OFFICIAL I70 BITCH THREAD....

[Danno]

Crazy busy up at AB yesterday... Obviously, the first bluebird day after a week straight of snow, and AB being the only show in town and all, the masses would not be turned away... They should set up border patrol in Limon... CO is officially full.

[The SnowShow] What do you mean? Those slopes look empty! [/The SnowShow]

(just good natured ribbing, not trying to start an e-pile-on)

[The SnowShow]

[The SnowShow] What do you mean? Those slopes look empty! [/The SnowShow]

(just good natured ribbing, not trying to start an e-pile-on)

[emoji106]

[Lindahl]

Crazy busy up at AB yesterday... Obviously, the first bluebird day after a week straight of snow, and AB being the only show in town and all, the masses would not be turned away... They should set up border patrol in Limon... CO is officially full.

Looks like last weekend. I need to find a different pass for next year.

[The SnowShow]

At least I70 hasn't gotten this bad. I don't know how people in LA can deal with this shit:

[galibier_numero_un]

Looks like last weekend. I need to find a different pass for next year.

Definitely worth a separate thread before renewal season.

It seems as if our pass buying decisions are as much influenced by our friends' choices as what makes sense to us.

Me? I don't have that problem 'coz I have no friends ;-)

All this talk about Loveland (for example) gives rise to my thinking about it next year. Still, the Basin feels like home, and for $199 weekday pass, it seems like a no-brainer (maybe combined with a couple of Loveland 4-packs).



... Thom

[Danno]

Loveland four packs are a great deal. No risk, you just need to take stock in March and sell what you don't need.

[The SnowShow]

Loveland four packs are a great deal. No risk, you just need to take stock in March and sell what you don't need.

Wrong thread

This is for bitching about all the construction that's about to start. Why can't CDOT build a road that will withstand a season at 11,000'?!

[hatchgreenchile]

I think this thread repeats itself every 4 months or so.

[summit]

Two interesting reads:

Just a few (5%) self driving cars can change traffic patterns for the better ending stop-and-go
https://phys.org/news/2017-05-self-d...s-traffic.html

Self-driving EV cars would totally disrupt the auto industry, oil industry, and more within 10 years of being allowed, no car dealers, and almost total value loss of used cars and near end of individual ownership:
https://techxplore.com/news/2017-05-...ransition.html

[The SnowShow]

Two interesting reads:

Just a few (5%) self driving cars can change traffic patterns for the better ending stop-and-go
https://phys.org/news/2017-05-self-d...s-traffic.html

Self-driving EV cars would totally disrupt the auto industry, oil industry, and more within 10 years of being allowed, no car dealers, and almost total value loss of used cars and near end of individual ownership:
https://techxplore.com/news/2017-05-...ransition.html

Very interesting. I'd love to get rid of phantom traffic jams [emoji106]

I hope even half of this comes true by 2030.

[skaredshtles]

Two interesting reads:

Just a few (5%) self driving cars can change traffic patterns for the better ending stop-and-go
https://phys.org/news/2017-05-self-d...s-traffic.html

Self-driving EV cars would totally disrupt the auto industry, oil industry, and more within 10 years of being allowed, no car dealers, and almost total value loss of used cars and near end of individual ownership:
https://techxplore.com/news/2017-05-...ransition.html

It can't happen SOON enough. BRING ON THE ROBOTS!!

I did find this interesting in their research: "Under normal circumstances, human drivers naturally create stop-and-go traffic, even in the absence of bottlenecks, lane changes, merges or other disruptions"

People simply SUCK at driving. That's all there is to it.

[The SnowShow]

It can't happen SOON enough. BRING ON THE ROBOTS!!

I did find this interesting in their research: "Under normal circumstances, human drivers naturally create stop-and-go traffic, even in the absence of bottlenecks, lane changes, merges or other disruptions"

People simply SUCK at driving. That's all there is to it.

Yep. Like Montanaskier says: you take an easy test at 16, get a license and never have to again. Huuuuge mistake. It should be like every 20 years until 60, then every 10 or 5.
The suckage has gotten even worse now that everyone can't keep the phones down.

[Danno]

Yep. Like Montanaskier says: you take an easy test at 16, get a license and never have to again. Huuuuge mistake. It should be like every 20 years until 60, then every 10 or 5.
The suckage has gotten even worse now that everyone can't keep the phones down.

The problem isn't just that. It's also that we're taught the laws of the road, and the test insures we know them and that we know how to appropriately handle the car. But we are not taught how to drive, if that makes sense.

[Name Redacted]

I'm all on board with self driving car tech. Can't wait till I can sit in the back seat with a full bar, hookers, and blow while I am magically transported wherever I want to be.

[summit]

Adverse weather is going to be a wildcard to making that work... or we'll just see even more highway closures whenever the computers have trouble seeing

4x4 vehicles will probably still be desirable... autodrive cars aren't going to take you up a forest service road.

[capulin overdrive]

Few years ago I came up in mid Jan., and Limon had more snow than the mountains!

[adrenalated]

The problem isn't just that. It's also that we're taught the laws of the road, and the test insures we know them and that we know how to appropriately handle the car. But we are not taught how to drive, if that makes sense.

This. Driving is easy, until it isn't.

I would bet that 99% of people have no idea how to recover their vehicle from a skid. And even less can do it instinctively.

[Elkhound Odin]

I'm disappointed to see so many people willing to hand their freedom and liberty over to robots that will ultimately be controlled by incompetent bureaucrats. More sheepeople in the making. Sad and dumb at the same time. Glad I'm old and will be dead before full implementation

[muted]

I'm disappointed to see so many people willing to hand their freedom and liberty over to robots that will ultimately be controlled by incompetent bureaucrats.

I thought I was just handing over the keys to be free to do whatever I want for the ride, just like taking a bus or a train.

[summit]

I'm disappointed to see so many people willing to hand their freedom and liberty over to robots that will ultimately be controlled by incompetent bureaucrats. More sheepeople in the making. Sad and dumb at the same time. Glad I'm old and will be dead before full implementation

Nobody is talking about handing their driving over for nothing.
In return you save time, money and are safer.

The computers will be better than all but a tiny handful of drivers on an individual basis, and much better when considering traffic and emergencies. The computer can be more situationally aware and literally read the other cars' minds.

All autodrive cars can go faster and traffic is vastly reduced so that is an actual time savings. You could get work done so that is a productivity advantage. You will save money too.

So how much freedom and liberty would you really trade? For more money you could get your own robot car so you would never wait and can leave stuff in it, and you can probably get a model with a manual 4x4 mode so you can get on the trails when the pavement ends.

[Name Redacted]

I'm disappointed to see so many people willing to hand their freedom and liberty over to robots that will ultimately be controlled by incompetent bureaucrats. More sheepeople in the making. Sad and dumb at the same time. Glad I'm old and will be dead before full implementation

Dude, did you miss the part about the hookers and blow?

[Micol]

The computers will be better than all but a tiny handful of drivers on an individual basis

i am one of that handful

i will remain on "mike pilot" unless the inflight movies are really good

[skaredshtles]

i am one of that handful

i will remain on "mike pilot" unless the inflight movies are really good

Inflight movies will be literally ANY movie you want to watch.

Hell - there won't be any reason for windows in most of the vehicles. Maybe side windows for ambient light and to have something to look at when you aren't playing games on your phone.

Seats will all face inward - there will be no reason to have "front-facing" seats.

Old people will become MORE free. Handicapped people will become more free.

I'd wager that the net "freedom" will be greater for society as a whole.

BRING 'EM ON.

[skaredshtles]

And if you *really* want to drive - you go to the track and rent an actual "fun-to-drive" car and have a hoot.

With all the $$ and time you save track days will be reasonable for most people that want to drive for fun.

[Danno]

I for one welcome our self driving car overlords!

Though I highly doubt that techxplore article's timeline.