Lucky #7 EC Roll Call 2013-14!

[cat in january]

east or bust have you tried a round of Ibuprofen? 200 mg at each meal for a week. See if that makes a difference.

On a different note (ignoring the upcoming unpleasantness) has anyone got a sense of the weather going forward? Storm maybe on Monday and I found this interesting from accuweather:

While the first week of December brought some reprieve to the region, surges of cold air will bleed eastward through the remainder of the month, according to AccuWeather.com Lead Long-Range Forecaster Paul Pastelok.
Similar to November, the last few weeks of fall will feel like the winter season.
"December looks colder than originally thought in the Northeast," he said.

Wonder what Tim Kelley will think?

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[strawjack]

Wow, thank you all for the community response. Very helpful information. Regardless of what this doctor has to say about the mri I definitely want another look from someone.

Interesting stuff about the possible correlation to meniscus damage and cysts Dave, if you hadn't said anything I would have never even thought about it. Will definitely bring that up when I go in.

The current state of the knee is puzzling to me. It first began to get noticeably painful (mostly dull pain, sometimes sharp) over the summer. Before then it was only slightly discomforting for at most a month and half, and I stopped skiing the first week in April. It has never physically limited me and that's why I waited so long for the mri (stupid on my part). It has never actually bothered me while doing anything physically actually, hockey, biking, hiking, short distance runs; sometimes a bit of pain a day or two after. The worst is extended periods of sitting, then it will hurt afterwards (full extension and full crouch). Also still haven't been on skis yet this season, so I don't know how it will feel on the slopes.

I really have no clue, but enough, I don't want to cunt this thread up with too much injury talk. I have some reading to do in the gimp section.

Are you at UVM? If so, then you are young and anything I say with not pertain to you.

I had sharp left knee pain this AM laying in bed for a solid 5 minutes. What caused it...I'm guessing my arthritis. I had my right knee scoped a couple years ago for meniscus tear, which was my first and only knee procedure. My doc took many photos while prodding around which showed different levels of arthritis all around my knee. I was psyched to hear that

I think that the bottom line is like what everyone has said...smooth, smooth, smooth is the only way to avoid pain, but in the end I think skiers are screwed in general. I did jump a lot when I was younger and landed hard several times, but not nearly as hard as some of my kook friends. I can't imagine what there knees are like now. And this was out west where it was significantly softer and steeper landings typically. These park kids are gonna be screwed.

So, if you're over 40 or maybe even younger I'm guessing that most knee pain is arthritis related.

I'm not a doctor, but I did just drink a Heady Topper.

[Vt-Freeheel]

Nice Alpine Zone style skiing at Okemo today. Always impressed by the quality of snow and grooming early season.

No pics of sweet carves but instead a question. WHAT THE FUCK IS THE DEAL WITH THE STUPID MAGIC CARPET LIKE AUTOMATED LOADING AND UNLOADING ZONES? Might the dumbest, least sensible "advance" in the history of skiing. I fucking hate them.

There, I feel better now.

Enough of the shouting, kook!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [incertwhinkee]

On/off load ramps allow a higher rope speed for a semi HSQ.

[Bottleman]

Enough of the shouting, kook!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [incertwhinkee]

On/off load ramps allow a higher rope speed for a semi HSQ.

But Good Christ they are non-intuitive. Scariest moment of the day was getting off of one this AM.

[lynchdogger]

anyone want to go check out left gully early AM wed/thu/fri or next weekend weather permitting? looks like a few inches of precip tonight into tomorrow with some wind that might be mellow enough to fill stuff in rather than blow it right off the mountain. might be some sliding to be had? or it might end up just being good exercise carrying skis up and down the hill? either way i will probably be headed up if anyone is interested.

Bring your ice skates or ice climbing gear. Mix, then rain, then freeze up. Good for the up but no bueno for the down.

http://www.mountwashington.org/weath...t_forecast.php

Great base forming stuff but lets get some snow please!

This thread sounds like a support group of injured athletes for cripes sakes. You old ladies wanna pull up your rockers, heady toppers, bongs and knitting too and have a good old stich and bitch?

[t-the-east]

Wow, reading all this knee crap has me thinking I've been ignoring something for at least a year or two. So.... "Man up and walk it off" is not the best policy?

[Bottleman]

Wow, reading all this knee crap has me thinking I've been ignoring something for at least a year or two. So.... "Man up and walk it off" is not the best policy?

That's fine. Just steer clear of the fucking magic carpets

[robrox]

...
I'm not a doctor, but I did just drink a Heady Topper.

Priceless!

....
This thread sounds like a support group of injured athletes for cripes sakes. You old ladies wanna pull up your rockers, heady toppers, bongs and knitting too and have a good old stich and bitch?

ROTGLMAO!

[retirwntm]

ROTGLMAO!

Make sure you use proper form and don't put too much stress on your knees. You're an old man.

[robrox]

Wow, reading all this knee crap has me thinking I've been ignoring something for at least a year or two. So.... "Man up and walk it off" is not the best policy?

Maybe it is a good policy, but it's hard to be sure...even with a good diagnosis.

Easy things:
-Never let your shoe heels wear down to a noticable uneveness, replace worn heels early
-Don't ski in the back seat
-Work on core strength AND flexibility

NSAIDs: They have a price, if you need them, things are not good.

Edit: Avoid reading gut-bustingly funny posts from mtnwriter while you a drinking any beverage!

[the Cock]

On a different note (ignoring the upcoming unpleasantness) has anyone got a sense of the weather going forward?

DRY when COLD!!!

WARM while WET!!!

[Vt-Freeheel]

But Good Christ they are non-intuitive. Scariest moment of the day was getting off of one this AM.

Pole faster

This thread sounds like a support group of injured athletes for cripes sakes. You old ladies wanna pull up your rockers, heady toppers, bongs and knitting too and have a good old stich and bitch?

Hear Ye Hear Ye, POTD right there.

Approx 1.35 million vert last year meant some pain was felt.

On the topic of Heady.

[drewvw]

All the knee talk is interesting....at 36 I'm def in preservation mode. One thing that I haven't seen mentioned yet that makes a huge difference for me is body weight. I can fluctuate 10-15 lbs and I notice it big time when on the higher end.

That's said, if I had any heady toppers here I would drink 3 in a row while eating a bacon sandwich. God bless America.

[east or bust]

Are you at UVM? If so, then you are young and anything I say with not pertain to you.

I had sharp left knee pain this AM laying in bed for a solid 5 minutes. What caused it...I'm guessing my arthritis. I had my right knee scoped a couple years ago for meniscus tear, which was my first and only knee procedure. My doc took many photos while prodding around which showed different levels of arthritis all around my knee. I was psyched to hear that

I think that the bottom line is like what everyone has said...smooth, smooth, smooth is the only way to avoid pain, but in the end I think skiers are screwed in general. I did jump a lot when I was younger and landed hard several times, but not nearly as hard as some of my kook friends. I can't imagine what there knees are like now. And this was out west where it was significantly softer and steeper landings typically. These park kids are gonna be screwed.

So, if you're over 40 or maybe even younger I'm guessing that most knee pain is arthritis related.

I'm not a doctor, but I did just drink a Heady Topper.

20y.o

Not a park rat here, but I do like air time. Transitions are the only way to go.

[Bottleman]

Pole faster

I laffed.

[t-the-east]

All the knee talk is interesting....at 36 I'm def in preservation mode. One thing that I haven't seen mentioned yet that makes a huge difference for me is body weight. I can fluctuate 10-15 lbs and I notice it big time when on the higher end.

That's said, if I had any heady toppers here I would drink 3 in a row while eating a bacon sandwich. God bless America.

Same age and I've definetly noticed that too. Crazy how the knees can pick up subtle things like a small beer gut or a heavy pack and make you pay for it. But the bacon sandwich, bong hits, heady topper bitch stitch sounds like a hell of a lot of fun to me...

[Flounder]

All this knee talk is making me feel old. Trails conditions tonight were loose and frozen granular. Biking is good for the knees.

[neufox47]

DRY when COLD!!!

WARM while WET!!!

That's the bitch of it.

Mid-end of November was such a tease. Warm for the next two events (N VT may escape most of the warmth for the second one?) then jack shit for a while. Maybe something on the 17th? But I just look at the lines and colors on the models while I scratch my head.

[icelanticskier]

it ain't winter yet, rob. how often is it REALLY good and consistently cold snowy in the fall? December of 2000 comes to mind. think that was the year anyway.

rog

[the Cock]

it ain't winter yet, rob. how often is it REALLY good and consistently cold snowy BEFORE FEBRUARY? December of 2000 comes to mind. think that was the year anyway.

rog

FIFY Rog

December 2000 was the year and continued right through March and into April. Was jumping off old abandoned cars in the woods of Podunk hills.

Most years December is a crap shoot with an obligitary January thaw then maybe the spigot opens feb-mar.

[ex-powderbroker]

Glad to see some people wanted the board today. Strawjack, I was only looking to save this piece of history from the trash, and it sounds like Magic is going to be the best place for the most people to enjoy it. DoWork, I'll get it to you soon. Please save me first tracks on Red and/or Black. Thanks in advance!

Best December (only) I think was 2008 just for the most incredible refresh clipper action I've ever seen.

edit to add, I thought 2008 was pretty close to 2000. Looks like for one stretch they were identical. Those dumps in 2001 late season were unreal though.

[icelanticskier]

ok COCK, February, i'll give you that one!

rog

[Vt-Freeheel]

03 was one of the bestest Decembers at the Glen, no crowds, tons-o-snow and a few wet events to help with base layers. Of course it rained foe X-Mas but what else is new.



95/6 was the best ever for late season turns. We had a Memorial day cookout top-o-north and Black Diamond /FIS were top 2 bottom and I skied to my rig parked at the bottom of Exterminator. It was also the year I cracked my head on a branch skiing post season woods at Smuggs and lost a chunk of scalp leading to the purchase of a helmet the following season. BigDaddy says "get a lid".
I wish we could get a long spring again.




36.1` bob up 6 overnight, get some spring skiing in.

[icelanticskier]

ah yes, 95/96 and 2000/2001, the two seasons I was in Utah

people are still thanking me.

although I did come back early in 96 and april in 01' to score the goods here. fkna.

finished up phase 5 in the woods this am. this new trail is really gonna tie some beauties together.

off in 15 to go ride the new trails on the way to work

inches and inches for George. 3.8" this week with up to 4 more expected through tomorrow night.

hmmmm..........can we get a bunch of wind from the wnw please? like 55-75 sustained?

rog

[JerseyDave]

Wow, thank you all for the community response. Very helpful information. Regardless of what this doctor has to say about the mri I definitely want another look from someone.

Interesting stuff about the possible correlation to meniscus damage and cysts Dave, if you hadn't said anything I would have never even thought about it. Will definitely bring that up when I go in.

The current state of the knee is puzzling to me. It first began to get noticeably painful (mostly dull pain, sometimes sharp) over the summer. Before then it was only slightly discomforting for at most a month and half, and I stopped skiing the first week in April. It has never physically limited me and that's why I waited so long for the mri (stupid on my part). It has never actually bothered me while doing anything physically actually, hockey, biking, hiking, short distance runs; sometimes a bit of pain a day or two after. The worst is extended periods of sitting, then it will hurt afterwards (full extension and full crouch). Also still haven't been on skis yet this season, so I don't know how it will feel on the slopes.

I really have no clue, but enough, I don't want to cunt this thread up with too much injury talk. I have some reading to do in the gimp section.

Pretty straight forward situation. Something is torn in there. The fragments are getting chewed up during exercise then you are getting swelling after. knee stiffens up as you sit and swells. Ice and Compression (compression is overlooked by alotof people butI think is better for pushing swelling out ofa joint) and rest. Scope the bitch. I was done with resorts after my initial injury in 04. Thought the acl was gone, actually 1/2 tear. I've been aware of the time bomb in the right leg ever since. As far as resorts, can't hardly handle on lap on man made snow without feeling it immediately, but can do 6000 vert day in bc with regularity. Knee injury drove me away from the resorts. Come to find out, that was the best thing I could have done for my ski experiences. Best news from my scope...0 arthritis! Pedal. Pedal. Pedal. Ski.
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