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    Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

    Quote Originally Posted by KenJongIll View Post
    The only number that really matters are hospital admissions. He’s a dumbass for not wearing a mask.

    Did Brianna grill her CNN coworker on violating quarantine and his wife’s batshit crazy Covid Cures? I’m guessing not.
    Yeah it’d be best if all citizens, whether CNN staff or not, didn’t violate quarantines or be married to kooks.



    By any metric out there Florida is shitting the bed. Cases, admissions to hospital, ICU capacity, deaths.

    A lot of those golden girls and guys who survive this are gonna have fucked up lungs, kidneys, etc. The health care costs are gonna pile up. No vaccine will reverse the damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glademaster View Post
    If it's any consolation I indulged and had a third beer this evening. I feel guilty.
    Quote Originally Posted by splat View Post
    Check out VICE TVs coronavirus reports. Looks like Trump is taking his cues on controlling data from Cambodia and Brazil, two countries with some seriously fucked up leaders.

    KQ, you been slappin' the shit out of yourself? Easy, gurl...
    Quote Originally Posted by abraham View Post
    Cheers, I'm on my second. Probably should find a glass.

    I did 6 weeks without booze or coffee starting in April/May sometime. Then eased back into it. I have to buy more beer or the 12% bombers in the basement start to look too tempting. And that's no good for solo drinkingAttachment 334774
    I don't mean to judge or make anyone feel bad about their habits though I do hope you take care of yourself I’m just saying where I'm at. I have to say even taking the gummies or tinctures to help me through this time of turmoil is extraordinary. I have NEVER been a person who leaned on any sort of aid to get me through tough times. It just never appealed to me and dealing with adversity is something I've always been able to rely on myself to do but this, this is something else and frankly I just don't know any more between Trump, racial violence and the pandemic I've finally reached my tipping point and it’s all I can do to keep calm and carry on. I know we will get through this I just wish it was sooner rather than later. Just today I was wishing WA would send out their presidential ballots early so I could at least check that box. I feel like I’m floating in limbo or maybe this is the purgatory that the priests always warned me about.


    Quote Originally Posted by splat View Post

    KQ, you been slappin' the shit out of yourself? Easy, gurl...
    No silly.... I haven't gone that far 'round the bend! It's just that I hear her voice in my head and visual the scene then I move on to doing something else.
    When you see something that is not right, not just, not fair, you have a moral obligation to say something. To do something." Rep. John Lewis


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    Quote Originally Posted by splat View Post
    Check out VICE TVs coronavirus reports. Looks like Trump is taking his cues on controlling data from Cambodia and Brazil, two countries with some seriously fucked up leaders.

    KQ, you been slappin' the shit out of yourself? Easy, gurl...
    I see hydraulic turtles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KQ View Post
    I'm so right there with you. Stick a fork in me, I'm done. I'm done with our federal government. I'm done with dumbshit assholes who think this is all a big liberal lie. I'm done with with this bottle of Pinot and need to open another (my alcohol consumption has gone up noteable).
    I see hydraulic turtles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The SnowShow View Post
    Worldometer has us at almost 72k new cases for today and 997 deaths. Texass at 12k and Floridumb at 10k, Cali at almost 10k. JFC.
    I see hydraulic turtles.

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    Inslee has stood by his guns fighting for Washington to quell the pandemic and IMO has handled it well. He consulted experts, made a plan, has modified it when necessary and kept us informed of our progress in this fight. I'm thankful for all his done regardless of popular opinion. It's not an easy job and he has risen to the occassion putting his state first above his politcal asperations.


    Inslee extends pause for reopening

    WAOLYMPIA – Washington Gov. Jay Inslee is extending the pause on reopenings to July 28 because of increasing COVID-19 cases.

    “This pandemic is still raging in the state of Washington,” he said.

    Inslee said the number of people in their 20s getting the disease is increasing and that is a major concern. He added young people need to take steps to reduce the disease because it spreads to older and more vulnerable people.

    He said face covering compliance is rising and that will help slow the spread of the virus.

    Inslee cited Yakima County, which had a major increase in cases, as proof that masks work.

    “Yakima County case numbers are actually declining since this masking effort started,” he said.

    With positive cases, along with hospitalization rates on the rise, Inslee said more restrictions may be necessary to bring the case counts down.
    When you see something that is not right, not just, not fair, you have a moral obligation to say something. To do something." Rep. John Lewis


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    Masks are the only weapon we have and he's failed to deploy a mandatory mask order. Fail. Cuomo for getting it right-est. 70% of the people think were fkt.

    I will say that Cuomo didn't have to factor in the number of armed citizens to confront as Inslee would have. Cuomo didn't have the local lawmen telling him that they wouldn't follow the law. A little apples to crab apples.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wooley12 View Post
    Masks are the only weapon we have and he's failed to deploy a mandatory mask order. Fail. Cuomo for getting it right-est. 70% of the people think were fkt.

    I will say that Cuomo didn't have to factor in the number of armed citizens to confront as Inslee would have. Cuomo didn't have the local lawmen telling him that they wouldn't follow the law. A little apples to crab apples.
    What? We have a mandatory mask order. You mean earlier? Might have tip-toed a bit but you can't come on too strong esp. with eastern washingtonians and yanno, this is all uncharted territory. I dunno... when I look around at other states I still think he comes out at or near the top.

    Face Masks or Cloth Face Covering

    Face coverings are required statewide in all public spaces because they are effective in slowing the spread of COVID-19, especially when combined with 6 feet of physical distance. ... A governor's order directing businesses to require and enforce the use of face coverings by all customers or visitors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bennymac View Post
    Yeah it’d be best if all citizens, whether CNN staff or not, didn’t violate quarantines or be married to kooks.



    By any metric out there Florida is shitting the bed. Cases, admissions to hospital, ICU capacity, deaths.

    A lot of those golden girls and guys who survive this are gonna have fucked up lungs, kidneys, etc. The health care costs are gonna pile up. No vaccine will reverse the damage.
    It's all good tho! Ken has identified a hypocrite at CNN so his teams response to COVID-19 is all good!

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    What totally blows me away is how people can etch the shit that comes of out of the mouths of these Republicans into the bias confirmation they clutch like it's the word of god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush View Post
    It's all good tho! Ken has identified a hypocrite at CNN so his teams response to COVID-19 is all good!
    What response?

    The positive side is herd immunity is on the way (so long as the antibodies last longer than a few months).

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    Quote Originally Posted by splat View Post
    What totally blows me away is how people can etch the shit that comes of out of the mouths of these Republicans into the bias confirmation they clutch like it's the word of god.
    Really? Look at human history. Too many examples to list. It’s just really appalling in our current age of the theoretically most educated society ever. I kid!


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    Awesome!

    COVID-19 hits Morrow County Public Health

    Morrow County Public Health Department (MCPHD) reminds residents that COVID-19 can affect anyone. Three of its staff members have symptoms of COVID-19. One tested positive for COVID-19 and had close contact with the other two staff members who are ill. The two close contacts are presumed to have COVID-19 and are included in the county’s overall case count.

    All three staff members are home in isolation, as recommended by Oregon Health Authority (OHA) guidance. During the on-going investigation it was determined that the employee who tested positive had contact with a recently confirmed positive case in the community. Due to Public Health’s limited contact services, no clients have been identified as at-risk of exposure.

    “Morrow, like many Oregon counties, is seeing an increase in COVID-19 cases” said Shelley Wight/Communicable Disease Coordinator “These cases are appearing in all parts of society-long term care facilities, food and agricultural facilities, worksites of all kinds- in addition to social gatherings like backyard barbecues and exercise classes. It’s no surprise that even local public health staff and offices are impacted.”

    Public Health learned about the first infection over the weekend and moved swiftly to protect its staff, clients and the community. The other two cases were located during the investigation. Due to the high infectious rate of COVID-19, Morrow County Health Department is closed to the public for the next two weeks for sanitizing and deep cleaning. While our offices will be closed to walk-in services, phone support will continue to be available at 541-676-5421.

    We have partnered with Umatilla County Public Health for client support and needed services, please call 541-278-5432 to make an appointment. OHA is providing support to Public Health with case investigations and contract tracing, these will continue without interruption.
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    The places with the most new daily cases, also have some of the lowest deaths per million (Texas, Florida, California).
    And some of the most new daily cases also have very high levels of testing relative to other parts of the USA.

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    ^^ as has been discussed before, deaths are a lagging indicator. Let’s hope that isn’t true here.

    What does this mean vis a vis your contention that testing maybe isn’t a good thing? I missed where you defended that odd little assertion.
    focus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abraham View Post
    Cheers, I'm on my second. Probably should find a glass.

    I did 6 weeks without booze or coffee starting in April/May sometime. Then eased back into it. I have to buy more beer or the 12% bombers in the basement start to look too tempting. And that's no good for solo drinkingAttachment 334774
    That's a nice looking brew. Overall I've been comfortable with the booze levels throughout this shitstorm. One or two beers, one or two joints, and a drop of 1:1 RSO a few nights a week before bed.

    I'm usually quite good about having only one or two 12 ounce beers in a night, but yesterday was such a fine summer evening, I was making a batch of chicken shawarma (and we all know how well street food and quaff-able beers go together), there were Pfriem Pilsners in the fridge, and I was talking to my folks, so it wasn't even like I was truly drinking alone.

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    I went to get tested yesterday. I'd been in a high infection state, had to fly back, and we're visiting my parents for a few weeks so I wanted to be sure I was negative before ending my self quarantine.

    I call the local express care place doing testing in town and they say to come in and call from the car. I do. They're out of tests. I go back that night and they have them back in stock but they now tell me that they are requiring doctors visits for everyone they test, so I'll need to come inside and get a physical, obviously wanting to have something more to bill my insurance. I have no desire to sit in one of the little examination room where they are putting everyone coming in for tests, so I decline.

    Next I go and make an appointment at a drive through place in a neighboring town. Their procedure was great. I never had to get out of the car and interaction was via cue card, phone, and them passing the kit through my cracked window with one of those mechanical arm extenders.

    But now I won't get my results for 5 to 10 business days. So up to two weeks, and at the least one. That's not really very helpful from a containment perspective. Even if people are positive, they're going to be through the vast majority of the contagious stage before they even know, and contact tracing is going to be much harder given the time lag. It's just another example of our system not being up to this task.

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    ^^^^ that’s ridiculous. And yet there are 24 hour saliva tests out there (my friend’s kid took one in NJ before going to a week overnight camp). Why the fuck haven’t those or something like them been mass produced via the Defense Production Act?

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    Yeah, my ex got her results in 48 hours, same with her other kid just to make sure she only had Croup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The SnowShow View Post
    ^^^^ that’s ridiculous. And yet there are 24 hour saliva tests out there (my friend’s kid took one in NJ before going to a week overnight camp). Why the fuck haven’t those or something like them been mass produced via the Defense Production Act?
    Are you really asking or just screaming to the sky like the rest of us? The US failed the pandemic test. Big league.

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    Buddy of mine's wife got tested in CO, they said a week for results. She got them in 3 days. YMMV

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    Open letter from scientists calling for human challenge trials. Seems inevitable in some form. If not here or Sweden, Russia is listening.

    https://1daysooner.org/openletter

    "If done properly, live Coronavirus human challenge trials can be an important way to accelerate vaccine development and, ideally, to save the lives of millions around the world as well as help rescue global economies. We strongly recommend that production of the unattenuated virus begin immediately consistent with good manufacturing practices for potential use in trials that balance risks and benefits and respect the safety and autonomy of volunteers."

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    Quote Originally Posted by simple View Post
    Are you really asking or just screaming to the sky like the rest of us? The US failed the pandemic test. Big league.
    Bigly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The SnowShow View Post
    ^^^^ that’s ridiculous. And yet there are 24 hour saliva tests out there (my friend’s kid took one in NJ before going to a week overnight camp). Why the fuck haven’t those or something like them been mass produced via the Defense Production Act?
    I was able to get a 15 min test in Portland. Tested in the parking lot and then just sat in the parking lot until they came out with the results.

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