Who's still working?

[sb]

Still brewing over here.

[liv2ski]

That's great Austin & gl. I'll bet the economy starts to recover as the nation gets over the initial shock and figures out how to manage this infection. Fuckall, I hope we get over the divisiveness.

I'm still poking bits for a major game company in the operating systems group from home with a shitty innert00bs link over a VPN. Last week one day, the lead says don't count references to file X in the makefiles as significant, lots of them are typos. A couple days later, I find that the presence of a similar file Y _is_ significant, so I tell him and he flips out, insisting that he told me that the functionality exposed from file Y is broken, completely ignoring what he had said about typos of file references.
Can't win.

Working for others = deh suck. When my business tanks as it always will, the Misses suggests I get a real job. Nope, I would rather starve and not buy stuff, cuz we all know we can get by with less stuff than work for a bunch of dumb cunts

[Buster Highmen]

Working for others = deh suck. When my business tanks as it always will, the Misses suggests I get a real job. Nope, I would rather starve and not buy stuff, cuz we all know we can get by with less stuff than work for a bunch of dumb cunts

Well, yeah, but at $100/hour and 2 college educations to help with, time to suck it up.

[gravitylover]

^I even tried to get some hours turning wrenches at a couple of local bike shops since they're all so busy now. I offered to come in as they're closing and work through the pile of work to be done for a few hours because I really don't want to deal with the chaos that's going on now. I would for decent money but not for what they pay.

Congrats to both Austin and gravitylover

Thanx

That's great Austin & gl. I'll bet the economy starts to recover as the nation gets over the initial shock and figures out how to manage this infection. Fuckall, I hope we get over the divisiveness

Thanx. I don't have any confidence that this idiot country is going to "manage" this successfully. I have even less that we'll mend the breaks in society in the near or even medium future. 10 years maybe but even that's a stretch and at that point I'm hoping to be retired but after losing a few years of income since I turned 50 that's questionable.

[schuss]

That's great Austin & gl. I'll bet the economy starts to recover as the nation gets over the initial shock and figures out how to manage this infection. Fuckall, I hope we get over the divisiveness.

I'm still poking bits for a major game company in the operating systems group from home with a shitty innert00bs link over a VPN. Last week one day, the lead says don't count references to file X in the makefiles as significant, lots of them are typos. A couple days later, I find that the presence of a similar file Y _is_ significant, so I tell him and he flips out, insisting that he told me that the functionality exposed from file Y is broken, completely ignoring what he had said about typos of file references.
Can't win.

Everything I've come to know about game dev is that it's largely a hellscape.

[Buster Highmen]

Everything I've come to know about game dev is that it's largely a hellscape.

I think that's largely true, but I do low level drivers, memory management, graphics support stuff that game devs use.

[phatty]

Just started a new job where we are all WFH. Many coworkers are in other locations. Normally I would get on a plane and go to the other locations to meet and greet, but no dice right now. Onboarding is much tougher over Zoom.

[fastfred]

yes
I hate my job
only 11 hrs long today minus the 8 min walk with the dog to get my head screwed back on
think I"m going to become a jiggalo for nice women in vail and aspen
might be much more fun than what I'm doing now the amount of bullshit and bad news and bullshit I deal with is unreal

[TBS]

My labor will soon be available on the market for the first time since the last Bush administration.

Please send all bids via DM. tyvm

[byates1]

one of my joys is working in kitchens,

i've been turning down jobs. huh

[Mustonen]

Getting pushed to spend more time in the office right now. General push throughout the organization to start getting closer to normal. I don’t really want to, though.... doesn’t make sense. We still shouldn’t be doing face to face meetings, which means zoom meetings and conference calls if we do need to meet. And I can do that very well from home. And when I’m home, my occasional 5 or 10 minute breaks can be taking the dogs for a walk around the block or checking in with my kids rather than walking out to the parking lot or ... whatever.

It’s all very arbitrary, and I’m annoyed by it.

[riser4]

yes
I hate my job
only 11 hrs long today minus the 8 min walk with the dog to get my head screwed back on
think I"m going to become a jiggalo for nice women in vail and aspen
might be much more fun than what I'm doing now the amount of bullshit and bad news and bullshit I deal with is unreal

[fastfred]

Skiing's the easy part, Fred.

it's all easy, got super baked today and told some people that the asbestos and lead paint will only cost an extra 40k
felt like alfred e neuman

to be a good jiggalo you just need to know how to use lube discreately

[schuss]

Getting pushed to spend more time in the office right now. General push throughout the organization to start getting closer to normal. I don’t really want to, though.... doesn’t make sense. We still shouldn’t be doing face to face meetings, which means zoom meetings and conference calls if we do need to meet. And I can do that very well from home. And when I’m home, my occasional 5 or 10 minute breaks can be taking the dogs for a walk around the block or checking in with my kids rather than walking out to the parking lot or ... whatever.

It’s all very arbitrary, and I’m annoyed by it.

That feels silly and dangerous, especially as in many spots offices/gathering spots are the vector for infection.
I work for an F100 and we're only in planning stages of "what does return look like?" As plenty still don't have childcare, won't feel safe coming back etc.
Most FinServ and Tech is Fall at the earliest since there's no reason people can't work from home.

[PNWbrit]

Been working my ass off from home.

Lockdown timed perfectly with a new role I can do completely remotely. And is one I was supposed to be slowly transitioning to from one that wouldn't have been and which would of been a constant turf war over my time.

Been able to jump completely into new project uninterrupted. Haven't been this motivated "at" work in 20 plus years.

They're starting to put plans in place to reopen the office but it's completely and frequently stressed that giving up home working is 100% at employee discretion.

I do miss the social interaction of being in the office though... well at least some of it anyway.

Not missing the commute stress, other than missing actually driving.

[riser4]

it's all easy, got super baked today and told some people that the asbestos and lead paint will only cost an extra 40k
felt like alfred e neuman

to be a good jiggalo you just need to know how to use lube discreately

Aren't you more of a jugalo?

[Mustonen]

That feels silly and dangerous, especially as in many spots offices/gathering spots are the vector for infection.
I work for an F100 and we're only in planning stages of "what does return look like?" As plenty still don't have childcare, won't feel safe coming back etc.
Most FinServ and Tech is Fall at the earliest since there's no reason people can't work from home.

I work for a regional FI with a strong retail focus. My side of the house does very well working from home, but because large segments are heading back to the office and because opinions vary over whether any of it is actually dangerous....

Sigh.

Edit to add: just had a long management team discussion about whether masks were actually effective and how contagious this virus actually was. Also, questioning whether we actually need to follow the governor’s order. We’re in a rural area that wasn’t very impacted by the virus, but in a state that was. So there’s some understandable fatigue and skepticism around the whole thing.

[schuss]

Do we need to listen to medical science and government orders?
Jesus some people need to pull their heads out of their ass.

[Mustonen]

Do we need to listen to medical science and government orders?
Jesus some people need to pull their heads out of their ass.

Have to be pretty careful in those meetings, in that you allow for those viewpoints and protect all the egos and don’t explicitly invalidate their news sources or run the risk of losing influence on the subject. It’s best to just advocate for the safe harbor the exec orders and CDC guidance give us, legally and PR, rather than arguing the science and the politics.

[nickwm21]

I work for a regional FI with a strong retail focus. My side of the house does very well working from home, but because large segments are heading back to the office and because opinions vary over whether any of it is actually dangerous....

Sigh.

Edit to add: just had a long management team discussion about whether masks were actually effective and how contagious this virus actually was. Also, questioning whether we actually need to follow the governor’s order. We’re in a rural area that wasn’t very impacted by the virus, but in a state that was. So there’s some understandable fatigue and skepticism around the whole thing.

Better burn those meeting minutes....

I’m surprised that any company with more sophistication than a corner store would risk litigation by not following the county, governors, and CDC guidance.


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[schuss]

Better burn those meeting minutes....

I’m surprised that any company with more sophistication than a corner store would risk litigation by not following the county, governors, and CDC guidance.


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Plenty of execs only know how to chase money, not how to think competently or responsibly.

[GiBo]

Been working my ass off from home.

Lockdown timed perfectly with a new role I can do completely remotely. And is one I was supposed to be slowly transitioning to from one that wouldn't have been and which would of been a constant turf war over my time.

Been able to jump completely into new project uninterrupted. Haven't been this motivated "at" work in 20 plus years.

They're starting to put plans in place to reopen the office but it's completely and frequently stressed that giving up home working is 100% at employee discretion.

I do miss the social interaction of being in the office though... well at least some of it anyway.

Not missing the commute stress, other than missing actually driving.

I agree. I was way more motivated when I was at home. Just felt fresh every morning and felt an extra obligation to work hard because I felt they were doing me right by letting me stay home. Now back at work in this dysfunctional environment, I have more of a fuck it attitude than ever. I got over the driving thing in about 2 days. Commuting fucking sucks.

Yesterday, our director met with the maintenance guys. He actually told them, "I don't get it. I can go to Costco, but I can't go to church?" This is a guy who won't allow anyone in his office building, but wanders around in all the other buildings.

[Mustonen]

Better burn those meeting minutes....

I’m surprised that any company with more sophistication than a corner store would risk litigation by not following the county, governors, and CDC guidance.


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That’s not the kind of thing that would make it into minutes. Even if it did, we assess the cost/benefit of noncompliance all the time. Most good businesses do.

Also, to be clear, the discussion didn’t inform any actual decisions made; I’m just relating the tenor of discussions on the topic and the upward battle we are facing with this thing. Give laymen the opportunity to pick and choose their favorite information, well, this is what you get.

Also, you’re surprised? I’m aware of more than one company (not us) with hundreds of millions in assets who are choosing to do exactly that.

[Mustonen]

Plenty of execs only know how to chase money, not how to think competently or responsibly.

If we were chasing money it wouldn’t be a problem. There’s no money in not following the exec order to the letter. The minute you stray the minute you start to inject risk into the situation, and this isn’t a risk we’ll ever get paid for.

We’re chasing politics and personal convenience and have an aversion to doing hard things (force compliance).

[schuss]

If we were chasing money it wouldn’t be a problem. There’s no money in not following the exec order to the letter. The minute you stray the minute you start to inject risk into the situation, and this isn’t a risk we’ll ever get paid for.

We’re chasing politics and personal convenience and have an aversion to doing hard things (force compliance).

Bleh, good luck with the ever tightening financial controls then. If they aren't going to bother doing their jobs properly, perhaps they should look for others.
Get them to own the messaging around returning/non-compliance and watch how quickly they're willing to fall in line...