Ahhh man. I just finally killed my 196 cd114 after 5 or so seasons on them. Core shot the size of a stick of gum through to the core(which splintered a good bit), cracked and compressed edge. Favorite daily driver ski I’ve had. Guess I missed the last pair this year!
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Massive discounts on certain lengths in the Down webshop currently. How about €299 for the 192 cm Showdown 108? Regulars, not B-Grades.
Various B-Grades also further reduced
^^^ thx for heads up WL... my daughter picked up some showdown 108s in 171 for $106 (+ $107 ship to US)! the regulars were cheaper than the outlet 2nds. I was tempted by the 192s for $265 + ship
Has anybody tried the new shape of the Countdowns?
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Have em & really like them. What specifically are you interested in?
Two things…
1, my daughter got her SD108s mounted up and got some days on em and lives em. She’s generally into super loose and tapered armadas so I was afraid these would be too traditional but she is digging em and finds em super versatile.
2, is the armada locator 104 a clone of the old cd104L? I’m a down fan but I’m “down” on the added weight on the newer version. The armadas look so similar to the old. Wish they made something between 178 and 186 tho.
I noticed the weights went up on the Countdown line, but from the description of the skis, it isn't clear why or if that's even accurate. Can anyone groundtruth or explain it?
They added beefier based and edges. I think that was based on euro feedback. With so much gondi access and rocky alps, was demand for more durability and cost of more weight.
I have the 181 cd 104 L and both skis are right near the stated weight. I did exchange them for a pair of blemsthat were 90g per ski over. For me it’s about as heavy as I want to go. Definitely excited for the thick bases and edges skiing granite in NE. I think the top sheet may be on the heavier side too.I ended up with an extra set of bindings so I picked up cheap a pair of 178 locator 104. I have three days in wild powder of various densities on them and three days exercising at resorts. I have not moved bindings over from 180 0g to the cd skis as I was still beating them on rocks and wanted to preserve the cd edges. Visually I was surprised by the camber on the locators. All three skis seem much more alike than different holding them. All have excellent looking builds. The locators moved easily through powder and were very compliant pivoting. They seemed less adept than the 0g on the icy ungroomed runs, but also different boots being used. Hoping the cd L have a stronger edge and more dampening than the locators so it becomes my all arounder and the locator is more for longer days and powder.
Interesting, thx cat, good intel.
I’m gonna jinx myself but I have probably near 100 days on the older version cd104Ls, bought used from tgapp, and they’ve held up amazingly
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