13 View Post
    So? Show me something before 2018 on his speech impediment?.
    He's had a stutter since he was a kid, it's well-documented. Do your own research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisingarizona13 View Post
    Thanks. and yeah, fuck Putin.

    A quick link would have learned me from the beginning. I looked but didn't see any from before 2019. Seriously though, when people assume I support the other team because I question their team is like a fucking trigger. I wanna be in a bar fight, like cowboys and shit.
    They assumed it because you came in here and threw around all of the propaganda language that gets used regarding Biden. So maybe think about the language choices you are making?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisingarizona13 View Post
    Thanks. and yeah, fuck Putin.

    A quick link would have learned me from the beginning. I looked but didn't see any from before 2019. Seriously though, when people assume I support the other team because I question their team is like a fucking trigger. I wanna be in a bar fight, like cowboys and shit.
    Go fight the people that hate our country and post crap like this!
    https://twitter.com/HouseGOP/status/...joe-biden-walk
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    Quote Originally Posted by One (+) Sentence View Post
    I thought his smiling seemed weird and inappropriate too…

    Personally, I’ve always felt that if there was a minimum age to be eligible to run for president in our country (35) there should also be a maximum age (I’d say 70.) I think there are outliers who would be great leaders over the age of 70, but the same could be said of some under 35.
    This is a serious problem that medical science has created over the past century, especially the past fifty years. The founders never imagined our leaders living into their eighties, pushing 90. Nobody lived that long back then, and even up to the early to mid twentieth century. FDR was only 61 when he died. It's not just Joe, it's a major portion of congress, which, unfortunately rewards seniority, so we have powerful committee heads that are barely alive. Feinstein still refuses to retire, and her brain is gone. Ask Schumer, he's gently tried to tell her that, but, she actually forgets the conversations, and he has to start all over again. He's old, too. They all are. The rest of the world laughs. Name me a viable candidate for President at least in their fifties, and no, not Harris, nobody likes her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisingarizona13 View Post
    Is there any information on that from before 2018?
    Since you’re too lazy to spend 10 seconds googling, in 2008 he already had a track record of publicly addressing this topic over the years. https://www.stutteringtreatment.org/galas/2008

    We’re also very proud of how Vice President Joe Biden spoke so openly about his own stuttering during the 2008 campaign and the positive attention he continues to bring to a largely misunderstood disorder.
    So you were mistaken, which is fine, but let’s move on. 99% of us agree that we have too many borderline senile old fucks dominating politics because it’s ‘their turn’. But as long as old fuck X Y or Z has the smarts to effectively manage issues, we can live with less than perfect public speaking skills.

    Dianne Feinstein’s own staff became worried about her mental acuity. That’s a different story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisingarizona13 View Post
    Thanks. and yeah, fuck Putin.

    A quick link would have learned me from the beginning. I looked but didn't see any from before 2019. Seriously though, when people assume I support the other team because I question their team is like a fucking trigger. I wanna be in a bar fight, like cowboys and shit.
    Serious question ... do you find yourself publicly critical of both side at a roughly an equal amount? In other words, how objective are you in practice?

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    So about 500 pages ago I asked you putzes if Putin would actually use nukes (if NATO or anyone else stood up to him militarily), and if he was suicidal. No one answered (which shocks me as I thought most of you were dental arms experts with side gigs at geo-political think tanks). Here's what some smarter folks than me think:
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/putin-...pons-1.6362890

    Oh yeah, FUCK PUTIN

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    Quote Originally Posted by ex-powderbroker View Post
    When I was young (and obviously naive) I can remember taking this wide plastic ruler to school every day with all of the presidents on it. It had facts about their birthplace, party, birth / death dates, and a portrait. It was at the end of Reagan's presidency, and there were two rows of 20. I remember looking at the pictures, memorizing facts about them, wondering where tf monticello was, how some people were elected twice, whatever. At that point as a kid I obviously saw America as an unequivocal good in the world, and that these presidents were to be admired - regardless of political affiliation they were playing for Team America. Obviously you live and learn that there is a bit more nuance, and some are better than others, but it held true through HW and Clinton, warts (genital? lol) and all - Team America.

    W through a wrench in my beliefs because he was dumb, full stop. Partisanship ruled the day since him, and things only got worse when we ended up with a narcissistic criminal in 2016.

    Now Biden is here, and yeah, he is old, but despite the gaffes he's had (which are career long), I was hoping for a return to some of the normalcy in the team thing I saw as a kid. Instead, I come here and see complaints about his old looks, the way he walks, and low info talking points, instead of anything substantive about policy. When Putin and Xi talk about America as a failing power, this is it. It's like half the country stores their brains in a tanning booth every night. Maybe instead of elections we should just replace the process with a season of The Bachelor?

    Here's a story that begins with him talking about his stutter from 2008, it did not take long to find:

    https://www.npr.org/templates/story/...oryId=93914952

    FUCK PUTIN
    Ok, fine. Let's talk policy. What has he done?

    And, please, do not say he cant do anything because of X. Please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    This is a serious problem that medical science has created over the past century, especially the past fifty years. The founders never imagined our leaders living into their eighties, pushing 90. Nobody lived that long back then, and even up to the early to mid twentieth century. FDR was only 61 when he died. It's not just Joe, it's a major portion of congress, which, unfortunately rewards seniority, so we have powerful committee heads that are barely alive. Feinstein still refuses to retire, and her brain is gone. Ask Schumer, he's gently tried to tell her that, but, she actually forgets the conversations, and he has to start all over again. He's old, too. They all are. The rest of the world laughs. Name me a viable candidate for President at least in their fifties, and no, not Harris, nobody likes her.
    Bunny calling modern medicine that enables one to live longer a "... serious problem" is so on point.

    Please don't change Bunny. I needed that laugh.

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    I think this is a time for some sacrifice, as stopping this psycho seems to be of paramount importance at this point to avoid a larger future conflict.
    While you are 100% correct the same was true for a pandemic and it took all of a week or so before everyone chose sides and it became a shitshow. America doesn't do sacrifice.
    I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    You're talking to a wall here. As long as he isn't Trump for a lot of people here, he's cool, although he is obviously in serious decline, is powerless domestically, because he can't get anything done for his base, blaming a West Virginian senator for all of that, and now has been embarrassed on the international stage. Truely an empire in decline.
    the tired (& intellectually dishonest) blame-someone-for-the-actions-of-his-opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    Ok, fine. Let's talk policy. What has he done?

    And, please, do not say he cant do anything because of X. Please.
    doubling down
    not surprised really

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    Quote Originally Posted by huckbucket View Post
    Bunny calling modern medicine that enables one to live longer a "... serious problem" is so on point.

    Please don't change Bunny. I needed that laugh.
    It isn't for me, but it is in a lot of ways, one of which I pointed out. We have senators and congresspeople legislating a modern economy that has tech they probably never use and have no clue how it works. Do you know anybody who's 80? I know a few. They nap a lot, and don't push it hard. Look around the world. The great powers and even lesser elect men and woman who are young enough to still remember why they walked into a room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ::: ::: View Post
    the tired (& intellectually dishonest) blame-someone-for-the-actions-of-his-opposition


    doubling down
    not surprised really
    No, dip shit. WHAT HAS HE DONE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    Ok, fine. Let's talk policy. What has he done?

    And, please, do not say he cant do anything because of X. Please, because reality is not a word I understand anymore.
    FIFY
    I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    No, dip shit. WHAT HAS HE DONE?
    he replaced trump
    he changed the international relationship of the US overnight
    he took the pandemic seriously
    he reinforced government institutions by replacing the political sockpuppets installed by the previous admin
    he removed us from afghanistan
    proposed useful legislation (despite resistant legislators): infrastructure, helping families not in the upper class, voting rights, etc
    dip shit

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    Ok, you. What has he done?

    Nobody wants to answer, because the truth is, nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garyfromterrace View Post
    So about 500 pages ago I asked you putzes if Putin would actually use nukes (if NATO or anyone else stood up to him militarily), and if he was suicidal. No one answered (which shocks me as I thought most of you were dental arms experts with side gigs at geo-political think tanks). Here's what some smarter folks than me think:
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/putin-...pons-1.6362890

    Oh yeah, FUCK PUTIN
    I think he’s crazy enough to be completely unpredictable, which is why letting him run wild in Georgia and Crimea was such terrible policy. You can’t turn back the clock and hindsight is 20/20 yada yada yada but now we have a really dangerous situation on our hands. There is some line somewhere that will force NATO to respond but we have to trust crazy Putin to figure out where that is and not cross it and then be not-too-crazy enough to not shoot a nuke at somebody. Short of Putin dropping dead from a stroke, our best bet at this point is that the Ukrainians fight hard enough to slow him down and the US and NATO wake up in time to improve our deterrent and ratchet up sanctions to a point that really hurts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    Ok, fine. Let's talk policy. What has he done?

    And, please, do not say he cant do anything because of X. Please.
    C'mon Benny, we both know he has 2 DINO's voting in lock step with an obstructionist GOP so ya, major policies he wanted have been shot down.
    The guy isn't working on stuff that I think would of been more helpful to people, but whats new? Regardless, there will never be a GOP candidate I would support with my time or money so it really doesn't matter in the long run to me. Until the masses wake the fuck up and start voting Dummycrat in mass, national politics will be fucked up in this country.
    And fuck that cunt Putin.
    Never in U.S. history has the public chosen leadership this malevolent. The moral clarity of their decision is crystalline, particularly knowing how Trump will regard his slim margin as a “mandate” to do his worst. We’ve learned something about America that we didn’t know, or perhaps didn’t believe, and it’ll forever color our individual judgments of who and what we are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    Ok, you. What has he done?

    Nobody wants to answer, because the truth is, nothing.
    you have a hat that says "willfully ignorant", don't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    Ok, you. What has he done?

    Nobody wants to answer, because the truth is, nothing.
    He mailed me 4 free Covid tests .

    Obviously, Biden worked hard from day 1 to repair the relationships with allies after the orange idiot mused about withdrawal from NATO, and observers seem to agree Biden did so in order to strengthen NATO response against Putin if hypothetically Putin did something like, dunno, invade Ukraine.

    Time will tell if this ends up counting as a significant accomplishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ::: ::: View Post
    he replaced trump
    he changed the international relationship of the US overnight
    he took the pandemic seriously
    he reinforced government institutions by replacing the political sockpuppets installed by the previous admin
    he removed us from afghanistan
    dip shit
    No. WE replaced Trump.

    I'll say he changed the international relationship of the US. I haven't worried about nuclear holocaust since duck and cover. Excellent job. Which also distracts from the main question. What has he done domestically?

    He took the pandemic seriously by handing out vaccines developed during Trump's presidency, and, hmmm, what else?

    He, what, re enforced government institutions by changing sock puppets to the blue brand. Oh, and, how's that Post Office thing? I'm loving mine.

    I will give you Afghanistan. I commended him for that, although, in the aftermath, he just wanted to free his addled mind for more war with Putin and Xi, and his absolutely cruel and almost genocidal theft of the only money the Afghan government had left after twenty years of our occupation, leaving god knows how many to die of starvation this winter, is classic Democratic neo liberal viciousness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisingarizona13 View Post
    Thanks. and yeah, fuck Putin.

    A quick link would have learned me from the beginning. I looked but didn't see any from before 2019. Seriously though, when people assume I support the other team because I question their team is like a fucking trigger. I wanna be in a bar fight, like cowboys and shit.
    There is only one side obsessed with “toughness”, and the love Putin for his “toughness”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    No. WE replaced Trump.

    I'll say he changed the international relationship of the US. I haven't worried about nuclear holocaust since duck and cover. Excellent job. Which also distracts from the main question. What has he done domestically?

    He took the pandemic seriously by handing out vaccines developed during Trump's presidency, and, hmmm, what else?

    He, what, re enforced government institutions by changing sock puppets to the blue brand. Oh, and, how's that Post Office thing? I'm loving mine.

    I will give you Afghanistan. I commended him for that, although, in the aftermath, he just wanted to free his addled mind for more war with Putin and Xi, and his absolutely cruel and almost genocidal theft of the only money the Afghan government had left after twenty years of our occupation, leaving god knows how many to die of starvation this winter, is classic Democratic neo liberal viciousness.
    he backed fauci & the cdc, who are going to announce reduced public health restrictions soon because conditions have improved
    unemployment has lowered...you'll dismiss it as "well, of course, jobs had bottomed out", but consider that a shitty prez could have kept everything tanking. Biden is a capable leader & understands the job. Is he amazing? No. Is he perfect? No. But he is competent and he is actually doing things

    child tax credit worked for many families

    do you need more?
    cuz it's not like my list is the definitive list

    i'm glad to see you are capable of acknowledging actions

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    Quote Originally Posted by garyfromterrace View Post
    So about 500 pages ago I asked you putzes if Putin would actually use nukes (if NATO or anyone else stood up to him militarily), and if he was suicidal. No one answered (which shocks me as I thought most of you were dental arms experts with side gigs at geo-political think tanks). Here's what some smarter folks than me think:
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/putin-...pons-1.6362890

    Oh yeah, FUCK PUTIN
    The guy is a psychopath with a ridiculously monster sized set of balls.
    dirtbag, not a dentist

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