ON3P SKIS Discussion

[PowTron]

in fluffy cold pow, the cease and desist effing rules.

Tis all

I cannot echo this statement enough.

[MHSP1497]

I cannot echo this statement enough.

Thirded... mine were magic on Sunday.

[kid-kapow]

I'm sure most of you have seen these already, but if not - ON3P's flower game is pretty damned sensational as of late. Now featuring flamingos too

[PeachesNCream]

I also must admit to miss Jonnie Merrill being on ON3Ps. He is such a strong skier and a joy to watch, though Line will probably treat him well too.

Same. Oddly he was one of the guys that never clicked with BGs, said the asym threw him off. He spent most of his time on the Jeffery and Woodsman

[goolick]

N + 1. Don't replace the BGs just add the J116! I'd really like to give them a try too.

I had an epic day on my kartel 116s yesterday at Mt Baker, with ~6" of new snow. So great for stomping landings, popping off everything, and throwing grabs/shifties/spins.

[eSock]

I'm sure most of you have seen these already, but if not - ON3P's flower game is pretty damned sensational as of late. Now featuring flamingos too

Would love to throw one of these designs on a Mera or Jessie in the 150s range for customs.

[PowTron]

Same. Oddly he was one of the guys that never clicked with BGs, said the asym threw him off. He spent most of his time on the Jeffery and Woodsman

To clarify a bit, I know Jonnie actually really enjoyed the BG and Wrens, but the mount position on the other skis (Jeffrey and Woodsman) clicked better with his style. It wasn't an Asym vs Non-Asym thing to my knowledge from any conversations I had, or have had with him.

Jonnie is an excellent rider, and an even better human. Best of luck to him at LINE, and miss seeing him rip ON3P already.

[PeachesNCream]

To clarify a bit, I know Jonnie actually really enjoyed the BG and Wrens, but the mount position on the other skis (Jeffrey and Woodsman) clicked better with his style. It wasn't an Asym vs Non-Asym thing to my knowledge from any conversations I had, or have had with him.

Jonnie is an excellent rider, and an even better human. Best of luck to him at LINE, and miss seeing him rip ON3P already.

From my messages with him he said "I just didn’t love the asymmetrical aspect. Some people love it, I enjoyed them for sure. Just not my favorite ski".

Same though, that guy can fly off some cliffs.

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[RudyGarmisch]

These skis rule.

[PowTron]

From my messages with him he said "I just didn’t love the asymmetrical aspect. Some people love it, I enjoyed them for sure. Just not my favorite ski".

Same though, that guy can fly off some cliffs.

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Gotcha. Different skis for different stroked stoke folks.

[ASmileyFace]

That Hawaiian Alpine topsheet is amazing. I'd actually consider that over cat camo for my BGTours I'm buying when I can justify it.

[SupreChicken]

That Hawaiian Alpine topsheet is amazing. I'd actually consider that over cat camo for my BGTours I'm buying when I can justify it.

Same same.

When can I order?

[margotron]

am i the only one that thinks Karl's skiing has declined since switching away from ON3P? maybe i just liked his earlier edits better

[kid-kapow]

am i the only one that thinks Karl's skiing has declined since switching away from ON3P? maybe i just liked his earlier edits better

I am not sure if "declined" is the adjective I would use, rather "different" - though I kinda think that they change in format (big $ productions) is the real change, not his skiing as such. He skis exceedingly well still imho, .
https://www.tetongravity.com/video/ski/the-athlete-edits-karl-fostvedt

His Huck Yeah segment starts at the ish 31min mark. I think that what I would describe as his minigolf butterfest seems so effortless that I do not really appreciate just how much controll and skill that it requires. Then again perhaps it (swerve skiing on a bigger scale) doesn't look as impressive as other segments - I dunno.

[poleplant]

am i the only one that thinks Karl's skiing has declined since switching away from ON3P? maybe i just liked his earlier edits better

What?? The dude could charge harder switch on soul 7’s then most people ever could on wrens/billygoats. He absolutely shredded on kartels, he shreds on the reckoners and will shred on any ski he’s on. Edit styles are always changing (can’t keep doing the same edit over and over) but his skiing is definitely not declining.


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[N1CK.]

these look amazing ...

[lucknau]

am i the only one that thinks Karl's skiing has declined since switching away from ON3P? maybe i just liked his earlier edits better

I was just thinking they didn’t give him enough props in that last MSP movie. Sam Kuch was marveling that the guy can do things on skis he’s never seen anyone do. I think he’s grown into a force of nature over the past couple of years. Maybe he’s incognito making some magnum opus of film. Or living in that smelly snowmobile trailer like a dirtbag, and not getting in front of a camera as much.

[lrn2swim]

Just picked up a pair of minty '19 189 Wren 108s with one previous mount. Damn, they're beauties. Never been on any ON3P skis before, pretty excited to give them a try considering all the ranting and raving that goes on around here.

My first impression though, holy hell these things are monsters! I know there's a ton of rocker and little camber but damn they're stiff and about 1 to 2 inches longer than my other similarly sized skis. I seem to get along no problem with my fairly stiff OG Spurs but damn these (hand flex at least) are on a different level.

I'm 6'0 190 or so and ride mostly tight terrain around Alp, Hyak, etc. I'm am crazy in thinking these might be too much for a DD around here? My style seems to be that I like to pivot and slash in tight spots, and then point it until the next slash. Not worried about them in more open terrain.

If yes, I'm crazy, good and I'll just mount them up and attempt to not kill myself on a tree branch or maybe save them for riding bigger mountains. If no, I'm not crazy, anyone want to trade for either a similar condition 184 Wren or maybe a 187 Woodsmen? Would those make more sense?

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[Tailwind]

I’m on the wren 114, which is a little less nimble, as my daily driver. I live in Colorado and spend a decent chunk of time skiing moguls.

They do ‘fine’ in tight terrain. Are there better skis? Yes absolutely but the tradeoffs have worked for me. I had some Moment Wildcats right before these which felt really quick in comparison but the lack of stability bothered me.

I lived in Seattle for a lot of years so I know the terrain you’re referencing a little. Based on what you’re saying, if you hadn’t bought them I might say go with the Woodsman. If you care about nimble, that shape suits people better.

Now that you have them you could always try them and see what you think. Dropping down to the 184cm wren wouldn’t be my thought. Swap shapes or stay with what you have.

Just picked up a pair of minty '19 189 Wren 108s with one previous mount. Damn, they're beauties. Never been on any ON3P skis before, pretty excited to give them a try considering all the ranting and raving that goes on around here.

My first impression though, holy hell these things are monsters! I know there's a ton of rocker and little camber but damn they're stiff and about 1 to 2 inches longer than my other similarly sized skis. I seem to get along no problem with my fairly stiff OG Spurs but damn these (hand flex at least) are on a different level.

I'm 6'0 190 or so and ride mostly tight terrain around Alp, Hyak, etc. I'm am crazy in thinking these might be too much for a DD around here? My style seems to be that I like to pivot and slash in tight spots, and then point it until the next slash. Not worried about them in more open terrain.

If yes, I'm crazy, good and I'll just mount them up and attempt to not kill myself on a tree branch or maybe save them for riding bigger mountains. If no, I'm not crazy, anyone want to trade for either a similar condition 184 Wren or maybe a 187 Woodsmen? Would those make more sense?

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[margotron]

they are monsters. they of course pivot, they are an ON3P with plenty rocker, but you're not describing a wren when you say "pivot and slash in tight spots, and then point it until the next slash." That's a woodsman or even a jeffrey

[margotron]

I was just thinking they didn’t give him enough props in that last MSP movie. Sam Kuch was marveling that the guy can do things on skis he’s never seen anyone do. I think he’s grown into a force of nature over the past couple of years. Maybe he’s incognito making some magnum opus of film. Or living in that smelly snowmobile trailer like a dirtbag, and not getting in front of a camera as much.

Maybe that is it. I agree the MSP film didn't showcase his goods nearly enough. I was disappointed. Sam Kuch's style goes great on the big screen, huge vertical drops with tricks, but damn if I didn't want more Karl

[beeeom]

Just picked up a pair of minty '19 189 Wren 108s with one previous mount. Damn, they're beauties. Never been on any ON3P skis before, pretty excited to give them a try considering all the ranting and raving that goes on around here.

My first impression though, holy hell these things are monsters! I know there's a ton of rocker and little camber but damn they're stiff and about 1 to 2 inches longer than my other similarly sized skis. I seem to get along no problem with my fairly stiff OG Spurs but damn these (hand flex at least) are on a different level.

I'm 6'0 190 or so and ride mostly tight terrain around Alp, Hyak, etc. I'm am crazy in thinking these might be too much for a DD around here? My style seems to be that I like to pivot and slash in tight spots, and then point it until the next slash. Not worried about them in more open terrain.

If yes, I'm crazy, good and I'll just mount them up and attempt to not kill myself on a tree branch or maybe save them for riding bigger mountains. If no, I'm not crazy, anyone want to trade for either a similar condition 184 Wren or maybe a 187 Woodsmen? Would those make more sense?

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Keep em and get a Billy Goat

[Quandary]

Fuckin' A at least now I know it wasn't me. Bought my BGs right before shut down last year. Skied them twice before everything closed. First day after a big dump, fantastic best powder skis I ever skied. Second time skiing groomers until they blasted the top and could get to the soft snow. Horrible couldn't ski them at all, figured Asym and RES. Quick trip in switch skis, had a great day.

Didn't ski them again until today, no big snows. Snowed some last night and all day today, figured I'd go out and learn to ski them in something other than a foot or more. First few runs same thing no matter how I tried to ski them. Skis were grabby, each had a mind of its own. Detuned outside edge, maybe that will do it, nope same thing. Ok detune inside edge and more on outside edge, nope same thing. No matter what I tried or how I skied 'em same thing grabby both skis want to go the way they want to go.

Figured this has got to be something other than me. Went in put them on the bench got out my trusty true bar. WTF do you know. Both skis, both edges, tip to tail anywhere from a bit to a lot edge high. No wonder I couldn't ski them, Mikaela couldn't ski them like this. In the deep where base flatness doesn't really matter all that much great, every where else not so good.

Needless to say the BGs are now off for a visit to the Montana CNC tuning machine for a base restructure. Now I know why a number of you keep saying in essence you're crazy the BG skis fine everywhere. Maybe the do, I'll find out after I get them back.

[lrn2swim]

I’m on the wren 114, which is a little less nimble, as my daily driver. I live in Colorado and spend a decent chunk of time skiing moguls.

They do ‘fine’ in tight terrain. Are there better skis? Yes absolutely but the tradeoffs have worked for me. I had some Moment Wildcats right before these which felt really quick in comparison but the lack of stability bothered me.

I lived in Seattle for a lot of years so I know the terrain you’re referencing a little. Based on what you’re saying, if you hadn’t bought them I might say go with the Woodsman. If you care about nimble, that shape suits people better.

Now that you have them you could always try them and see what you think. Dropping down to the 184cm wren wouldn’t be my thought. Swap shapes or stay with what you have.

Gotcha, thanks for the response. Think I'll keep em unless someone offers to possibly trade for a minty 187 Woodsman and lives in the Seattle area.

Also, fun note, just checked and the serial number on this pair is 006. That mean 6th pair made for this model I'm assuming?? How many per year do they usually make anywhoo?

Last thing, read through nearly this entire thread, consensus is mount at recommended or as close to as possible eh? Any dissenters to that? Mount point is the dimple on sidewall?

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[dub2]

First day out on my new BGs today, 5 inches overnight, then snow and wind all day. Absolutely loved them. So intuitive, and now I know what others mean when they say you can make any shape turn in 3d snow at any time. Really felt like I could do whatever I wanted. Incredibly easy to pivot for a ski that is so stable. As things got chopped up a little bit towards the end of the day, they kept the fun going and weren't bothered by it in the least.

Someone a few pages ago asked me to compare them to the GPOs I recently sold. The GPOs definitely feel to me like a wider all mountain ski. You can certainly pivot them and make a variety of turn shapes, but for my skiing style I feel like the BGs are more intuitive and require less thought to make those same turn shapes. BGs are also surfier, and felt more composed in chop. Neither are hooky at all. GPOs definitely have an edge in firm snow and can carve a great turn, which is again why they feel like a wider all mountain ski that can certainly hold their own in 3d snow. If I was choosing for a one ski quiver, I'd go GPO. But I currently have a firm snow ski (Wren 96), so I couldn't be happier with the BGs as my soft snow ski.