Intuition liners

[harpo-the-skier]

Cosmo has had a rough couple of years, including a divorce and a bankruptcy. He has missed one of my appointments too. He is working out of his house now. He is a really good boot fitter.

[old goat]

Cosmo has had a rough couple of years, including a divorce and a bankruptcy. He has missed one of my appointments too. He is working out of his house now. He is a really good boot fitter.

sorry to hear that. of course being great at what you do but a lousy businessman is an old story around here, and it's got to be tough making a living doing just boots and working on golf clubs in the summer. He did good work for me.

[hoarhey]

He did solid work for me out of his house at the end of August. Punches on two boots, mercuries and TLT6's, as well as footbeds and liner thermofitting

[hoarhey]

No intuition liner work though

[harpo-the-skier]

Cosmo just did his last work for us. I rescind my recommendation.

[tharmor]

I have a pair of the Intuition Pro Tour liners which came with my Dalbello Virus boots. They are brand new and have never been molded. They are also the lace up models. Size is 27.0/27.5. I'm asking $100 + shipping. Located in Salt Lake City.

[Timberridge]

Perhaps it's been discussed but I'm too lazy to search 22 pages...

Has anyone heated the intutions by putting something like foodsaver bags into the liner and pouring 200F water into them? How's this work vs the rice-in-a-sock method?

[XXX-er]

yeah I have heard of the turkey baster roasting bags cuz they will obviously take the the heat

duno how it turns out but i think water would be a > conductor of heat than rice

the last few times I go to the intuition out let when I am in Vancover ...get the best

[Timberridge]

^^I'm gonna pick some up and try it...sous vide the liners

[billyk]

Considering that you'll do the molding by sticking your feet in the boots, I'd be careful about getting them too hot. 200 seems a little high to me.

After doing some research, well what do I know? Apparently nothing. Had no idea, obviously.

[mufasa5446]

^^I'm gonna pick some up and try it...sous vide the liners

Let us know how it goes

[Timberridge]

Happy to report this went really well, I can recommend it...liner was not too hot--in fact you will want to leave the water in there for 5 mins to get it to fully heat up. This won't likely work with the really dense liners like the PW Plug etc, which should prolly be baked in a oven.
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I picked up a package of Reynolds Oven Bags at the local grocery store. For $4 you get 2 turkey size bags.



Put some water on the stove, heat to rolling boil, pull the liner, jam the bag all the way to the toe box--there was about 3" left around at the top of the liner (I'm a 27.5) which I folded over the side.

I tried this two ways:

1. Liner on foot first, then into boot. For this I warmed the empty shell in a oven ~150F. Pour water into liner and wait 5 mins. Dump out water from liner, then pull the turkey bag from the boot. Foot+liner into boot, buckle lightly, flex, toes on a 2x4 and hang out for a while.

2. Liner in boot, inserted foot. Same as above but I did not warm the boot up, instead just poured water into the liner.

Happy to report both methods worked great.

The only hitch I can see is:
1. If you have a tongue liner the bag will try to squeeze out between tongue and the side of the liner. You way want to use the sock that Intuition includes in the fit kit to keep things together, or just use method 2.

2. If you have a big boot (29-30 ?) the turkey bag may be too short.

[Andeh]

That sounds pretty easy. How well did it work forming the outside of the liner to the shell?

I have a pair of Dreamliners that were baked at a shop using a blower-style which did ok for the inside, but the outside of the calf isn't very well formed to fit the shell.

I'd imagine using the laces for this process in a tongue liner is probably a good idea, even if you don't plan to ultimately.

[Timberridge]

That sounds pretty easy. How well did it work forming the outside of the liner to the shell?

I doesn't heat up the outside of the liners like an oven does. So more blower-esque. These were stock Dalbello liners in a Lupo so fit was pretty good already. I know what you are talking about though as the generic Intuitions like Dreamliner and P-wrap tend to be shaped more like a plaster cast.

[2FUNKY]

^interesting man. Way to guinea pig it.

[Soups]

Just tried the oven bag and water method on some new Seth Full Tilts. Worked awesome. No brainer way to do it.

[XXX-er]

Thats cool! I remember reading about the "Turkey baster method" but no feedback on how well it worked

[2FUNKY]

Just tried the oven bag and water method on some new Seth Full Tilts. Worked awesome. No brainer way to do it.

May have to try it when my pro tongues get here.

[nyskirat]

Question for everyone, how long do Intuition liners "last"?

[XXX-er]

It depends on the skier and how much they ski

I got 3 yrs/200 days on this set, they were tight after moving them from a Mercury to a Vulcan so on the way home in Japanuary I went to get another pair at the Intuition headquarters in Vangroovy

buddy just did a remold with the buckles cranked down and said come back in a couple of years

One thing you should not expect is to take up room in a shell that is too big or the rong shape for your foot to begin with

[nyskirat]

I'm nearing 4 years ~250 days on mine, wondering if its time to remold them or get a new pair.

[XXX-er]

duno about that ^^ my intuitions were tight in the merc's and even tighter in the Vulcans (sposed to be the same boot but?)

I bought the regular volume Pw's and buddy said I should probably go low volume next time

[LeeLau]

Question for everyone, how long do Intuition liners "last"?

I just moved a pair of medium vol Protours with 100days on to a low volume boot (Arcteryx) and binned the OE liner from the Arc boot. Warmer and stiffer than the OE liner. Bet its got another 100 days

[LeeLau]

Btw the new Vancouver Intuition digs are nice. Thomas James the bootfitter has a huge shop there going all out

[XXX-er]

In the past I have journeyed long and hard to reach this mecca of ultralon foam, I recognize Crystal and her little dog