Get Down with Down (skis)

[SiSt]

This can´t be correct?

You´re right, they were reversed. Fixed now.

[doebedoe]

So, list of straight pull from tail to recommended mounting point:

CD114 (all layup versions are the same):
182: 830mm
189: 862mm
196: 894mm

CD 104:
181: 797mm
187: 828mm

LD 102:
179: 773mm
186: 803mm

LD 90:
177: 765mm

SD 105:
187: 824mm
202: 890mm

SD 95:
184: 820mm

TD 105:
182: 889mm
172: 854mm

TD 89:
181: 911mm (center mount, it´s symmetrical)

This is useful for me too, as I can reference this when doing next years´ graphics... :-D

This is relevant....to our interests....https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...56#post5490356

Thanks. For both the skis and the detailed mount points.

[galibier_numero_un]

Indeed! Thanks for the mount point beta.

[waxoff]

Be cautious when installing the tourers. I encountered two spinners on one Radical heel, and I hadn't even started to build up torque for the final twist before the threads let go on my 104L's. There were also very little effort needed to drill them, like drilling cold butter, pay attention!
Toes tighted up properly without problems though.

I did not tap the holes as I never do, maybe that was what pushed me over the edge. No worries on my behalf though as both heels will get inserts for all screws as a precautionary measure.

[mall walker]

So, list of straight pull from tail to recommended mounting point:

CD114 (all layup versions are the same):
182: 830mm
189: 862mm
196: 894mm

CD 104:
181: 797mm
187: 828mm

LD 102:
179: 773mm
186: 803mm

LD 90:
177: 765mm

SD 105:
187: 824mm
202: 890mm

SD 95:
184: 820mm

TD 105:
182: 889mm
172: 854mm

TD 89:
181: 911mm (center mount, it´s symmetrical)

This is useful for me too, as I can reference this when doing next years´ graphics... :-D

thank you for this!

[auvgeek]

Be cautious when installing the tourers. I encountered two spinners on one Radical heel, and I hadn't even started to build up torque for the final twist before the threads let go on my 104L's. There were also very little effort needed to drill them, like drilling cold butter, pay attention!
Toes tighted up properly without problems though.

I did not tap the holes as I never do, maybe that was what pushed me over the edge. No worries on my behalf though as both heels will get inserts for all screws as a precautionary measure.

That's super weird. I don't recall that being the issue on either pair of the Down skis I've mounted (edit: both were "touring" models).

[waxoff]

That's super weird. I don't recall that being the issue on either pair of the Down skis I've mounted.

New experience for me too, and these are my fifth pair of Downs.

[galibier_numero_un]

Same here, but it never hurts to pay attention ;-)

... Thom

[SiSt]

Occasionally happens in skis with the light cores (spinners). There is a mounting reinforcement layer covering any binding/bsl known, so we have very few pullouts happening.

Good to hear you're getting them fixed with inserts. As always, let us know if there are problems, we try to go above and beyond to rectify things.

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[waxoff]

Occasionally happens in skis with the light cores (spinners). There is a mounting reinforcement layer covering any binding/bsl known, so we have very few pullouts happening.

Good to hear you're getting them fixed with inserts. As always, let us know if there are problems, we try to go above and beyond to rectify things.

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That's good to know, thanks Simen!

[galibier_numero_un]

I'm getting ready to box (for re-shipping) a few of the skis that shipped to Colorado, and I want to emphasize to go with Simen's numbers.

I checked a few pairs. On one pair, the silk-screened line is 1.5cm forward of recommended center. On a couple of other pairs the silk-screened center line straddles the recommended line by about 1cm - one ahead of and one behind the line. I didn't measure every pair - even I'm not that OCD.

Simen's idea moving forward is brilliant. It should be industry standard. It may take us a while to get there, but we get there [emoji3]

Thanks again for wrestling this issue into submission, Simen!

... Thom

[pyromaniacman129]

I was temped by the 187cm 105s ... sanity prevailed.

I should have my 202s in hand this week!
I'm 6'7"ish and 250lbs. Finding a charging ski I don't feel like is a park ski under me is challenging. That being said I'm slightly terrified of these already. Also ordered the 196 cd114!

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[N1CK.]

I'm glad this topic was raised. The line on my 95s is forward of the -10 target mark ... closer to -8.

[pyromaniacman129]

West coast shipment is here! Holy hell these 202s are monsters!!

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[homebrewd]

West coast shipment is here! Holy hell these 202s are monsters!!

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Jesus those 202s make the CD104s look like 168s.

[SupreChicken]

The td 105 looks like a center mounted Kartel. Generous, rounded rocker lines, thick-ish core. Will post photos once I mount - stoked to try them.

Slightly off topic question. These are replacing the only ski I have left without substantial rocker. Anyone here ever worry about keeping a traditional old school ski in the quiver if only to keep your form and technique honest? Or is that a stupid thing to worry about? Maybe a more appropriate question for dgamms old man park skiing thread

[homebrewd]

The td 105 looks like a center mounted Kartel. Generous, rounded rocker lines, thick-ish core. Will post photos once I mount - stoked to try them.

Slightly off topic question. These are replacing the only ski I have left without substantial rocker. Anyone here ever worry about keeping a traditional old school ski in the quiver if only to keep your form and technique honest? Or is that a stupid thing to worry about? Maybe a more appropriate question for dgamms old man park skiing thread

Nothing wrong with that. I got the other pair of TD105s but will ski some traditional shapes early season to get the legs ready for deep snow. I like crud cutting stiff planks when the snow isn't fresh, especially in Colorado.

[galibier_numero_un]

Slightly off topic question. These are replacing the only ski I have left without substantial rocker. Anyone here ever worry about keeping a traditional old school ski in the quiver if only to keep your form and technique honest? Or is that a stupid thing to worry about? Maybe a more appropriate question for dgamms old man park skiing thread

I have a pair of second year Coombas that come out a couple of half days each year. They remind me I'm not as good as I think I am ;-)

They also remind me that not all 181s are short.

... Thom

[margotron]

I enjoy it. Ski a Rossi sickle still.


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[N1CK.]

The td 105 looks like a center mounted Kartel. Generous, rounded rocker lines, thick-ish core. Will post photos once I mount - stoked to try them.

Slightly off topic question. These are replacing the only ski I have left without substantial rocker. Anyone here ever worry about keeping a traditional old school ski in the quiver if only to keep your form and technique honest? Or is that a stupid thing to worry about? Maybe a more appropriate question for dgamms old man park skiing thread

I've always had a cambered, early rise tip ski. Def a place and lots of fun on those not-so-fresh days.

[Bubulefou]

SD105 2017/2018 vs SD105 2018/2019 :


2018/2019 have more camber and weight a little more : ~4900g vs ~4800g

[kid-kapow]

holy... Those skis look like they wanna haul!

[N1CK.]

SD105 2017/2018 vs SD105 2018/2019 :


2018/2019 have more camber and weight a little more : ~4900g vs ~4800g

Sick.
Double check the line measurement against the info SiSt posted in this thread. Mine was forward a bit.
When I saw the amount of camber on the 95s I was concerned at first. Having been out on them I can say it feels/works great.

[pyromaniacman129]

Sick.
Double check the line measurement against the info SiSt posted in this thread. Mine was forward a bit.
When I saw the amount of camber on the 95s I was concerned at first. Having been out on them I can say it feels/works great.

Can't wait to get on my 202s. Feel like they're going to want to go fast and straight for some reason....

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[galibier_numero_un]

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