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    Read the studies to find out.

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    The sample size of the 2009 article is extremely small and the researchers question the population characteristics of the small group.

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    It weird how 8 years and more data can skew results of studies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn View Post
    It weird how 8 years and more data can skew results of studies.
    Heh.

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    I just eat Tide Pods. Been working out so far.

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    The problem with relying on an old study is that backcountry usage and waste disposal practices can change over time. It would be nice to see the study repeated periodically. Seems like a great summer job--backpacking around the Sierra sampling water. Pack would start to get heavy after a while though. (I ran into a young couple one time who were spending the summer counting frogs in the Sierra.)

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    Please get a flu vaccine

    Interesting article in NYT, echoes a lot of what was said here: Why It’s Still Worth Getting a Flu Shot https://nyti.ms/2EuFUq8


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    When you see something that is not right, not just, not fair, you have a moral obligation to say something. To do something." Rep. John Lewis


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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeJ View Post
    That's what Tide Pods are for, apparently.
    and apparently it's a liberal conspiracy. Oh snap!

    Tomi Lahren Blames Liberals For Tide Pod Challenge In Wacko Rant

    “The left, which dictates popular culture, brainwashes young people into believing they live in a world where 64 gender options are up for selection, everything is free, Beyonce is a God queen, and eating detergent is funny.”
    When you see something that is not right, not just, not fair, you have a moral obligation to say something. To do something." Rep. John Lewis


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    Prime example of sick people who won't stay home when they're sick. Really? There's no one else to sing?



    Pink's Super Bowl National Anthem Reportedly Jeopardized by Flu

    Pink has reportedly been suffering from the flu, and it has affected her rehearsals as she prepares to sing the national anthem before Super Bowl 52 on Sunday.

    Citing sources, TMZ Sports reported Saturday that Pink "had a really tough time making it through her rehearsal Thursday night."

    TMZ added the rehearsal "didn't go smoothly" and "everyone involved didn't feel good when it was over."

    In an Instagram post Saturday, Pink wrote she is "trying to practice the flu away" and concluded the note with the hashtag "#ificansingimgonnakillit."

    Pink isn't the only one involved with Sunday's title tilt who has been nursing flu-like symptoms.

    According to NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver Nelson Agholor received an IV Saturday morning after he told the team's training staff he was "feeling sick and weak."

    Eagles defensive tackle Timmy Jernigan, linebacker Mychal Kendricks and cornerback Ronald Darby were also feeling ill earlier in the week, per ESPN.com's Tim McManus.

    Super Bowl 52 at U.S. Bank Stadium in Minneapolis is scheduled to get underway at 6:30 p.m. ET.
    When you see something that is not right, not just, not fair, you have a moral obligation to say something. To do something." Rep. John Lewis


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    Quote Originally Posted by KQ View Post
    and apparently it's a liberal conspiracy. Oh snap!

    “The left, which dictates popular culture, brainwashes young people into believing they live in a world where 64 gender options are up for selection, everything is free, Beyonce is a God queen, and eating detergent is funny.”
    For the love of God, please never quote or even mention that stupid bitch again. It's what she craves.

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    "trying to practice the flu away"


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    Guys, it’s ok, Jeebus has got this!

    Gloria Copeland, a televangelist serving on Trump’s evangelical advisory board, has delivered a helpful message to those concerned by alarming reports that we are experiencing the worst flu season in nearly a decade. That message is: actually, there is no flu season, because Jesus went ahead and took care of that.

    “Well, listen partners, we don’t have a flu season,” Copeland drawled in a video posted to the Kenneth Copeland Ministries Facebook page last week. “We’ve got a duck season, a deer season, but we don’t have a flu season. And don’t receive it when somebody threatens you with ‘Everybody’s getting the flu!’ We’ve already had our shot, he bore our sicknesses and carried our diseases.”

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    Darwin at work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    Darwin at work.
    That put an interesting thought in my mind: was (or is) there ever a time when religion actually promoted survival or species development? I don't know. I guess maybe kosher laws. OTOH, Christian Science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper View Post
    That put an interesting thought in my mind: was (or is) there ever a time when religion actually promoted survival or species development? I don't know. I guess maybe kosher laws. OTOH, Christian Science.
    I think in its infancy, it might have assisted with the transfer of useful knowledge about history or other natural phenomena that promoted survival. But it was soon co-opted by those seeking power, and is a holdover. Like fairytales told told to children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSilverSurfer View Post
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0519172045.htm

    Children that receive flu vaccine are three times as likely to be hospitalized for the flu than children that don't.
    Yeah, that study actually doesn't show what you probably hope it does, due to it being retrospective. The kids in the study may have already been five times as likely to be hospitalized (for example), so if the resulting rate was only three times as high then the vaccine protected them.

    https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/doe...pitalizations/

    “While these findings do raise questions about the efficacy of the vaccine, they do not in fact implicate it as a cause of hospitalizations. More studies are needed to assess not only the immunogenicity, but also the efficacy of different influenza vaccines in asthmatic subjects.”

    That may seem like a curious conclusion given the results of this study, but it is accurate. The key to understanding the implications of this study is that it is retrospective. That means it looks at children who have the flu and then looks back to see who was vaccinated and who wasn’t. This in turn means that children were not randomized to either be vaccinated or not, and this opens the door to any number of variables that cannot be controlled for in the study.

    I've seen you trying to fight this fight for years, and it's always been completely idiotic.
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    What's idiotic is trusting that big pharma and the government will always do what's right.

    As I posted earlier the CDC acknowledge that the only reason flu shot recommended for all is because it was easier than only recommending for at risk groups.

    We don't know what's causing the high rates of cancer and autism.

    I see no reason not to try and live as naturally as possible in order to avoid possible causes.

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    Infectious disease is natural.
    In with the 9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSilverSurfer View Post
    We don't know what's causing the high rates of cancer and autism.

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    Ugh I have that guy on ignore... but you all are quoting him.

    The biggest reason for cancer as a more common cause of death is that we've come up with prevention, treatments, or cures for the things that used to kill us before cancer had much of a chance.

    The biggest reasons for increasing autism diagnosis is the expansive change in definition (more people count as autistic) and better detection (the autistics were always here, we just called them derogatory names instead diagnosing them on the spectrum).

    But noooooooooooo it's a conspiracy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSilverSurfer View Post
    What's idiotic is trusting that big pharma and the government will always do what's right.

    As I posted earlier the CDC acknowledge that the only reason flu shot recommended for all is because it was easier than only recommending for at risk groups.

    We don't know what's causing the high rates of cancer and autism.

    I see no reason not to try and live as naturally as possible in order to avoid possible causes.
    So, this is completely idiotic. Completely.

    You're a total fucking moron to suggest (again) that autism and cancer have something to do with vaccines. Just a fucking moron.

    This has nothing to do with trusting big pharma or the government--it's called science, you complete idiot. This is very similar to people who think global warming is a liberal conspiracy--it's counterfactual, and you have to be either incredibly stupid or uneducated (or both) to give any credence whatsoever to these 'theories.'

    Oh yeah, and 'living naturally to avoid causes,' what does that even mean? That's just a meaningless string of words that vaguely implies if you avoid medicine/vaccines/science you will avoid disease. Absurd. So stupid it's hard to imagine how such an idea got into your head.

    No offense, but you posted complete garbage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dexter Rutecki View Post
    So, this is completely idiotic. Completely.

    You're a total fucking moron to suggest (again) that autism and cancer have something to do with vaccines. Just a fucking moron.

    This has nothing to do with trusting big pharma or the government--it's called science, you complete idiot. This is very similar to people who think global warming is a liberal conspiracy--it's counterfactual, and you have to be either incredibly stupid or uneducated (or both) to give any credence whatsoever to these 'theories.'
    Dude, DBS/SS is too dumb or ignorant to understand this. He wants to believe, just like a Jesus freak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    The biggest reason for cancer as a more common cause of death is that we've come up with prevention, treatments, or cures for the things that used to kill us before cancer had much of a chance.

    The biggest reasons for increasing autism diagnosis is the expansive change in definition (more people count as autistic) and better detection (the autistics were always here, we just called them derogatory names instead diagnosing them on the spectrum).
    Agreed on both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Agreed on both.
    Agree to an extent. Some people labelled as being 'on the spectrum' are just weird, a variant of 'normal' if you will. No need for a 'diagnosis'.

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