Anyone have anything they'd like to rant about?

[Bunion 2020]

I believe some of them are specifically riding the trails then because you're not. Seems like it around here, anyway.

Somehow I think it is because mud and trail conditions/damage don't have any affect on their chosen form of transportation.

[toast2266]

Somehow I think it is because mud and trail conditions/damage don't have any affect on their chosen form of transportation.

I've had conversations with the managers at a local dude ranch that takes tourists for horseback rides on a trail system that sees a lot of bike traffic. They're good folks, and we all get along pretty well, but they're impressively oblivious to the tread damage they do.

[jono]

Somehow I think it is because mud and trail conditions/damage don't have any affect on their chosen form of transportation.

Certainly at least half of it. But at my local trail system the horse people (and a lot of the bikers) live close enough to ride to the trails and the sign of horse presence is way up on the first ride after a rain. These trails are a little tight and the horse folk rather surly; not hostile or anything, but I think they strongly prefer to have the mountain bike trails to themselves.

[mtngirl79]

There is a lady that rides her horse on some of the shared trails here that shows up to trails days and will repair other horse damage as soon as she knows about it.

Her horse is also really cool and was the first horse my dog met when he was a pup and he tried to play with its tail and the horse didnt kick him, which I wouldnt have blamed it for. He didnt really react at all. She didnt get pissed, either, which I also wouldnt have blamed her for.

I think we can all be a little guilty of only caring about the things that affect us or that we care about and scoffing at things we think shouldn't matter.

[Kopi_Red]

I think we can all be a little guilty of only caring about the things that affect us or that we care about and scoffing at things we think shouldn't matter.

That's because it's my lawn dammit! And I want everyone else to get off of it!!!

[californiagrown]

I feel like for the first week my suspension feels awesome and supple. After that first week it feels kinda sticky and just 'meh and doesnt get better or worse until its next service interval. I don't get it and it annoys the shit out of me!

[toast2266]

I think we can all be a little guilty of only caring about the things that affect us or that we care about and scoffing at things we think shouldn't matter.

This is absolutely true.

And rationale, reasonable thinking like that is why mountain bikers keep getting closed out of more and more trails. If the bike community had a legion of rabid, get-off-my-lawn retirees with a bunch of time on their hands that could be worked into a frenzy every time there was a land management decision to be made, I think we'd still have access to a lot of great trail. But instead we have calm, respectful dialogue that always results in our getting our asses kicked.

[toast2266]

I feel like for the first week my suspension feels awesome and supple. After that first week it feels kinda sticky and just 'meh and doesnt get better or worse until its next service interval. I don't get it and it annoys the shit out of me!

get some stanchion lube. that shit works.

[Dantheman]

get some stanchion lube. that shit works.

Did not know that was a thing. So, this:

https://www.jensonusa.com/Finish-Lin...SABEgLfDvD_BwE

Or this?

https://www.worldwidecyclery.com/pro...yABEgLr5vD_BwE


At $11 for 0.5 oz the price of the liquid stuff in the first link seems outrageous.

[toast2266]

Did not know that was a thing. So, this:

https://www.jensonusa.com/Finish-Lin...SABEgLfDvD_BwE

Or this?

https://www.worldwidecyclery.com/pro...yABEgLr5vD_BwE


At $11 for 0.5 oz the price of the liquid stuff in the first link seems outrageous.

That first one is what I've used. And yeah, it's crazy expensive. But you also don't use much. A drop or two on each stanchion makes a noticeable difference.

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[californiagrown]

get some stanchion lube. that shit works.

Used a couple different products. Its not the initial stiction, its like the top-mid stroke. the first week my suspension feels super soft off the top and ramps up nicely, but then it just starts feeling more firm off the top with the same ramp at the end. Might be my mind playing tricks too.

[skaredshtles]

Used a couple different products. Its not the initial stiction, its like the top-mid stroke. the first week my suspension feels super soft off the top and ramps up nicely, but then it just starts feeling more firm off the top with the same ramp at the end. Might be my mind playing tricks too.

Let me guess... Fox 34?

[californiagrown]

Let me guess... Fox 34?

Pike and Yari. Im a simpleton who prefers the turtle vs hare symbols.

[skaredshtles]

Pike and Yari. Im a simpleton who prefers the turtle vs hare symbols.

Perhaps, my brother, I could introduce you to the Book of Coil?

[TahoeJ]

This is absolutely true.

And rationale, reasonable thinking like that is why mountain bikers keep getting closed out of more and more trails. If the bike community had a legion of rabid, get-off-my-lawn retirees with a bunch of time on their hands that could be worked into a frenzy every time there was a land management decision to be made, I think we'd still have access to a lot of great trail. But instead we have calm, respectful dialogue that always results in our getting our asses kicked.

Pretty much. I think a lot of groups have had enough in that regard and have decided to go fully crazy / rabid / fuck this shit... and I don't blame them. The respectful approach hasn't done much good in most places.

[toast2266]

Used a couple different products. Its not the initial stiction, its like the top-mid stroke. the first week my suspension feels super soft off the top and ramps up nicely, but then it just starts feeling more firm off the top with the same ramp at the end. Might be my mind playing tricks too.

You could try just cracking open the bottom bolts and adding a few cc's of 15wt just to lube things up. Might not make any difference, but wouldn't really hurt anything, it's easy to do, and it'd help cross a source of friction off the list.

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[Bunion 2020]

That first one is what I've used. And yeah, it's crazy expensive. But you also don't use much. A drop or two on each stanchion makes a noticeable difference.

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Can't seem to find it anymore but Englund De-friction lube was the shit. I still have 1/3rd of a jar.

[JerseyDave]

Has "Gravel" been bitched about yet?
"If you're in sales or marketing, kill yourself."
-B. Hicks

[Jonny Snow]

Used a couple different products. Its not the initial stiction, its like the top-mid stroke. the first week my suspension feels super soft off the top and ramps up nicely, but then it just starts feeling more firm off the top with the same ramp at the end. Might be my mind playing tricks too.

I inject synthetic motor into the upper seals on my pike every 4-6 rides. Remove the ring, peel the seal back with the end of a zip tie, inject oil, cycle the fork to get out any gunk, wipe excess oil, then replace rings. Keeps the seals (and the rest of the fork) very clean and makes them last.

Also bleed the damper every 10-12 rides.

If you do this, you should be able to go to much longer maintenance intervals.

[bagtagley]

Has "Gravel" been bitched about yet?
"If you're in sales or marketing, kill yourself."
-B. Hicks

All the griping about gravel bikes is rant-worthy. There are hundreds of miles of dirt and gravel roads within easy striking distance of my house. I have a legitimate desire to ride something that's more relaxed and can take bigger tires than a road bike, but doesn't have a sky high BB and wacky geometry of a cross bike. No doubt there's some marketing going on, but it benefits me in the end, particularly when somebody decides to sell their pimp, barely used gravel bike for pennies on the dollar.

[jackstraw]

I didn't know cross has a high BB, but that makes a lot of sense and sounds so great to me. Nothing like staying on the gas while leaning way over in a turn. Dig that feeling

[Jonny Snow]

[grskier]

Fox live suspension, coming to a $10k trail bike next year...

[skaredshtles]

Fox live suspension, coming to a $10k trail bike next year...

Shit - that trail bike will be $15k.

[smmokan]

Fox live suspension, coming to a $10k trail bike next year...

The best part... the Pinkbike review from Richard Cunningham of Fox Live was glowing. But this is from the same guy who repeatedly says that every bike on the market rides (and specifically, climbs) amazingly if you just leave the suspension open all the time. What a hack.