To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

[AK47bp]

Let's post the fun part:

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Yes!!

Haha


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[subtle plague]

I had a job that required me to be vaccinated.

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You were in Miami vice?

[rod9301]

I really do not understand the mindset of liberals... Leftists tell you to shit and you squat.

That you believe this flare up of covid is due to freedom loving Americans and not a million filthy illegal aliens streaming across our non existent border is another example of why liberalism is a mental disease

The democrat party cums and you swallow.

First of all it's not a million, let's say 20k per day, even though this is way exaggerated.

So let's say 10 percent are positive.

That's 2k per day, which is a drop in the bucket compared to all the idiots that refuse vaccination.

So would be nice to use a little math sometimes.

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[rod9301]

how does one go about "proving this"? Far as I know there are ZERO databases that hold info on whos (name etc) had the vaccine. Are we going to say a paper card with a vax lot # and brand is affirmation that you are vaxxed? Its already well known that they are selling those cards all over the place now...

Ok so maybe 1 percent use fake cards, so?
It's the same with driving licenses, some are fake.

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[rod9301]

Acting Boston Mayor, Kim Janey not mincing words. Right on!



For those of you on the Left who say that voting ID puts undue burden on POC as they would be negatively impacted by such measures. How do you square that logic with thinking showing proof of vaccination isn't racist? When something like 70% of black people haven't received the vaccine, whether by choice or otherwise, wouldn't that keep them from participating in everyday society? Sounds like one heck of an undue burden on that segment of the population if you ask me. Seems.... kinda racist.

Please! Racist if they refuse to vaccinate?

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[rod9301]

So I got the J&J shot back in March. I went though this whole thing this year that I'm sure has left me immunocompromised, to some extent, for now at least, and my family has been leaning on me hard to get one dose of one of the other shots. Whats the consensus on this? My reading (but I haven't really been keepng up lately) indicates there's no point to this additional jab. What say yez?

There is, i would get a Moderna shot if i were you. No big deal

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[PNWbrit]

Far as I know there are ZERO databases that hold info on whos (name etc) had the vaccine.

WA state vaccine database has my covid shot and flu/tetanus shots going back for years.

I had to create an account to see them. I can order a replacement covid card or use an app to display their official app on my phone.

So no, not ZERO.

[old goat]

The QR is just a slop-tolerant optical thing, so you should be able to store it using screen-capture, or perhaps by taking a picture of it on your computer screen.

I spoke too soon. Just tried to get back into the site and now it doesn't recognize my PIN

Is the concern that there is little point to getting the next shot because medicines you are on will keep your body from having an immune response and therefore the vaccine will not be as effective? And if that's the case, then maybe your docs see little value in getting the vaccine?

Good point. I don't recall what drugs otzi takes and what condition he had/has or maybe he didn't say. Except for people with profound immunodeficiency like with some rare diseases or people whose white cells have been wiped out by chemo (the latter is either temporary or lethal--so temporary) immune deficiency is relative. It depends on the particular reason for the immunodeficiency, the particular disease one is worrying about catching, and the particular vaccine. It may be that immunodeficient people should have more vaccines, not less. Looks like the FDA is about to fast track approval of boosters for people with immunodeficiency.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...other-n1274674
https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...mpromised-fda/

Let's post the fun part:

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HIPAA and HIPPOS are not to be messed with. Especially hippos. HIPPA---mess away

[splat]

OMG! It's amazing how many of these "experts' can tell so many lies, but Mary Jane's uncle grandpa said Tucker Carlson would never talk about things that aren't true cause FOX is "fair and balanced."

Tracking Viral Misinformation
Published Sept. 15, 2020
Updated Aug. 6, 2021, 6:13 p.m. ET
Times reporters will chronicle and debunk false and misleading information that is going viral online.


Aug. 6, 2021, 5:44 p.m. ET1 hour ago
1 hour ago
By Linda Qiu


As coronavirus cases and hospitalizations surge across the country, wrought by the spread of the Delta variant, some conservatives have pinned the blame on migrants crossing the southern border — without providing any evidence.

Faced with rapidly rising cases in their states and criticized by President Biden for their opposition to mask mandates, the governors of Florida and Texas have pointed to the administration’s border policies as a primary cause of the new cases. That sentiment has also echoed on social media, among members of Congress and among the unvaccinated.

“He’s imported more virus from around the world by having a wide open southern border,” Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida said of Mr. Biden on Wednesday. “Whatever variants are across the world, they’re coming through that southern border.”

Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas made a similar claim on Fox News on Monday: “The Biden administration is allowing people to come across the southern border, many of whom have Covid, most of whom are not really being checked for Covid.”

Officials have said that positive test results among migrants have increased in recent weeks. A spokesman for Hidalgo County in Texas, which is in the Rio Grande Valley, where many migrants cross the border, said that the positivity rate for migrants was about 16 percent this week, as of Thursday.

But public health experts said there was no evidence that migrants were driving the surge of coronavirus. The positivity rate for residents of Hidalgo County — excluding migrants — was 17.59 percent this week.

While Texas is experiencing many more cases than a couple of months ago, many of the major outbreaks are occurring in states — such as Missouri and Arkansas — that do not border Mexico, said Dr. Jaquelin P. Dudley, associate director of the LaMontagne Center for Infectious Disease and a professor of molecular biosciences at the University of Texas at Austin.

Max Hadler, the Covid-19 senior policy expert at Physicians for Human Rights, a nonprofit advocacy group, said positive rates were increasing in every state in the country.

“It’s not a border issue or a migrant issue, it’s a national issue. And it’s a particularly major issue in states with lower vaccination rates,” Mr. Hadler said. “That’s the clearest and most important correlation, and it has nothing to do with migrants but rather with rates of vaccination among people living in those states.”

A recent report from the Kaiser Family Foundation found that those not fully vaccinated accounted for between 94 percent and 99.8 percent of reported coronavirus cases in the 23 states and Washington, D.C., that collect breakthrough case data.

There is not evidence that any of four variants of concern tracked by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention initially entered through the southern border. The four variants of concern, which are those that are more transmittable or cause more severe cases, are called Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Delta.

Dr. Benjamin Pinsky, the director of the Clinical Virology Laboratory for Stanford Health Care, which tracks new variants, said the lab’s findings did not support Mr. DeSantis’s assertion that variants were “coming through” the southern border.

The first identified cases of the Alpha and Beta variants in the United States were patients in Colorado and South Carolina with no travel history, according to the C.D.C. The first identified case of the Gamma variant was a patient in Minnesota, who had traveled to Brazil.

[Jacques Strap]

There's no way this hasn't been posted before, but just in case:
https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/cov...om-the-states/

[Ted Striker]

Let's post the fun part:

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But house hippos are real, right?

[PB]

save the shots for the people that need them you selfish fuck.

Official booster recommendatons come out soon from the CDC. Elderly will go first. The WHO already stated that there should be no boosters in first world countries until the abysmal global vaccine rollout gets more shots in more arms.

Comprehension much, little penis?

Insider knowledge sez people over 65 .... AND IMMUNOCOMPROMISED .... will be first in line when officially sanctioned. And getting a booster shot does not steal the vaccine from any one, as we've been throwing away hundreds of expired doses every day. Yes, the third world is short on vaccines, but they will never be relying on the mRNA vaccines.

[AK47bp]

Heading to Maui tomorrow.

Had to register in the state of Hawaii safe travel site, upload vaccine information and card. Register my flight details.

Then had to have my 6yr old Covid tested 72 hrs prior to departure from only a handful of state of Hawaii approved testing sites. Upload the negative Covid tests to the state site.

Had to download a contact tracing app on my phone that tracks my locations.

Then 24hr prior to departure had to answer a health questionnaire and be sent a QR code with a ticking expiration timer.

Will have to show the physical documents at the gate, vaccine cards and test results.

When we land in Hawaii our temperatures are taken and my daughter has to take a rapid Covid test at the airport.


Then off to the beach mon…..easy peasy holy shit.


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[KQ]

Heading to Maui tomorrow.

Had to register in the state of Hawaii safe travel site, upload vaccine information and card. Register my flight details.

Then had to have my 6yr old Covid tested 72 hrs prior to departure from only a handful of state of Hawaii approved testing sites. Upload the negative Covid tests to the state site.

Had to download a contact tracing app on my phone that tracks my locations.

Then 24hr prior to departure had to answer a health questionnaire and be sent a QR code with a ticking expiration timer.

Will have to show the physical documents at the gate, vaccine cards and test results.

When we land in Hawaii our temperatures are taken and my daughter has to take a rapid Covid test at the airport.


Then off to the beach mon…..easy peasy holy shit.


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All I've got to say is there better be a Pina Colada with a Myer's Dark Rum floater waiting for you at the beach cabana.

[AK47bp]

All I've got to say is there better be a Pina Colada with a Myer's Dark Rum floater waiting for you at the beach cabana.

Oh yes. This vacation was planned for april 2020 originally. Lots of drinks.


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[yeahman]

Heading to Maui tomorrow.

Had to register in the state of Hawaii safe travel site, upload vaccine information and card. Register my flight details.

Then had to have my 6yr old Covid tested 72 hrs prior to departure from only a handful of state of Hawaii approved testing sites. Upload the negative Covid tests to the state site.

Had to download a contact tracing app on my phone that tracks my locations.

Then 24hr prior to departure had to answer a health questionnaire and be sent a QR code with a ticking expiration timer.

Will have to show the physical documents at the gate, vaccine cards and test results.

When we land in Hawaii our temperatures are taken and my daughter has to take a rapid Covid test at the airport.


Then off to the beach mon…..easy peasy holy shit.


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Interesting. We're going there in December. My kids are over 12 and vaccinated so it sounds like we will not be required to take any covid rapid tests. Hawaii is lucky--being islands it is possible for them to keep out the dumbfucks.

[old goat]

Turns out saving the California Vaccination Record link in the text message the state sends doesn't work because the link expires. Screenshot of the QR code seems to work. Never did that on a phone. Pretty good for an old man. Give me a cupcake. We'll see if it really works next time I try to get into a bar. (Sacramento is considering requiring proof of shot.) Pressing "Save to phone" still doesn't work, and my android and google play versions are recent enough.

[old goat]

Heading to Maui tomorrow.

Had to register in the state of Hawaii safe travel site, upload vaccine information and card. Register my flight details.

Then had to have my 6yr old Covid tested 72 hrs prior to departure from only a handful of state of Hawaii approved testing sites. Upload the negative Covid tests to the state site.

Had to download a contact tracing app on my phone that tracks my locations.

Then 24hr prior to departure had to answer a health questionnaire and be sent a QR code with a ticking expiration timer.

Will have to show the physical documents at the gate, vaccine cards and test results.

When we land in Hawaii our temperatures are taken and my daughter has to take a rapid Covid test at the airport.


Then off to the beach mon…..easy peasy holy shit.


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I think you screwed up when you booked your trip. Hope you have a good time in North Korea

[AK47bp]

I think you screwed up when you booked your trip. Hope you have a good time in North Korea

My government appointed “tour guide” begs to differ.


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[bodywhomper]

Maui had its biggest single day # of recorded new cases this week. Stay safe

[subtle plague]

I think you screwed up when you booked your trip. Hope you have a good time in North Korea

Vee vould gladly velcome the comrades of Hawaii into the EU.

[abraham]

If your own doctor won't give you a straight answer Dr. Google will--infect he will give you as many different straight answers as you want.

Awesome typo.

I’m pretty sure Bill Gates can assist.

This was all a plan to sell more servers?

Had to download a contact tracing app on my phone that tracks my locations.

They can't just use the 5g chip in your arm?
That actually bothers me a bit, I might be tempted to take the trip without a phone. Wonder if they'd let you in without one?

[AK47bp]

Awesome typo.



This was all a plan to sell more servers?




They can't just use the 5g chip in your arm?
That actually bothers me a bit, I might be tempted to take the trip without a phone. Wonder if they'd let you in without one?

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[ntblanks]

interested in your reports. I'm due to fly in on the 24th.

[LongShortLong]

Somebody was asking about vaccination after natural infection. Dr. Griffin discusses that in tonight's TWiV. Skip ahead to about 30:00. Short story is he sees some patients being reinfected about 6 months out, and recommends getting the vaccine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKoWKhO8UXg