To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

[DeathRaven]

On the other hand, she doesn't need it right now and others do so morally it's wrong. But......she is behind all the frontline hospital workers, nursing homes, EMT, etc so who is she stealing from? There isn't an elderly or immune compromised person that is going to the back of the line because of her, it's not that scarce.

I'm glad to see at least one person here recognizes their position of privilege and is at least cognizant of the moral issues. That's a great start.

[Boissal]

Ms Boissal is getting her second dose tomorrow. The wifi reception has greatly improved at the house but we also got a new router so the data is a bit murky...
We just found out that her sister and her husband, both rabid COVID deniers and all-around residents of kook town, tested positive today. He is symptomatic, she's not. Ms Boissal has been at war with them since this started and they've gone out of their way to be giant shitheads: went to Mexico in Nov, got sick there, refused to get tested, immediately went to see her parents when they got back then flew to his parents for Thxgiving, refused to skip Xmas dinner, dick-nosed their way through it, the works. At least now that they're infected they have a good reason to decline the vaccine for a while.

[muted]

I'm glad to see at least one person here recognizes their position of privilege and is at least cognizant of the moral issues. That's a great start.

You are a fucking middle aged man sitting in front of a computer being a troll on some obscure ski board. Do you ever questions how you became into this position of privilege of being a fucking loser in life?

[Ted Striker]

There are no minorities or people of color with Irish or Scottish surnames?

It's unpossible



Now give me some quarters for the jukebox...

[The AD]

He is symptomatic, she's not.

This is the kind of situation where you're hoping he has to suffer a bit because you know if they both recover quickly it will just embolden them more. You know, it hardly affected them, what's the big deal?

[pureantigravity]

I love how people assume healthcare workers are rational critical thinkers that trust science. A lot of them go into these careers just because it’s good money and they can pass the coursework. I know many at my hospital who aren’t going to get the vaccine because they don’t trust the science, it’s just the flu, I’m young, I’m going to wait and see, etc., etc. It’s baffling.


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OK - Just looked at the survey methodology and cross-tabs here https://www.kff.org/report-section/k...20-cross-tabs/

Health Care Workers were evenly split on the question of vaccination as 'personal choice' vs 'everyone's responsibility' too.

[Boissal]

This is the kind of situation where you're hoping he has to suffer a bit because you know if they both recover quickly it will just embolden them more. You know, it hardly affected them, what's the big deal?

That's been his argument all along. All his friends got it and nobody died, what's the big deal?? They were genuinely surprised when Ms Boissal tore into them for hanging out with the parents after they got back from Mexico. They flat out refuse to believe people > 65 with a bunch of other health issues are at increased risk.

[DJSapp]

Get the vaccination. Our current problem is distribution, not vaccine shortages. DJSapp's article from yesterday is a good example of how we should go about vaccinating people: vaccinate by priority first but don't hold any in reserve. If there's vaccine sitting on a shelf at the end of the day then pull people off the street and vaccinate them too. Vaccinate the UPS driver, the FedEx driver, the pizza delivery guy, and whoever happens to be walking by. Worry less about who gets it, just vaccinate more people.

Yup. It angers me to no end that CA is currently sitting on 1.4 million doses because we can't figure out who should go first. Meanwhile, the fire burns brighter every day. If she can get it, get it because it will just create more govt confusion if she doesn't.

My 0.02 is that no vaccine should be left on the shelf at close of business every day until we get everyone. There should be a standby line that opens at 1pm for anyone to get the leftovers from the days work.

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[Bunion 2020]

My 0.02 is that no vaccine should be left on the shelf at close of business every day until we get everyone. There should be a standby line that opens at 1pm for anyone to get the leftovers from the days work.

Love it!

I understand, but that's exactly the latent racism I am pointing out. blah blah blah

Your transparent attempt at using Steep logic has outed you. Take a lap you fucking beater.

[bennymac]

Sure, it's possible, but I've also seen a picture of you and your weak attempt at a beard.



Because they've shared the information here. prsboogie is a private school kid from Mass, KQ an affluent white woman in Washington, and riser3 is your average VT dirtbag. What else do you want to know?

You perving on photos of me is kinda creepy. To be clear I have zero interest in trading pics with you. Just to shut that idea down right off the bat.

Again though I wanted to know how you knew everyone’s skin color and location. Knowing some details about a few people on here isn’t at all special or impressive (most of us can post facts about a few other posters) nor does it do anything but continue to avoid answering the question.

Carry on though - we can tell you feel special about this high horse you are on. Who am I to deprive you of that?

[Millsie1]

Mrs Millsie is getting her second vaccine today. She works in the covid unit of her hospital and has cancer. At least having the shot will make my anxiety a bit less.

[GoldMember]

I understand, but that's exactly the latent racism I am pointing out. To her, the health of her elderly mother who lives in a facility with health care practitioners, medicine & oxygen on site is more valuable than the lives of people of Africa who live an areas where there aren't even roads to access the meager heath care resources that may exist there. Who needs the vaccine more?

I understand that some might be daunted by the uphill battle of fighting racism on a message board devoted to wealthy white pursuits but that is exactly why it is so important to take a stand and refuse to accept the racist views espoused here.

No, I think it's a lot more about it being her MOTHER, not that she's white or privileged or happened to be born in a first-world country. It's her mother, she knows her, she loves her, and she's relieved and happy that her mother is being cared for. Latent racism? Sure, and I'm sure that no person of color would prefer the people in Africa would get vaccinated over members of their own family? Blaming everything on racism is bullshit. Sometimes, knowing and loving your mother is a more immediate emotion. Your position fails at so many levels that it really wasn't worth responding to but your blind 'wokeness' emboldened me.

[John_B]

Dude we get that DR is a moron. That's why many people have him on ignore. Feel free to continue to point out how he is a raging dumbass but please quit quoting him.

[GoldMember]

^^ Yeah, I get it. That's why I resisted but sometimes, I just gotta say what I gotta say. Anyway, I'm done with it.

[RiderX]

Received the second dose of the vaccine (Pfizer) yesterday. From what I have read about 50% have fever, myalgia, arthralgia, headache after the second dose. I lucked out, other than a slightly sore arm, I am asymptomatic following the injection.

[riser4]

Average VT dirtbag checking in.

[riser4]

Wife gets one as she is a therapist we just found out, it's a surprise. Currently she is not doing any in-person sessions, so she is debating to not get one right now.

Due to the shitty rollout of this vaccine, I'm inclined for her to be selfish and get the fucker. It's not illegal for one thing, it was offered to her, and the future is not guaranteed in this chaos so let's add some stability to this household.

On the other hand, she doesn't need it right now and others do so morally it's wrong. But......she is behind all the frontline hospital workers, nursing homes, EMT, etc so who is she stealing from? There isn't an elderly or immune compromised person that is going to the back of the line because of her, it's not that scarce.

WWMD?

As I posted earlier, my wife, an LCMHC (therapist), had a similar dilemma. However she has a few clients that she sees in person for legit reasons. She took the vaccine when it was offered (the state called her). Our cell reception has not improved, so I question if the vaccine is working.

[GoldMember]

^^ Placebo

[XXX-er]

Looking at Life expectancey by country the USA's numbers are not great but they aren't 3rd world yet, I wonder if covid will change those stats to the 3rd world ?

deaths from fentynal OD's were enough to drop Canada 3 places

[LeeLau]

DeathRaven. Have you given any thought to killing yourself and making the world a better place? Webcast it too just to add some positive karma.

[PB]

I'd donate bazillions to the fund for vaccinating all the anti-vaxers and proud boys with a 12 gauge rusty drug addict's bent needle if he does it.

[skinny_kid]

Second dose of Pfizer yesterday. Woke up this morning with chills and minor headache. Hope that’s the extent of the reaction.

Add a mild fever and myalgia to the list. Still happy I received it so quickly.

[glademaster]

Given that I spend a substantial portion of my work week being coughed on by anti-maskers, I'm pretty excited that I should be able to get a vax in the next few weeks.

[skinny_kid]

Given that I spend a substantial portion of my work week being coughed on by anti-maskers, I'm pretty excited that I should be able to get a vax in the next few weeks.

Hope it goes smoothly for you!

[Yonder_River]

Hope it goes smoothly for you!

Wife is 3 days past her second Pfizer dose with no side effects. She almost wanted some to confirm that it was working correctly and generating a response. Maybe she'll donate some blood to get an antibody test later to confirm.