Bitcoin....who's gotten into it?

**ICantLogIn** · 02-06-2018, 10:36 AM

Senator says 20 Trillion by 2020, moon.

**ICantLogIn** · 02-06-2018, 10:37 AM

Warren, shes a hater. Facebook is gonna determine US policy, Ms Warren? lolz

No ETFs, and bad news for ICOs.

Giancarlos daughter is a hodler.

If people put money in their mattress how can we regulate home invasions?

Great for holders not so sure about traders. Bullish meeting.

**neckdeep** · 02-06-2018, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by stalefish3169

I'd be lying if I said I didn't want to make some money. But I'm in it just as much for the paradigm shift. As are visionaries behind the projects I've got most of my money in such as Ethereum and EOS.

Our system is broken. When a handful of people control the same amount of wealth as the rest of the country, it's a massive problem. Govenment policy and legislation aren't even remotely controlled by public opinion today, we have a system of legalized bribery. I especially hate that I'm complicit in droning the fuck out of brown people just by paying my taxes...which are of course ridiculously high relative to the capital gains crowd.

Investing with your heart instead of your head, in other words.

It's nice that you want the world to be a better place but I fail to see how cryptocurrencies are going to change human nature. Cryptos won't change a fucking thing about the injustices you list. The elite can co-opt anything, that's what makes them elite. When are you going to realize that "paradigm shift" is just a sales pitch being foisted on you? It's a fucking sales pitch targeting disillusioned people who feel left out of the equities market. Have you even questioned how this is really going to change anything? Digital money is still just money and people will continue to behave the same in relation to it. Exploitation and suffering will continue unabated. That's not the fault of money, that's simply human nature. Money doesn't accumulate with the elite because of a physical law, it happens because of the choices people make. Do you think events like Rwanda or Srebrenrica occur because of fiat money? Dude, shit like that happens because a significant portion of human beings are evil. Even the best of us are relatively selfish creatures. In 2,000 years, there's only been around 10,000 people deemed worthy of Sainthood. Get it through your naive little head- cryptos aren't going to change that!!! There is no paradigm shift occurring.

What would cryptos change for you? You'd ideally prefer to become too rich to care about your government killing those poor brown people. Sorry, the unpleasant fact is you will remain stuck in reality with the rest of us. You want to change the world, go protest. The fact is that you making easy money off of cryptos and buying a bigger house doesn't do shit to change the world. Get over yourself, already. We're not fooled by your "altruism" because you clearly still think in terms of fiat. Cryptos are just your quick and easy way to get your grubby hands on more of that dirty, evil fiat money - so go piss up a rope with your paradigm shift nonsense.

Moreover, cryptos are a favored means of exchange for some very unsavory people. The technology is being used for a variety of crimes. Hell, probably 90% of these ICOs are straight up frauds. By adopting cryptos, you merely exchange one group of scumbags for another.

**digitaldeath** · 02-06-2018, 10:46 AM

https://twitter.com/CryptoDaRock/sta...72518031519744

**mcsquared** · 02-06-2018, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by ICantLogIn

Senator says 20 Trillion by 2020, moon.

Why would this be good for bitcoin? Do you even know who that 20 Trillion is owed to?

**ICantLogIn** · 02-06-2018, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by mcsquared

Why would this be good for bitcoin? Do you even know who that 20 Trillion is owed to?

Thats market cap btw

**stalefish3169** · 02-06-2018, 03:17 PM

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**splat** · 02-06-2018, 05:41 PM

That left plenty of room to tell everyone they're fucked, but do it with respect.

Saw btc at $6000 this am and thought if it goes to 5, it'll get ugly.

**stalefish3169** · 02-06-2018, 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by neckdeep

Investing with your heart instead of your head, in other words.

It's nice that you want the world to be a better place but I fail to see how cryptocurrencies are going to change human nature. Cryptos won't change a fucking thing about the injustices you list. The elite can co-opt anything, that's what makes them elite. When are you going to realize that "paradigm shift" is just a sales pitch being foisted on you? It's a fucking sales pitch targeting disillusioned people who feel left out of the equities market. Have you even questioned how this is really going to change anything? Digital money is still just money and people will continue to behave the same in relation to it. Exploitation and suffering will continue unabated. That's not the fault of money, that's simply human nature. Money doesn't accumulate with the elite because of a physical law, it happens because of the choices people make. Do you think events like Rwanda or Srebrenrica occur because of fiat money? Dude, shit like that happens because a significant portion of human beings are evil. Even the best of us are relatively selfish creatures. In 2,000 years, there's only been around 10,000 people deemed worthy of Sainthood. Get it through your naive little head- cryptos aren't going to change that!!! There is no paradigm shift occurring.

What would cryptos change for you? You'd ideally prefer to become too rich to care about your government killing those poor brown people. Sorry, the unpleasant fact is you will remain stuck in reality with the rest of us. You want to change the world, go protest. The fact is that you making easy money off of cryptos and buying a bigger house doesn't do shit to change the world. Get over yourself, already. We're not fooled by your "altruism" because you clearly still think in terms of fiat. Cryptos are just your quick and easy way to get your grubby hands on more of that dirty, evil fiat money - so go piss up a rope with your paradigm shift nonsense.

Moreover, cryptos are a favored means of exchange for some very unsavory people. The technology is being used for a variety of crimes. Hell, probably 90% of these ICOs are straight up frauds. By adopting cryptos, you merely exchange one group of scumbags for another.

You've got a bad attitude mang. I'm optimistic for projects like this. We'll find out what happens when it launches this summer, and in 10 years I guess.

**splat** · 02-07-2018, 10:40 AM

BTC up $2K in 24 hrs to 8K. That dip to 6 was the bottom?

**summit** · 02-07-2018, 10:51 AM

Until you can cogently explain why it went down, then up, then down, now up etc for reasons beyond sentiment and speculation... no you cannot possibly speculate on what the bottom is... you can at best speculate on what other people think the bottom is and try to outplay them... poker face!

**Bromontana** · 02-08-2018, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by splat

BTC up $2K in 24 hrs to 8K. That dip to 6 was the bottom?

Im in it from 6600 but plan to sell at 10k or 9500. It's possible this is the low but I'm skeptical. Open mind going fwd as always though. React to what it tells you.

To see a true recovery I want to see a short squeeze (accelerated buying) followed by lower highs of no more than 62% retracement. Basically, a normal trend for btc.

**4matic** · 02-08-2018, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by Summit

Until you can cogently explain why it went down, then up, then down, now up etc for reasons beyond sentiment and speculation... no you cannot possibly speculate on what the bottom is... you can at best speculate on what other people think the bottom is and try to outplay them... poker face!

It's the Elliot Wave man. The golden mean ratio found throughout nature. It's a symbiotic relationship.

**ICantLogIn** · 02-08-2018, 09:31 AM

Blocks and Transactions by geo live.

**ICantLogIn** · 02-08-2018, 01:37 PM

Where has our volume gone.

**ICantLogIn** · 02-08-2018, 02:47 PM

$8475 huge hidden buy wall not letting BTC drop. Wow gone

**stalefish3169** · 02-08-2018, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by ICantLogIn

Where has our volume gone.

Maybe lower because Binance has been/is down.

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**Bromontana** · 02-08-2018, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by ICantLogIn

Where has our volume gone.

It keeps returning on selloffs so I'm taking the hint that it's distributing now.

**whitekingsalmon** · 02-09-2018, 09:54 AM

Go eth go go rah rah

**splat** · 02-09-2018, 10:28 AM

NYT had a little piece on bitcoin today....

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/08/o...pgtype=article

**ICantLogIn** · 02-09-2018, 10:50 AM

Holding 1.7 NEO on Binance got me 0.00889230 of NeoGas (GAS). NEO is my long term hold, I guess if you use a NEO wallet you can get GAS daily. On Binance you get monthly.