Moment Skis Discussion

[rudy]

Just got my WC108 mounted with the shift 100 mm bindings. do you have any trouble on the brakes getting stuck on the top of the skis when stepping out of the bindings?

Nope, never had that issue.

[gluvva]

Nope, never had that issue.

Did you have to bend the brakes a bit to fit the 100mm brakes on the 108 width ski?

[HAB]

Did you have to bend the brakes a bit to fit the 100mm brakes on the 108 width ski?

Shouldn't. I put 100s on a 104 and they had a bit of room (and got 110s on a 128 ski with only a tiny bit of bending).

[mc_roon]

Any of you taken the wildcat tour layups for laps inbounds?

I did some laps on my 108 tours and they RIP. SO MUCH FUN. Idk if I like them better than my Bibbys yet or not, not quite as chargy, but damn were they playful. I'm very excited to take them back out. 10/10 would ride again.

Yea on mtns amazing on anything soft soooo playful. Posted here a few pages ago.


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Totally. I’ve got 184cm WC108 Tours with Tectons that I’m winding up using a surprising amount on lift serviced days. While I’m a fan of skis with a lot of top end, they’re fast becoming my go to ski when I’m not looking to charge, or have tired legs or sore knees. I could totally see some skiers getting along with these as 100% lift served skis, they’re that good.

I usually ski a 190 bibby inbounds, but when I tried my 184 WC108 tours with MTNs in the resort I felt very unstable - reiterates my need to find someone who has 190s and wants 184s. If anyones does, let me know!

[pembyguy]

I usually ski a 190 bibby inbounds, but when I tried my 184 WC108 tours with MTNs in the resort I felt very unstable - reiterates my need to find someone who has 190s and wants 184s. If anyones does, let me know!

Weird. I loved my 108t inbounds, same binders. It was soft though. I did ski them pretty committed; pressuring the cuffs hard initiating turns. I felt they were precise; lots of feedback on the hard variable tho.


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[btacju]

Putting it here before GS - 187 meridians for sale. 2018-19 edition, one mount for salomon wardens, not sure of exact mount but fit my 317 very easily and close to if not on the line. One edge repair right where the edge ends at the base - done at the moment factory and now not noticeable. Comes with the wardens. $275 plus shipping?

sent you a dm btw, interested if you haven't already sold

[scmartin69]

sent you a dm btw, interested if you haven't already sold

Got it, kids are skiing them this weekend and I'm heading out of country (not to ski ) so it'll be late February (22nd
-ish) before I get a decision... They're yours if they don't want them...

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[IanCH]

I've picked up a set of WCT108 in 190 and Shifts arriving in Jhole when I do tomorrow. Mounting with shifts, will share some impressions after I get a few days in.

[kid-kapow]

Just got my WC108 mounted with the shift 100 mm bindings. do you have any trouble on the brakes getting stuck on the top of the skis when stepping out of the bindings?

if that happens then just trim the top inside platic bit on the brake arm - aka the little stud that probably is what is catching on the ski before the brakes make it down and out - and/or try to bend them a tiny bit. I run a pair of 100mm brakes on some 112mm skis without issue, so at 108mm there shouldn't be much of an issue to have them perform flawlessly each and every time.

[bskin]

Long shot I know but if anyone has a pair of this years commander 108s their not getting along with I would be interested.


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[bskin]

Long shot I know but if anyone has a pair of this years commander 108s their not getting along with I would be interested.


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[mc_roon]

Weird. I loved my 108t inbounds, same binders. It was soft though. I did ski them pretty committed; pressuring the cuffs hard initiating turns. I felt they were precise; lots of feedback on the hard variable tho.

Based on everyone else's experiences I think my issue is more with them being too short when compared to my heavy 190s as a baseline. I picked them up at the end of last season on here and was on the fence about the size, should have trusted my gut.

[IanCH]

Based on everyone else's experiences I think my issue is more with them being too short when compared to my heavy 190s as a baseline. I picked them up at the end of last season on here and was on the fence about the size, should have trusted my gut.

Kinda happy I went with 190 over 184, I was very on the fence too...

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[Toddball]

Are Meridian Tours the same rocker profile as normal Meridians? Any issues with grip on firm skintracks? What about edge grip on ice?

[pembyguy]

Kinda happy I went with 190 over 184, I was very on the fence too...

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Took the reg 108 190 shifts out today. Easy to throw around. Real fun. Didn’t notice any big difference between these and the 184 tours apart from feedback from hard snow!! Only a few harmony laps tho....


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[lemonhead]

Are Meridian Tours the same rocker profile as normal Meridians? Any issues with grip on firm skintracks? What about edge grip on ice?

They are the same with skin friendly tips and no issues with grip on skin track.

[2clue]

Took the reg 108 190 shifts out today. Easy to throw around. Real fun. Didn’t notice any big difference between these and the 184 tours apart from feedback from hard snow!! Only a few harmony laps tho.... TGR Forums

The difference on hard snow is BIG! I'm not sure if it was because I was on a tech setup for the WCT108 or if it was the skis construction. I was not able to get them to bite well on ice at all.

[gluvva]

The difference on hard snow is BIG! I'm not sure if it was because I was on a tech setup for the WCT108 or if it was the skis construction. I was not able to get them to bite well on ice at all.

I thought the WC 108 held a decent edge on groomers but as pointed out anything ice was quite an interesting experience. I did not like the feel at all on ice or refrozen groomers (it rained the night before then froze over) but this ski is not made for this type of conditions. Overall an excellent ski everything skis, might be my daily driver except when i know its going to be a hardpack type of day.

[toast2266]

I thought the WC 108 held a decent edge on groomers but as pointed out anything ice was quite an interesting experience. I did not like the feel at all on ice or refrozen groomers (it rained the night before then froze over) but this ski is not made for this type of conditions. Overall an excellent ski everything skis, might be my daily driver except when i know its going to be a hardpack type of day.

Agreed 100% with this. The WC108 has such deep rocker lines that if things are truly firm, there's not a ton of edge on the snow and it gets kinda squirrely. Even on soft-ish groomers, I don't think the WC108 rises above "fine." It doesn't load up and trench a turn like a more traditional ski. But, of course, its shape makes it way more fun than a traditional ski on cut up off groomed stuff, which is really where that ski is at home.

[Luke Campbell]

Getting ready to order wildcat 108s and am debating between try 184 and 190...looks like straight pull length on them is 2-3 cm shorter than stated. I also have pbj 188 so want something similar length...thoughts?

[Melee]

Getting ready to order wildcat 108s and am debating between try 184 and 190...looks like straight pull length on them is 2-3 cm shorter than stated. I also have pbj 188 so want something similar length...thoughts?

Most brand do not measure skis based on a straight tape pull.

Most brands, like Moment, list the length of the ski based on the length of the base material while flat on the edge table during manufacturing.

Rocker lines and tip rise effect what the straight tape outcome will be.

Effective edge is a much better metric to look at to gauge how long a ski will "feel".

If you have 188 PBJ's get a 190 Wildcat 108.

[Luke Campbell]

That what way I was leaning, just want make sure it’s still quick enough for tight spaces.

[gluvva]

Agreed 100% with this. The WC108 has such deep rocker lines that if things are truly firm, there's not a ton of edge on the snow and it gets kinda squirrely. Even on soft-ish groomers, I don't think the WC108 rises above "fine." It doesn't load up and trench a turn like a more traditional ski. But, of course, its shape makes it way more fun than a traditional ski on cut up off groomed stuff, which is really where that ski is at home.

Yeah the WC108 absolutely slays it on chopped up snow or anything but bulletproof ice. I don't typically like moguls but man this ski makes it fun and did not mind going thru them at all. Tree skiing/tight spots on these are on point super easy to pivot.

Has anyone used the DPS phantom? looking to get some applied on my bibby and the rest of the quiver.

[toast2266]

Yeah the WC108 absolutely slays it on chopped up snow or anything but bulletproof ice. I don't typically like moguls but man this ski makes it fun and did not mind going thru them at all. Tree skiing/tight spots on these are on point super easy to pivot.

Has anyone used the DPS phantom? looking to get some applied on my bibby and the rest of the quiver.

Yeah, I've been having a ton of fun in moguls on the WC108. Poppy enough to double through stuff super easy. Smeary enough that scrubbing speed isn't a problem. Stiff enough to be entirely composed when I fuck up and have to eat the faces of a few bumps.

[macon]

Has anyone used the DPS phantom? looking to get some applied on my bibby and the rest of the quiver.

I've had it on my bibbys for 2 seasons now.

I like it a lot. Definitely recommend it.