Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

**Core Shot** · 03-21-2020, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by skifishbum

never met or knew Jack Kennedy
I know iceman
im no iceman
that guys way smarter and harder to kill than i
and bwwwaaaahhh spats got the "fuck you in the ear your'e on ignore"
from the guy who watches Hannity everyday
ouch
im going with to batshit looney to be let in my house irl ever again -sfb
and hope to add another sfb sig to my collection

I had a beer and a half a sandwich with Teddy K

Who wants to touch me? Oh wait touching is over

**summit** · 03-21-2020, 08:03 AM

Originally Posted by Rideski

Apparently doubt about hand sanitizer arises?
I hate the stuff personally. That’s why I’ve mentioned gloves a few times.
10 cents a pair for anyone that is at risk.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...wsuit-n1165461

Edit: but I still fully encourage people to use it for sure. My tongue is still tingling from the copious amounts I used today when gloves weren’t practical. I’m sure it kills some bullshit. Whether it kills the ronass or not I’m not sure.

That's silly.

It's completely effective against this virus if you use it properly.

So is soap and water.

**Name Redacted** · 03-21-2020, 08:14 AM

Use both! Sanitizer when you can't use soap. Local distilleries are making hand sanitizer. That's kinda cool.

**Art Shirk** · 03-21-2020, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by Kailua_Boys

Lol. I currently live a few miles down the road from where this video was taken.

People in Hawaii are pushing for mandatory quarantine. But, according to the governor, he doesn't have that authority.

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My family is from Kailua and they are reporting the same thing - full beaches. Then again my cousins may be part of the problem. I’m scared for the island with only 50 ICU beds and a lack of more direct mandates. I have elderly family there too and they won’t make it through this if it spreads, which is a foregone conclusion. Stay well and have a drink at Creekside if it’s still open.

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**iceman** · 03-21-2020, 08:38 AM

Just to circle back around to the tomatoes for a second, I made some chicken parm the other day from a recipe (normally I'd just make it without a recipe but my wife saw this one and pointed it out so I did it) and the tomatoes were canned italian cherry tomatoes. I don't think I even really knew they were a thing. Pretty cool ingredient, super tasty. You mash up some of the tomatoes with a fork as you make the sauce and leave the rest whole, I mashed about half of them I guess but you could do whatever. Really bright strong tomato flavor, I'll use them again. the ones I used were Cirio:

Back to the virus, Bret Stephens is a very smart guy who I often disagree with. Today he has basically encapsulated my thinking (as it stands at the moment, at least). Worthwhile piece imo: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/20/o...irus-data.html

**Adolf Allerbush** · 03-21-2020, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by iceman

Just to circle back around to the tomatoes for a second, I made some chicken parm the other day from a recipe (normally I'd just make it without a recipe but my wife saw this one and pointed it out so I did it) and the tomatoes were canned italian cherry tomatoes. I don't think I even really knew they were a thing. Pretty cool ingredient, super tasty. You mash up some of the tomatoes with a fork as you make the sauce and leave the rest whole, I mashed about half of them I guess but you could do whatever. Really bright strong tomato flavor, I'll use them again. the ones I used were Cirio:

Back to the virus, Bret Stephens is a very smart guy who I often disagree with. Today he has basically encapsulated my thinking (as it stands at the moment, at least). Worthwhile piece imo: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/20/o...irus-data.html

RE: Stephens....I take his view as resulting in 2-week periods of populations staying at home to avoid overwhelming the HC system... meanwhile go back to mostly business as usual.

**Lone Star** · 03-21-2020, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by iceman

Back to the virus, Bret Stephens is a very smart guy who I often disagree with. Today he has basically encapsulated my thinking (as it stands at the moment, at least). Worthwhile piece imo: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/20/o...irus-data.html

After reading this piece it was shocking to find out that he's a climate change skeptic.

**LeeLau** · 03-21-2020, 09:06 AM

Re that NYT articles by Stephens, while thoughtful, it's counter to my feeling (shared by healthcare experts) that in this pandemic you plan for the worse and "hope" for the best

**iceman** · 03-21-2020, 09:07 AM

@ Lone Star: Not sure what his climate change stance is offhand. He's definitely a Republican but nowhere near a Trumper. And as I said I often disagree with him. On this it happens that my thinking has been along some of the same paths.

**Benny Profane** · 03-21-2020, 09:10 AM

The economic repercussions of this event will make the actual virus look like the common cold. If this lasts even a few months, it will kill many more. Nobody has any money now, and this will just drain them of everything.

**shroom** · 03-21-2020, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by iceman

Back to the virus, Bret Stephens is a very smart guy who I often disagree with. Today he has basically encapsulated my thinking (as it stands at the moment, at least). Worthwhile piece imo: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/20/o...irus-data.html

don’t disagree, but remember that we make up the rules

**glademaster** · 03-21-2020, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by Benny Profane

The economic repercussions of this event will make the actual virus look like the common cold. If this lasts even a few months, it will kill many more. Nobody has any money now, and this will just drain them of everything.

There have been far worse times to be a government worker who's classified as essential personnel.

**Core Shot** · 03-21-2020, 09:21 AM

Back to the tomatoes

Never seen canned cherry tomatoes

Bet they’re tasty

Iceman, sounds like a fresh sauce. Many folks think you stew sauce for hours.

But there’s another method of quickly cooking fresh diced tomatoes quickly in butter. I actually like it better. You can taste the tomato

**Thurgood Jenkins** · 03-21-2020, 09:23 AM

it's robbing wealth from my entire street. People are hurting already.

When do the margin calls come in? My neighbor makes pretty good bread. Now's he's broke. With a mortgage and yard full of financed toys.

Poor people will always be poor. Now rich people are going to be poor. The Bernie Crowd wants wealth distribution. This is wealth evaporation.

**iceman** · 03-21-2020, 09:24 AM

CS, yeah it was like a 20-minute sauce, then into a pan with the chicken, cheese on top and bake. Easy quick and delicious.

**Art Shirk** · 03-21-2020, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by Thurgood Jenkins

it's robbing wealth from my entire street. People are hurting already.

When do the margin calls come in? My neighbor makes pretty good bread. Now's he's broke. With a mortgage and yard full of financed toys.

Poor people will always be poor. Now rich people are going to be poor. The Bernie Crowd wants wealth distribution. This is wealth evaporation.

Not downplaying the financial impact this is having and will have on people (I stand to make about 70% less this year) but how do you go from making good bread to being broke in a month? Margin calls? So he was so leveraged that if his positions went bust, him and his family become destitute?

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**Art Shirk** · 03-21-2020, 09:27 AM

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**glademaster** · 03-21-2020, 09:29 AM

Hang on, let me get my tiniest violin ready so I can play a tune for Thursgood's neighbor.

**Whiteroom_Guardian** · 03-21-2020, 09:31 AM

I'm on the verge of moving into an industrial shithole Mad Max warehouse complex. That's how well this is going.

**Art Shirk** · 03-21-2020, 09:32 AM

Hope you are doing well glade! You just keep being the endearing and positive you.

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**huckbucket** · 03-21-2020, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by Art Shirk

Not downplaying the financial impact this is having and will have on people (I stand to make about 70% less this year) but how do you go from making good bread to being broke in a month? Margin calls? So he was so leveraged that if his positions went bust, him and his family become destitute?

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Thank you. If there's one thing that's abundantly clear from the impact of this virus it's that our economy is fucking fragile. Notwithstanding that, I can't imagine the exposure to go to zero in a month. WTF?

**powdrhound** · 03-21-2020, 09:34 AM

Do we trust N95 masks that are advertised on TGR?

**St. Jerry** · 03-21-2020, 09:34 AM

Governor Cuomo, thank you for stepping up and being the leader we desperately need right now!!! (Heck, they’re even showing his press conference on Faux news)

**Thurgood Jenkins** · 03-21-2020, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by Art Shirk

Not downplaying the financial impact this is having and will have on people (I stand to make about 70% less this year) but how do you go from making good bread to being broke in a month? Margin calls? So he was so leveraged that if his positions went bust, him and his family become destitute?

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I'm not sure. I'm surmising my income will drop about about the same as yours and his will too. My peer group is demographically similar to me (and probably like many others on this board) and likely don't have a lot of cash sitting around. I'm going to take a massive income hit. There's only so much specie regular people have sitting around.

Having cash sitting around falls into the "D'OH... I should have backed up my hard drive". Hindsight is 20/20. That trip to Costa Rica he took after that sweet deal looked pretty good at the time, not so much now.