Please get a flu vaccine

[old goat]

No I'm seriously making the point that most things are not studied for small long term negatives unless they are so likely to be bad that they are generally suspected to be very bad in the first place (thus my examples of tobacco). It is this way because it is so hard and expensive to do large longitudinal studies.

So if you are going to make it a point that the absence of negative longitudinal studies is a good reason to forgo something otherwise beneficial, my sarcasm was that you had better avoid almost everything, including virtually every medication and supplement, otherwise you are engaged in a case of special pleading against flu vaccines.

Most drug complications are discovered based on individual adverse reaction reports to the FDA. Actual long term studies for side effects are virtually nonexistent. If a drug is studied at all post approval it's usually to compare it with another drug or to test it for a new use; complications might popup in these studies but usually the studies are too small to detect unusual but severe complications. Post marketing drug risks are a bonanza for the plaintiffs' bar. Much as I disrespect big pharma, it should probably be immunized (pun intended) for risks that crop up after drugs are on the market for a while as long as there is no evidence of concealment.

[bodywhomper]

Has this been discussed here yet? https://www.pnas.org/content/115/5/1081

The flu spreading/shedding by immunize participants is interesting, but many follow-up questions seem relevant, obvious, and perhaps easy to test and analyze. What do y'all think?

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[byates1]

Most drug complications are discovered based on individual adverse reaction reports to the FDA. Actual long term studies for side effects are virtually nonexistent. If a drug is studied at all post approval it's usually to compare it with another drug or to test it for a new use; complications might popup in these studies but usually the studies are too small to detect unusual but severe complications. Post marketing drug risks are a bonanza for the plaintiffs' bar. Much as I disrespect big pharma, it should probably be immunized (pun intended) for risks that crop up after drugs are on the market for a while as long as there is no evidence of concealment.

confirmation bias/ reality distortion field. (comey/jobs)

[ichibaneye]

what a bunch of dupes and dimwhits. Cheers for going round and round ya nutters. hugs n kisses my bitches. now go ski or shut the f up!

[Art Shirk]

Holy duck. I’m in my own personal hell. 1 week in and still fucked. Send hookers (they can be of varying pedigree because the lights need to be off anyway) and blow (with some Flonase - Blonase).


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[old goat]

Holy duck. I’m in my own personal hell. 1 week in and still fucked. Send hookers (they can be of varying pedigree because the lights need to be off anyway) and blow (with some Flonase - Blonase).


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If you can even think about hookers and blow you do not have influenza.

[Art Shirk]

It’s the flu, doc. And it is as bad as I’ve ever felt.


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[old goat]

Then I can only say that your problem with hookers and blow is very serious and you need help. Hope you're feeling better soon.

[riser4]

Holy duck. I’m in my own personal hell. 1 week in and still fucked. Send hookers (they can be of varying pedigree because the lights need to be off anyway) and blow (with some Flonase - Blonase).


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Blonase! Love it!